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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 1:53:28 PM   
pshornyguy


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Status: offline 		Well, I am getting my information from two different sources:

The first was my original HIV specialist in San Francisco who was head of the HIV-unit at Kaiser HMO.

The second is a doctor from Johns Hopkins University who headed their HIV research unit. I forget his name right now -- but he wrote a book about 7-8 years ago.

You can also check out the references at the bottom of the Wikipedia article about "urine therapy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_therapy

Unlike yourself, I do not pretend to know everything about every subject. I always am willing to correct whatever I believe which is mistaken. More importantly, I do not attack my critics (as is your custom) with personal insults just because they might be mistaken about or unfamiliar with certain facts. All of us are fallible human beings...even you.

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Piss is sterile...very unlikely you can "pass" something on.

Urine is normally sterile but only until it leaves the bladder. Your urethra is not sterile. Please don't compound this idiocy by passing along incorrect and possibly dangerous medical "advice" as well.

If you want to be cavalier about your own safety that's one thing, but you're possibly screwing with other people's lives here.




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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 1:53:41 PM   
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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 1:53:55 PM   
Karmastic


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Lafayette Lady:

It is YOU who is dense and who is not using your head.

I have repeatedly stated here that I am not proposing anything based upon ONE incident or ONE 30-minute or 60-minute conversation. I have repeatedly stated that EVERYTHING I am proposing MUST be based upon a RECURRING PATTERN of behavior.

NOW PLEASE RE-READ THAT LAST PARAGRAPH ONE MORE TIME and then have the decency to apologize to me for deliberately mis-representing my position.


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

All I have done, for the 100th time, is ask a question which should appeal to EVERYONE on this website or any other....i.e. how do we minimize wasting our time on fakes and liars?




As pages and pages of people keep telling you.  You avoid it by not thinking with your little head, and instead using the one sitting so squarely on your shoulders.  Do you honestly believe that if you talk to someone for 30 minutes or an hour who is professing to want to be your slave forever is serious?  How dense to you have to be to not grasp that concept?

You want to know that someone is genuine, talk to them, set up a meeting.  Then put a damn shirt on and go meet them at a local Starbucks.  Bring a book, get your favorite beverage and pass the time.  If they show up great, if they don't, at least it will have been a couple of hours without you being here whining and complaining that you can't find someone who "genuinely" looks forward to you pissing in their mouth.




pshornyguy, i only read your responses from the first and last page, to see how your absurd suggestion has evolved. amazing!

so, how in the hell does a person qualify to be the judge and arbiter of who gets to add to the database?

what is the criteria for allowing a person to contribute?

how do you stop people from lying, and placing false data in the database?

it's hard to believe you stuck with this thread for 14 pages now with this absurd proposal.


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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 1:54:05 PM   
Killerangel


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I and others have given several answers to this but those are the ones you ignore



Yes, how dishonest of the OP no? To say he wants suggestions and then ignores the ones given.

Deciding dishonesty is not quite as simple as you make it out to be. Someone not wanting to give out their pics could be a case of having wanted to at the time and then you brought up something in conversation that made them cut off their interest. In their eyes, maybe you were dishonest and didn't reveal something important to them before asking for their picture.

That is the entire point, you keep trying to pinpoint a subjective label on someone. How you view things in not universal or a law that can be applied in a blanket fashion. You want people accountable for their actions to you without giving them input into the process. This is not fair and should have no place on a public web site that is for the use of millions beside yourself. Everyone's definition of things is their own and doesn't necessarily match up with yours and they're welcome to be different without being judged by you. That isn't being dishonest, it's being different.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 1:55:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

NOW PLEASE RE-READ THAT LAST PARAGRAPH ONE MORE TIME and then have the decency to apologize to me for deliberately mis-representing my position.

Your hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING.


TOTALLY!!!!!!


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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 1:58:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy
Well, I am getting my information from two different sources:

The first was my original HIV specialist in San Francisco who was head of the HIV-unit at Kaiser HMO.

The second is a doctor from Johns Hopkins University who headed their HIV research unit. I forget his name right now -- but he wrote a book about 7-8 years ago.

HIV was spread intentionally in the hopes of killing off most of the world population. One cannot trust physicians: they may well be part of the conspiracy and spreading disinformation to promulgate the disease.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:00:23 PM   
pshornyguy


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Status: offline 		All adults make decisions about what risks to take -- whether in their sexual behavior or in any other areas of their lives.

Many people on this site are into extreme BDSM (see profiles here re: people into breath control, needles, sounding, CBT, and other behaviors which can result in permanent marks or significant physical damage).

The important thing is to be totally honest and upfront about one's preferences -- as I always am in every profile I have online.

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Even if there is only a 0.5% chance risk it is STILL disgustingly selfish to put someone else at risk of it by deliberatly not using a rubber simply because you prefer bareback.




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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:01:09 PM   
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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:01:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Sincelo:

Let's reconsider this logically, ok?

1. At 4pm Derek promises to send somebody his pics as soon as he gets home from work (i.e. 6pm)

2. Derek never sends his pics nor any message to say he is no longer interested.

3. What happened in that 2-hour period? Why would Derek even agree to send his pics at 4pm if he was not interested??

Also, consider THE CONTEXT -- which is CRITICAL.

Suppose you had spent 2 hours chatting with Derek and he was effusive in his replies -- i.e. constantly writing things that made you feel he really was interested in you and he wanted to get to know you better and probably even visit you sometime in the near future.

WHY would all that energy and enthusiasm just evaporate instantly---IF Derek was being honest?

THEN, what if you discover that this behavior by Derek is commonplace? He sends very enthusiastic messages, he promises to send his pics, but he never does.

Wouldn't you want to know that is his PATTERN of behavior so you don't waste your time on him --- unless, of course, you are bored and just looking for "let's pretend" messages!






