RE: Fakes and Liars on CM

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pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:24:59 PM)
The operative phrase in your message (for me) is "I took some time to get to know them" which is essentially my argument here in this thread. But how do we "get to know" somebody who is consciously manipulating someone to believe whatever they think a CM member wants? And when you discover that you are being manipulated by a dishonest person, then why not share that info? quote: ORIGINAL: searching4mysir quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy OK--fine...let's use your formulation. Any ideas you care to share? How do you determine who is genuine and worth your time? When I was actually searching for a Master I took some time to get to know them, spoke on the phone, and arranged to meet them in person for a cup of coffee in a vanilla public place. If they had no intentions of meeting for anything more than coffee or a single drink, then they weren't genuine *to me*. I don't play causally so the idea of playing on a first meet was out of the question. If they were asshats or douchebags, I hid, block, deleted. Those buttons actually work, ya know.

DrkJourney -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:25:07 PM)
I know what you mean. If he had bothered to actually read and respond I would've told him of a like site as he proposes, but I wasn't "fabulous" enough....lol Well while those six people have this site and bond, I guess the rest of us fakes and phonies can continue life as usual on another site..lol

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:26:01 PM)
Have you read collarmes information about common scams?

stef -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:26:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Delilya Dude, you're in Palm Springs. I can't believe you are unable to find someone local. I guess his dueling "I'm smarter than everyone else" and "I'M A VICTIM" personalities have scared all the local fish out of that pond.

searching4mysir -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:26:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy The operative phrase in your message (for me) is "I took some time to get to know them" which is essentially my argument here in this thread. But how do we "get to know" somebody who is consciously manipulating someone to believe whatever they think a CM member wants? And when you discover that you are being manipulated by a dishonest person, then why not share that info? Because I'm not Jesus Christ and it isn't my job to save anyone else.

pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:27:49 PM)
Of course I find local guys --- despite the delusional comments of a previous requester. But many guys are not into BDSM or Master/slave as an ongoing relationship. They see it as recreational NSA sex so that is why I presume ALL of us are on CM i.e. we are looking for someone who enjoys this lifestyle? quote: ORIGINAL: Delilya quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy Well, perhaps most of the people you contact are located near you? Most of the time, the persons I chat with are living in another state (or country!). Often, they want me to host them on their first visit....which I am often reluctant to do, unless I know they are genuine. OK---go ahead -- make some nasty personal comment about me now---so you can assert your moral and intellectual superiority. Dude, you're in Palm Springs. I can't believe you are unable to find someone local.

pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:29:07 PM)
Is your question directed to me? If so, yes, I have read a portion of it. quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain Have you read collarmes information about common scams?

searching4mysir -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:29:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy Of course I find local guys --- despite the delusional comments of a previous requester. But many guys are not into BDSM or Master/slave as an ongoing relationship. They see it as recreational NSA sex so that is why I presume ALL of us are on CM i.e. we are looking for someone who enjoys this lifestyle? You would presume wrong. And you would be an idiot to presume anything about ALL people in any group.

Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:29:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonlightmaddnes Well I am a very real person but I would not send my picture or personal information to anyone online. and right after I posted this I answered a text from one of my very best friends I met online a few years ago. Soo Ok I will revise. I am super cautious about handing out personal information online. From the bits I have read the OP is offended by this? There was a lot so I may have missed something. I am sure I am not the only one who is careful about pictures and personal information. Even on Facebook and my parenting message boards I am very careful.

amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:30:24 PM)
quote: Of course I find local guys --- despite the delusional comments of a previous requester. Only person that seems to be making personal attacks is you

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:30:45 PM)
Bdsm is a lot of different "lifesyles" it is not all M/s, D/s, TPE, etc. What you view as a lifestyle someone else might not.

LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:31:27 PM)
For the love of God, please tell Me that you are practicing safe sex. Hey, I like watersports, too, (yeah, I know, I'm going to get mail now) but if I had something that could be passed on to another person, it might be time to take that off My kink list.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:33:05 PM)
Yes, it was. You said you often speak to people from other countries and they often want you to help them come here. I am not saying they are all doing it but that is a pretty common scam all over the net.

amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:34:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact For the love of God, please tell Me that you are practicing safe sex. Hey, I like watersports, too, (yeah, I know, I'm going to get mail now) but if I had something that could be passed on to another person, it might be time to take that off My kink list. I think that is what several people have an issue with - that the OP in his profile says: 1. I am HIV-positive. If you are neg, you must be ok with bbsex. So he needs either a HIV Pos partner OR someone that is willing to contract HIV to be with him. Not sure in the USA but here in the UK knowingly giving someone else HIV can be seen as an offence.

pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:34:59 PM)
Piss is sterile...very unlikely you can "pass" something on. In fact, in some cultures, piss is considered to have medicinal value and is routinely ingested. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact For the love of God, please tell Me that you are practicing safe sex. Hey, I like watersports, too, (yeah, I know, I'm going to get mail now) but if I had something that could be passed on to another person, it might be time to take that off My kink list.

stef -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:36:17 PM)
Follow your own advice, Hornswoggle.

amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:36:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy Piss is sterile...very unlikely you can "pass" something on. In fact, in some cultures, piss is considered to have medicinal value and is routinely ingested. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact For the love of God, please tell Me that you are practicing safe sex. Hey, I like watersports, too, (yeah, I know, I'm going to get mail now) but if I had something that could be passed on to another person, it might be time to take that off My kink list. Piss carrys pathogens. And Bare Back Sex, ESPECIALLY Anal is about as risky as you can get. I was staying away from the whole wanting to pass on HIV thing however it is amazingly selfish to desire to in my book

LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:37:08 PM)
OP, has it ever occurred to you that the people you are "chatting" with might not have read your profile at first and get scared off due to your HIV status?

Killerangel -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:37:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy The point remains how to make it possible to avoid people who have no genuine interest in Master/slave or Dom/sub relationships OR who are attempting to manipulate people here into believing they are seriously interested in somebody when they are not. I would still like to hear other suggestions regarding that. I answered this long ago. Anyone is welcome on this site, anyone looking for anything. You are not the dictator on how people may use this site. Some people just want a NSA boink and their purpose here is no less important than yours. People who want to use kinky implements and fuck have just as much reason to be here. Whether you agree with that or not doesn't matter. There are no inherent guidelines here that dictate that all users must look for a D/s long term relationship. It's just like free speech, Mr. Married Pretend Dom who is looking for an online wank is just as entitled to be here as Mr. Serious Single Dom looking for a real life relationship. If either of them uses manipulation to achieve their goal is beside the point and that part is on the person they are interacting with to detect- its not the responsibility of the site to protect the users. That would actually be impossible to do.

pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 1:37:21 PM)
Actually, AMaid, you are not up-to-speed on this topic. The general thinking in the medical community is that HIV-positive but undetectable people have a very low prospect of infecting anyone. One prominent Swiss HIV specialist told an annual AIDS Conference a few years ago that his research established it was virtually impossible for undetectable poz individuals to transmit the disease. quote: ORIGINAL: amaidiamond quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact For the love of God, please tell Me that you are practicing safe sex. Hey, I like watersports, too, (yeah, I know, I'm going to get mail now) but if I had something that could be passed on to another person, it might be time to take that off My kink list. I think that is what several people have an issue with - that the OP in his profile says: 1. I am HIV-positive. If you are neg, you must be ok with bbsex. So he needs either a HIV Pos partner OR someone that is willing to contract HIV to be with him. Not sure in the USA but here in the UK knowingly giving someone else HIV can be seen as an offence.

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