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pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:09:06 PM)
And I have not died either since I first learned I was HIV-positive (22 years ago). Nor has anyone I have had sex with died. And the few people I have had sex with who are neg, are still neg. quote: ORIGINAL: amaidiamond Yep I love needles, play piercings etc... But I am not going to die in 20 years because of a session i did a few months ago

amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:09:14 PM)
You keep telling yourself whatever you need to to justify to yourself your behaviour is ok...

ModTwentyOne -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:09:43 PM)
What part of "stay on topic" is not getting through?

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:10:33 PM)
PS, is there a reason you did not answer me to if the doctor you were talking about is James Hildreth ? I have read some of his work and am interested to know if it is him you are referring to.

Moonhead -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:10:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy Please name the people who have died from HIV or AIDS as a result of having sex with an individual who is HIV-positive but undetectable and who has been undetectable for 22 years! Freddie Mercury. Holly Johnson is still around, but the clock's ticking on that lad as well. (As for your urine tastes not turning anything up, I suppose that means that the penicillin's worked on the gonnorhea you picked up as well, then.)

NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:11:22 PM)
Psst! Hey hornyguy, I'm not trying to demonize anyone. But what I see here in these 15 pages so far is you are attacking everyone who disagrees with you, which IS nearly everyone, and you sit there expecting an APOLOGY!?!? hahahahaha As for "evidence," are you referring to evidence of your hypocrisy? Your posting and how you respond to others speaks for itself. If you're talking evidence of HIV+ urine being a risk, it's a medical FACT. Has been for years. HEALTHY urine IS sterile. A person's URETHRA is NOT sterile, and the urine picks up all sorts of nasty ass things on it's way out of the body.

amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:12:27 PM)
Ok, back on topic - Nope a list of "warning" with peoples names on is a non practical idea

LafayetteLady -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:12:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy Lafayette Lady: It is YOU who is dense and who is not using your head. I have repeatedly stated here that I am not proposing anything based upon ONE incident or ONE 30-minute or 60-minute conversation. I have repeatedly stated that EVERYTHING I am proposing MUST be based upon a RECURRING PATTERN of behavior. NOW PLEASE RE-READ THAT LAST PARAGRAPH ONE MORE TIME and then have the decency to apologize to me for deliberately mis-representing my position. I have read this entire post, and looked at your pasty bare chested picture for 15 pages. I have had the decency to point out to you (just as others have) the problems with your "suggestion," as well as the reasons people are likely disappearing on you. You are so arrogant, you refuse to listen. If you honestly believe that you can't pass your deadly infection to others by pissing in their mouth seven or eight times a day, or by riding or being ridden bareback, you are even more ignorant than it first appeared. Here's the deal. Your nickname screams your interest is NOT for a lifetime partner, but for some kinky sex. Your profile basically lists all the kinky things you want. The only thing you list that isn't fetish related is that you are HIV positive and blame your meds for you appearance (doubtful by the way). Again, that is NOT the profile of someone looking for a lifetime partner to "enjoy" the lifestyle with, it is someone looking for some kinky sex. You are looking for a sexual partner that will essentially be there as a fetish delivery system for you, and you exhibit not only a lack of consideration for the risk you would put them at for contracting your DEADLY disease, but also through these pages, you show a complete ignorance regarding same (a book written nearly 10 years ago is seriously outdated). You are into watersports, yet really are mis-informed about the "safety" of your diseased piss. Can you really not see why all this adds up to you being a poster child for people looking to scam others? Again, if someone is quickly professing how much they want to be with you, a SMART person is instantly wary. You, on the other hand get your hopes up and become angry when they disappear on you. You don't seem to recognize that all it takes is one comment to turn someone off and make them disappear. You don't get that people will tell you they will do something just to get away from talking to you because they don't have it in them to tell you to go away. What I have had the "decency" to do is to tell you realistically how you are disillusioned. It is YOU who is mis-representing your own position, not me. There will be no apology forthcoming from me. It has been difficult enough to restrain myself from being too snarky and telling you what I really think of you and your ignorance wanting to endanger others with your disease. Another 15 pages will go by with you still being too dense to understand what anyone here is telling you, and another 15 pages of you attacking people and whining like a child about people being dishonest with you on the internet. I really suggest since you seem to have such high expectations of strangers on the internet, you crawl back under your rock where your reality is not affected by the actual reality of the world.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:15:12 PM)
A little over 15,000 people in the states die every year from AIDs. That may seem like a small number to you but I would be willing to bet it isn't a small number to those people or the people that knew them. To get back on topic though.....you never defined the word "recurring" for me. I do ever so want to know it I would end up on your list or not.

amaidiamond -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:15:21 PM)
I REALLY wish CM had a like button for that EPIC post LafayetteLady... it really does say it all

LafayetteLady -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:18:31 PM)
Thank you. And with that post, I'm done. I have used all the restraint I have. If I respond again, words like "Chewbacca" may pass through my fingers.

pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:18:32 PM)
Karsmatic: The questions you ask are the reason I posted my original message. I asked for suggestions. Everyone would be free to post the screen name of someone they believe to be dishonest. But no single listing would be of any significance unless there was a pattern of dishonest behavior. Keep in mind that the dishonest behavior could be validated thru multiple sources. The whole point of the information list (or database) is simply to give genuine people a caution about whom they are dealing with. They can then pursue their future discussions in whatever way they think appropriate. For example: Suppose somebody lies about their age, height, weight, etc. Perhaps somebody might post website names where that person has other profiles using the same screen name that reveal his/her dishonesty because the info on those other sites is totally different. Perhaps even the pictures posted are of totally different people. I don't understand why you are so negative about the number of pages in this thread. Any proposal or idea which generates a discussion will consume pages -- especially if people use the "quote" option to include the original message they are responding to. What I detect here is a VERY anti-intellectual bias by people who not accustomed to explaining themselves or not willing to actually defend their position with specific details. Instead, it is always easier to make snide comments, ad hominem slurs, and attempt to demonize the messenger rather than address the message. pshornyguy, i only read your responses from the first and last page, to see how your absurd suggestion has evolved. amazing! so, how in the hell does a person qualify to be the judge and arbiter of who gets to add to the database? what is the criteria for allowing a person to contribute? how do you stop people from lying, and placing false data in the database? it's hard to believe you stuck with this thread for 14 pages now with this absurd proposal. _____________________________ I don't mind being respectfully challenged, or being proven wrong. If either happens, then I've learned something and grown. Be who you are sexually...OWN it, and live it. note to self...add more snappy quotes and shit

LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:19:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ModTwentyOne What part of "stay on topic" is not getting through? That didn't exactly answer My question.

stef -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:22:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy What I detect here is a VERY anti-intellectual bias by people who not accustomed to explaining themselves or not willing to actually defend their position with specific details. Instead, it is always easier to make snide comments, ad hominem slurs, and attempt to demonize the messenger rather than address the message. The "message" has been addressed, many times over. You just don't like the answers because they disagree with your premise. Because of that, you resort to namecalling and attacks, just like you did above then cry about others doing the same to you. I believe that's a textbook display of hypocrisy.

Master2811 -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:23:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy Like every other website, CM has a significant percentage of fakes and liars -- i.e. people who have no genuine interest in Master/slave or Dom/sub relationships OR who are attempting to manipulate people here into believing they are seriously interested in somebody when they are not. Instead, these fakes and liars create a fictional persona intended to seduce men or women into believing that they are genuinely interested in becoming a slave or sub. I would like to propose that we create a database to list all of the fakes/liars on CM so that anyone could consult the list to discover the screen names, email addresses, and other identifying info about them. Is there anyone else interested in this proposal? I would suggest the following criteria for adding people to the list of fakes and liars: 1. promise to send pics but then never does so 2. promise to contact again (thru email or instant message) but never does so 3. dishonest or highly suspect profile details (such as phony age, weight, height, or other attributes OR discovering profiles on other websites that present materially different details about same person) 4. dishonest responses to questions or comments (such as giving different answers at different times) Anyone have other suggestions? Money scammers from Africa, Russia and Asia. Subs or slaves claiming they need money. But nowadays they also put profiles here as if they are Americans or Europeans.

pshornyguy -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:24:15 PM)
Maybe I don't understand your question? What is difficult to understand about the word recurring? A pattern of recurring behavior means that it is not just ONE incident. It would be multiple reports of a specific problem -- such as several people stating that a CM person never showed up for an agreed upon meeting, or, perhaps several people stating that they found totally different profile info on different websites by the same person, or multiple people stating that a CM member stated he/she would send pics within a specific time-frame but nothing was ever received and there was no further contact --- so that becomes a behavior pattern which a dishonest person employs quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain A little over 15,000 people in the states die every year from AIDs. That may seem like a small number to you but I would be willing to bet it isn't a small number to those people or the people that knew them. To get back on topic though.....you never defined the word "recurring" for me. I do ever so want to know it I would end up on your list or not.

NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:25:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stef The "message" has been addressed, many times over. You just don't like the answers because they disagree with your premise. Because of that, you resort to namecalling and attacks, just like you did above then cry about others doing the same to you. I believe that's a textbook display of hypocrisy. This. ^^^^

Master2811 -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:28:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy This is not really a "blacklist" proposal. These fakes and liars could continue to operate here just as they always have. However, those of us who are genuine would have advance warning that whatever conversation takes place is entirely phony. This has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with my or your "feelings" or "compatibility". It is comparable to consumer protection laws regarding "truth in advertising". quote: ORIGINAL: myotherself Yes - I suggest a couple of things: 1. Read the Terms of Use of this site, particularly the bit where you aren't allowed to blacklist other users simply because they don't fit your particular brand of 'true' 2. Use the search function to find the other umpty-million threads on this exact same topic 3. Grow a thicker skin and learn to deal with the fact that not everyone is compatible with you and not everyone cares about your feelings - until you meet in real-life you are simply a collection of pixels on a screen and not a real person 4. Go out into your local real-life community and actually meet people and build friendships and relationships from there I am totally on your side. It has nothing to do with preferences. It has to do with cleansing this site from people who do not belong here. Money scammers and such people.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:29:05 PM)
Had you read it when I asked you would have seen that I said I commonly tell people I live in a town near me when I actually live in the country. I told three people that towns name yesterday when they asked where I live. Would this "recurring" thing that I do put me on your list? Do you understand now?

LadyPact -> RE: Fakes and Liars on CM (6/9/2012 2:31:12 PM)
How am I supposed to stay on topic when shit like this crosses the screen? quote: ORIGINAL: pshornyguy And I have not died either since I first learned I was HIV-positive (22 years ago). Nor has anyone I have had sex with died. And the few people I have had sex with who are neg, are still neg. I'm actually ASTOUNDED that every person you've had sex with over the last 22 years is able to be found and shares their medical information with you. I have to admit, I couldn't make that claim. Hell, even I've had one night stands in the last 22 years. Yes, according to your criteria, I'm an "extreme" BDSM person because I like needles, cutting, CBT, and all of that other stuff you mentioned. Here's the kicker though. I always have consent. If I put a needle in somebody, it's because they are aware of the fact that I'm going to do it. I also don't take needles out of the sterile packaging before they get used, reuse needles on multiple people, or any other stupid crap that could spread disease. Want to know why? Because, unlike you, I actually give a fuck about the people I engage with.

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