I know Derek, and he has given me permission to speak for him.

He is just too kind of a human being to be rude. He really thought you would get the message that he was not interested when no pics were received.

Derek was interested in you at first, then he realized that you have a tendency to beat a dead horse about things. That was his number 1 turn off when he posed for "Playgirl". He didn't want to be cruel, by saying "holy shit dude that vein in your leg freaks me the fuck out, not to mention your profile says nothing about what i will get out of a relationship. This just can not work because, well, you have no personality at all, and I need more than a dick and a glass of piss to give my self to."

Derek is a kind soul. I am currently tutoring him to type "FUCK OFF YOU SORRY PIECE OF SHIT I AM NOT INTERESTED!".

I am afraid it may take a while to get him trained though. When I try to make him use all caps, he curls into the fetal position and cries something about caps are just for masters or some such shit.

So you see, these folks are not fakes, they are kind folks, who just want to spare your feelings.

Good luck to ya dude.



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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:02:00 PM   
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All adults make decisions about what risks to take -- whether in their sexual behavior or in any other areas of their lives.

So you're telling everybody you piss on that your urine is full of a virus that will suppress their immune system in the fullness of time, then?


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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:02:36 PM   
pshornyguy


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Status: offline 		Then specify your evidence. Why am I a hypocrite? And why are you trying to divert attention from your deliberate misrepresentation of what I believe and what I have posted here since the very beginning of this thread?

It is almost as though you just want to demonize me and you are prepared to INVENT ANYTHING if it serves your purpose because, as a fiction writer, you are not constrained by facts or truth.


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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl


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ORIGINAL: stef

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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

NOW PLEASE RE-READ THAT LAST PARAGRAPH ONE MORE TIME and then have the decency to apologize to me for deliberately mis-representing my position.

Your hypocrisy is ASTOUNDING.


TOTALLY!!!!!!



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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:02:53 PM   
stef


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Well, I am getting my information from two different sources:

The first was my original HIV specialist in San Francisco who was head of the HIV-unit at Kaiser HMO.

The second is a doctor from Johns Hopkins University who headed their HIV research unit. I forget his name right now -- but he wrote a book about 7-8 years ago.

You can also check out the references at the bottom of the Wikipedia article about "urine therapy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine_therapy

That's nice. Unfortunately, none of that refutes what I said.

You want to engage in "urine therapy" and drink your own piss, then fine, knock yourself out. That's not what we're talking about here. If you want to put others at risk just to satisfy one of your kinks, then that's despicable.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:03:00 PM   
amaidiamond


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Status: offline 		If people choose to partake with you, and know the risks than yes that is their choice..

I am RACK, I play "dangerously" by many standards..

BUT

It is still such utterly selfish behaviour

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:03:58 PM   
Killerangel


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

All adults make decisions about what risks to take -- whether in their sexual behavior or in any other areas of their lives.

Many people on this site are into extreme BDSM (see profiles here re: people into breath control, needles, sounding, CBT, and other behaviors which can result in permanent marks or significant physical damage).

The important thing is to be totally honest and upfront about one's preferences -- as I always am in every profile I have online.



Permanent marks or significant physical damage is not death is it? How is it that you think comparing marks and/or damage to a fatal disease is sound reasoning?

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:04:31 PM   
pshornyguy


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Status: offline 		My piss does not contain any virus -- unless you know something that none of my labs can detect? And, incidentally, I have multiple urine tests every three months for reasons that are none of your business but which give me more information about my status than you know about yours!

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

All adults make decisions about what risks to take -- whether in their sexual behavior or in any other areas of their lives.

So you're telling everybody you piss on that your urine is full of a virus that will suppress their immune system in the fullness of time, then?



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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:05:07 PM   
stef


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

Then specify your evidence. Why am I a hypocrite? And why are you trying to divert attention from your deliberate misrepresentation of what I believe and what I have posted here since the very beginning of this thread?

How do I misrepresent you by quoting your own words?

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It is almost as though you just want to demonize me and you are prepared to INVENT ANYTHING if it serves your purpose because, as a fiction writer, you are not constrained by facts or truth.

There's some of that hypocrisy right there. I didn't even have to go looking for it. thanks for the assist.

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:05:24 PM   
amaidiamond


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Status: offline 		Yep I love needles, play piercings etc...

But I am not going to die in 20 years because of a session i did a few months ago

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:06:09 PM   
pshornyguy


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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


quote:

ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

All adults make decisions about what risks to take -- whether in their sexual behavior or in any other areas of their lives.

Many people on this site are into extreme BDSM (see profiles here re: people into breath control, needles, sounding, CBT, and other behaviors which can result in permanent marks or significant physical damage).

The important thing is to be totally honest and upfront about one's preferences -- as I always am in every profile I have online.



Permanent marks or significant physical damage is not death is it? How is it that you think comparing marks and/or damage to a fatal disease is sound reasoning?


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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:06:52 PM   
amaidiamond


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My piss does not contain any virus


Yeah you keep telling yourself that...

If you truly believe that then maybe you would be interested in the country I am selling?

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RE: Fakes and Liars on CM - 6/9/2012 2:07:55 PM   
pshornyguy


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ORIGINAL: Killerangel


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ORIGINAL: pshornyguy

All adults make decisions about what risks to take -- whether in their sexual behavior or in any other areas of their lives.

Many people on this site are into extreme BDSM (see profiles here re: people into breath control, needles, sounding, CBT, and other behaviors which can result in permanent marks or significant physical damage).

The important thing is to be totally honest and upfront about one's preferences -- as I always am in every profile I have online.



Permanent marks or significant physical damage is not death is it? How is it that you think comparing marks and/or damage to a fatal disease is sound reasoning?


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