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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/12/2012 6:31:34 PM   
ChasePup


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Every Tom, Dick and Harry seems to want to control my diet. Some want to make me thinner, some want to make me fatter. Some are happy with me as I am.
Getting fitter and healthier is kind of tempting, Jenny Craig with perks kind of, but shouldn't it really come from within rather than from someone else. I'm always a bit suspicious of people who want to 'fix' me. What happens once you are fixed...

I've been mulling it over quite a lot if I would want this to be part of a relationship. I wouldn't want a relationship to revolve around my diet and fitness (more than a few have offered this) but should I be happy with someone who's happy with me being unfit and fat.



It is most certainly important to be comfortable with the person you are, but the reality is once a person crosses the threshold from being "a few lbs over weight" to simply overweight...or obese..it brings with it a heck of a lot of negative health consequences not to mention shortens their longevity.

I compare it to why people go to a trainer at a gym..there's plenty of information on the web to learn the ropes yourself. But having some one there to push you, guide you, correct you and most importantly support you is the reason people pay $$$$$ for personal training. For me, I enjoy having a Master provide solutions to those needs...even though I'm more than capable (and currently am) pursuing physical fittness myself.

I would of course expect any Master/Mistress to lead by example in fitness and nutrition. Scarfing down donuts, pizza, and beer while your sub devours chicken & rice for the 4th time in a week...doesn't seem very supportive lol. ( of course anything goes on cheat days!)

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/12/2012 6:34:22 PM   
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I would say definitely so, if they weren't healthy. Eating fast food, lots of sodium intake, processed foods, or sodas everyday just isn't healthy. So yea, I would monitor and control what was on the menu. However, one would be surprised the things that can be eaten. I love cheesecake, it is absolutely fattening as hell. So Hubby made a protein cheesecake. I can eat it all day. He found the ingredients on the internet. He is a serious weight lifter. So anything healthy, He usually finds.



Care to post the recipe? *begs* freak'n love cheesecake!

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/12/2012 6:46:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChasePup

A question for both subs & Doms. Do you restrict or are you restricted from eating certain foods?

When I was last in a D/s relationship I was given a meal plan & fitness routine that was strict but fair (had 1 cheat day per week).

At first i found it unpleasant but have really come to appreciate that aspect of my previous relationship - it was care & control beyond sexual to keep me healthy and easy on the eyes. Going on 29 i'm happy He did that.

Metabolism is a bitch once you hit 30!!


(Wait till you hit 50)



I hear you. The older you get, the more work one had to put into their body and diet. However it can be done. People like Tony Horton, probably almost at the 50 yr mark. Amazing body and incredibly healthy - that man will be going strong t'll the day he dies.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/12/2012 7:42:45 PM   
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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/12/2012 7:53:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChasePup


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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: ChasePup

A question for both subs & Doms. Do you restrict or are you restricted from eating certain foods?

When I was last in a D/s relationship I was given a meal plan & fitness routine that was strict but fair (had 1 cheat day per week).

At first i found it unpleasant but have really come to appreciate that aspect of my previous relationship - it was care & control beyond sexual to keep me healthy and easy on the eyes. Going on 29 i'm happy He did that.

Metabolism is a bitch once you hit 30!!


(Wait till you hit 50)



I hear you. The older you get, the more work one had to put into their body and diet. However it can be done. People like Tony Horton, probably almost at the 50 yr mark. Amazing body and incredibly healthy - that man will be going strong t'll the day he dies.



Just remember....all you health freaks.....Jim Fix, a major runner died in his 40's.....on a run!

(Thank GAWD I don't exercise!)

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/12/2012 10:21:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChasePup

A question for both subs & Doms. Do you restrict or are you restricted from eating certain foods?


Not usually. I eat very healthy as it is, and have been on a healthy and steady weight loss since before we met. He is hugely supportive of this effort, but has also found that because of my issues with food, tinkering with my diet is not a good idea.

Over time, I have influenced his diet, and he likes eating healthy and notices the way he feels when he doesn't. He's also lost weight as a result.

He might say what he wants for dinner, and I can offer a healthy version of it. He'll agree to that more often than not.

We also both exercise.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/12/2012 11:59:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChasePup

A question for both subs & Doms. Do you restrict or are you restricted from eating certain foods?

When I was last in a D/s relationship I was given a meal plan & fitness routine that was strict but fair (had 1 cheat day per week).

At first i found it unpleasant but have really come to appreciate that aspect of my previous relationship - it was care & control beyond sexual to keep me healthy and easy on the eyes. Going on 29 i'm happy He did that.

Metabolism is a bitch once you hit 30!!



I have a very good diet and fitness regimen, so this wouldn't really apply to me. That said, I wouldn't appreciate a domme who wanted me on a healthy eating/fitness plan unless she was equally rigorous in following a similar plan herself.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/13/2012 1:28:21 AM   
RaspberryLemon


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Status: offline 		I think the way Jeff put it sums up pretty well how it is in my relationship:
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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
sort of.

The way you phrase this is odd for our relationship. It's not exactly like I "restrict" certain foods. I own a human. Eating and nutrition are part of the care & maintenance for a human. So I feed my human. It's isn't some sort of "control thing". It's mandatory if you want to own a human (for very long)


My Master is responsible for feeding me, and as such what I eat is up to him. But he doesn't really restrict or micromanage my diet. We live together (and more often than not, eat together--although I can make suggestions or requests, what we eat together is up to him), so there is really nothing in the house that he wouldn't find acceptable for me to eat. His current rule for my diet is that I can eat what I want, however much I want, when I'm hungry. If I started eating in a way or quantity he did not find to be healthy or satisfactory, he would change that and make sure I was eating in a way he agreed with.

As for fitness/exercise is concerned, he has a routine for both of us that we follow together. He's tailored it to fit our individual different strengths and abilities, so we aren't always doing identical exercises or identical #s of repetitions, but we exercise together and I find that is really motivating and pleasant.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/13/2012 1:54:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		When Paul and I decided to live together, he was told that he would have to effectively become veggie.

I don't allow meat or fish to be cooked on any of my pans or in my oven, so he would eat and/or cook as I wanted or go without. Funnily enough he decided that eating veggie at home with me was fine.

I do sometimes allow him to choose fish dishes when out or to have fish and chips in the house but no meat at all.

He was happy to obey my wishes as to his diet. I think he accepted it as part of the greater picture which makes up his giving up control to me. It helps him that he knows it is a matter of principle for me as I have been veggie for about 27 years. Living by my principles makes him happy.

I also do not permit him to mention 'Krispy Kreme' doughnuts by name but that is just an in-joke between us. When we are out, I will let him have a couple as a treat sometimes, so I am not a complete monster :-)



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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/13/2012 3:14:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have been following a fairly strict, sugar free, vegan diet for 4 years now, for health reasons. When I met my woman, (here on CM), she was significantly overweight, diabetic, and the doctors were ready to start her on insulin. We dated for about 6 months, weekends only. During that time, I showed her how I cooked, bought her a rice cooker, gave her some reading materiel; I put the tools in her hand. I did not demand she lose weight, or follow my diet. It didn't take her long to embrace my ways, and she lost 50 lbs in 6 months, as well as REVERSING the adult onset diabetes. Today, she lives with me, is completely off prescription drugs of any kind, continues toward a healthy weight, and continues to eat as I do.
I would never dream of imposing my rather weird dietary rules on some unsuspecting innocent . I believe in leading by example, I would never demand she do something I'm not doing myself. I would have considered a meat eater as a life partner. However, life being what it is, it is much easier to cook one meal than two.
I consider myself a lucky man.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/13/2012 3:20:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love to use a restricted diet for my new pets when I train them. Start them off like an animal and have them slowly work their way up to human status, with a pet mentality.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/13/2012 3:38:33 AM   
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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/13/2012 4:34:06 AM   
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I showed her how I cooked, bought her a rice cooker, gave her some reading materiel; I put the tools in her hand. I did not demand she lose weight, or follow my diet. It didn't take her long to embrace my ways, and she lost 50 lbs in 6 months, as well as REVERSING the adult onset diabetes. Today, she lives with me, is completely off prescription drugs of any kind, continues toward a healthy weight, and continues to eat as I do.


I see this every season on the Biggest Loser; it's great to read that it's doable without all NBC's bells and whistles.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/13/2012 5:28:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: areallivehuman

I have been following a fairly strict, sugar free, vegan diet for 4 years now, for health reasons. When I met my woman, (here on CM), she was significantly overweight, diabetic, and the doctors were ready to start her on insulin. We dated for about 6 months, weekends only. During that time, I showed her how I cooked, bought her a rice cooker, gave her some reading materiel; I put the tools in her hand. I did not demand she lose weight, or follow my diet. It didn't take her long to embrace my ways, and she lost 50 lbs in 6 months, as well as REVERSING the adult onset diabetes. Today, she lives with me, is completely off prescription drugs of any kind, continues toward a healthy weight, and continues to eat as I do.
I would never dream of imposing my rather weird dietary rules on some unsuspecting innocent . I believe in leading by example, I would never demand she do something I'm not doing myself. I would have considered a meat eater as a life partner. However, life being what it is, it is much easier to cook one meal than two.
I consider myself a lucky man.


I just want to know....is pizza, mashed potatoes, gravy, biscuits and shitloads of white bread on this diet?

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/14/2012 3:27:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Pizza, we have found some whole grain crusts which are very tasty, topped with sauteed onions, mushrooms,garlic and carrots. On Mothers day we were at the womans' kids house, they had sheet pizza, one of which was just onions and cheese, especially for me. Not wanting to be ungrateful, I ate some.... got to tell you, it was awful, I could barely finish my third piece.

Mashed potatoes, sure, but without butter or cream. Biscuits, white bread..... you'd be surprised how bad some of this stuff tastes after you've been away from it for a while. But no, in general, if it has sugar, white flour, or any animal byproducts at all, I don't eat it.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/14/2012 3:46:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can't even stand the smell of white bread like Wonder.

Rule 37 - The Whiter the Bread, The Sooner You'll be Dead.

Pollan calls this a “blunt bit of cross-cultural grand-motherly advice (passed down from both Jewish and Italian grandmothers).” He explains that such advice “suggests that the health risks of white flour have been popularly recognized for many years. As far as the body is concerned, white flour is not much different from sugar. Unless supplemented, it offers none of the good things (fiber, B vitamins, healthy fats) in whole grains–it’s little more than a shot of glucose. Large spikes of glucose are inflammatory and wreak havoc on our insulin metabolism. Eat whole grains and minimize your consumption of white flour. Recent research indicates that the grandmothers who lived by this rule were right: People who eat lots of whole grains tend to be healthier and to live longer” (81).

I’m seeing a pretty simple trend in all of Pollan’s rules so far: eat food as close to its natural state as you possibly can. The less processed it is, the better. That of course includes whole grains. No more “enriched wheat flour”! I have a buckwheat kasha bread recipe that’s absolutely delicious (and totally whole grain). If you’d like a copy, let me know.

The tips are courtesy of Michael Pollan’s book "Food Rules: An Eater’s Manual." New York: Penguin, 2009.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/14/2012 3:55:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChasePup


I hear you. The older you get, the more work one had to put into their body and diet. However it can be done. People like Tony Horton, probably almost at the 50 yr mark. Amazing body and incredibly healthy - that man will be going strong t'll the day he dies.




To be honest, I think most people slow down the older they get, they get more lazy, they drive instead of walking and fall into the traps of comfort food, elevators instead of stairs and all that but don't eat less. Just take going out dancing your butt off, something you do regularly in your late teens or your twenties, a lot less in your 30's... People tend to just have a less active lifestyle but they don't eat less, which I think has a lot more to do with middle aged spread than the metabolism slowing down a bit due to getting older.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/14/2012 8:09:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have, on occasion, felt more like a strange, German personal trainer than a Dom.

When I had a basement dungeon, I wore out two treadmills before switching to a stationary bike.

I've worked with a lot of oversized subs and my eating and workout regimes are a popular part of the experience. A former plaything calls her weekend visits her "trip to the spa" (I do offer some interesting exfoliating techniques).

I'm not at all fond of skinny girls, but energy levels and endurance do increase with a daily workout and less crap food.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/14/2012 11:00:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		While he does not control what I eat when I am away from him (we don't live together yet), on the days we are together, yes he chooses what we eat. Since he is far more into fitness and health conscious choices than I am--I mean, I try, but omg junk food--he has me eating very healthy on the days we are together. Whether its something he cooked, something he has me cook, or going out to eat, he chooses it.
When we move in together, I'm sure it will be like this more often, except with random cheat days, because he likes those too sometimes.

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RE: You are what I SAY you eat... - 6/14/2012 1:14:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've indulged in food/diet restrictions and requirements, but it's not on my top ten list.

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