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Sanity -> CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 11:36:31 AM)


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CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/06/15/cnn_reporter_obama_decision_to_stop_deporting_young_illegals_a_victory.html


There you have it.... a CNN "journalist" cheerleading the presidents refusal to do his job as the chief law enforcement officer of the United States

Obama swore to uphold the laws of this land, just more of his hollow rhetoric











Yachtie -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 11:51:24 AM)

fr

They'll appreciate it via their Democrat vote. [8|]



mnottertail -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 11:51:59 AM)

Since the conservatives dont want to pay for this, priorities have to be set, and its gonna be criminal illegals in the number one slot and focus till the conservatives come to their senses, we all gotta cut somewhere then, right?

You want less government?  You got it.



Sanity -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 11:57:30 AM)


Agreed, Oblamo is blatantly pandering for votes with this

But, looking at the bigger picture... With hundreds of thousands more people competing for scarce jobs I doubt that the votes lost due to the dire shape of the Bush economy will help the Dems at all

In fact I am thinking this will lose them a considerable number of votes

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

fr

They'll appreciate it via their Democrat vote. [8|]




defiantbadgirl -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 12:02:26 PM)

First Romney blows it with his attitude about pre-existing conditions when his own wife has them, now the White House stops deporting young illegals and even gives them work permits despite the high unemployment rate of Americans. I'm starting to wonder if either one of these men even have the desire to win the election. As a Democrat, I'm extremely mad at what the White House is doing during a time of such high unemployment. I understand that many of these young illegals aren't to blame for their parents bringing them here, but we simply can't afford to keep them here and give them work permits when too many of our own citizens can't find work. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT BOTH PUTS AMERICANS FIRST AND IS FOR SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE?

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/report-white-house-halt-deportation-young-illegal-immigrants-133800284.html



Hillwilliam -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 12:10:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Agreed, Oblamo is blatantly pandering for votes with this


Holy fuck, stop the presses. There's an election in just under 5 months and a politician is blatantly pandering for votes. What the hell are they gonna think of next? TV attack ads?



joether -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 12:21:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
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CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/06/15/cnn_reporter_obama_decision_to_stop_deporting_young_illegals_a_victory.html


There you have it.... a CNN "journalist" cheerleading the presidents refusal to do his job as the chief law enforcement officer of the United States

Obama swore to uphold the laws of this land, just more of his hollow rhetoric


Last I checked, Mr. Obama doesnt have legal enforcement powers. He's to uphold the law the best he can. Of course, interpeting those laws are well within any American's right to a degree (the president being a constitutional scholar would know better than most). Add to the fact that many US Presidents have used signing statements to explain how they will follow a particular law or laws. Former President George W. Bush is believed to have signed over 750 such statements that effected more than 1,100 federal provisions/laws. So before you go raking the President over this....

I recall our same former president imprisoned people without lawyers, family visits, a speedy trial or allowed to look at the evidence gathered against them. These all being clear violations of the US Constitution. Yet, we didnt see to many conservatives oppose this set of actions nor of all the signing statements. So before we bash the president, how about keep things in perspective?

What the president has decided on, really doesnt effect me as a US Citizen. So some guy hopped a fence with his four year old child, settled in the USA and hasnt any further problems with the law. I do not see thousands of people going into area police stations on a daily basis reporting they broke the speeding laws and wished for the biggest penalty, do I? Do you? So the kid came illegally. What has the kid done since that time? Stay out of trouble, no criminal record and gotten good grades? Wants to go to college or join the US Military? And after that, become citizens of this great nation of immigrants?

The real problem is the 800 pound elephant in the room. No, not talking of the GOP's mascot. But of immigration reform. We as Americans have been pushing it off (granted we had bigger problems at the time). Democrats are not willing to come to a table and try to make a good honest go of things, given the Republican's track record for not compromising on issues. Republicans will not go to the table unless they can get 100% of what they want. So, this thing the president did is just a band-aid on a metaphorical dam that already has more than twenty holes in it. You want to bash the president for doing something on this issue while Congress remains hopelessly gridlock until the start of next year. Mitt Romney, while governor of Massachusetts would have sided with the President in a heartbeat. Not a single person in Vegas would bet against me that the opposite was true. But of course, true to his 'flip-flopping' and 'political slutness', he'll come out against the president's ideas.



joether -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 12:27:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Agreed, Oblamo is blatantly pandering for votes with this

But, looking at the bigger picture... With hundreds of thousands more people competing for scarce jobs I doubt that the votes lost due to the dire shape of the Bush economy will help the Dems at all

In fact I am thinking this will lose them a considerable number of votes


Yeah, the old 'they'll take jobs from us during this scarce job market' routine. Its a pretty worn attitude. When Gov. Scott Walker was taking away collective bargaining rights from Unions in his state, not one conservative on this board stood up 'in protection of the US worker'. So before you use this 'line item bull droppings', make sure you can back it up with FACTS and EVIDENCE. In fact, the threads are just a few pages behind this one regarding the union busting. I'm sure we can dig them up and figure out which one of you is a direct hypocrit....




subrob1967 -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 1:04:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

First Romney blows it with his attitude about pre-existing conditions when his own wife has them, now the White House stops deporting young illegals and even gives them work permits despite the high unemployment rate of Americans. I'm starting to wonder if either one of these men even have the desire to win the election. As a Democrat, I'm extremely mad at what the White House is doing during a time of such high unemployment. I understand that many of these young illegals aren't to blame for their parents bringing them here, but we simply can't afford to keep them here and give them work permits when too many of our own citizens can't find work. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT BOTH PUTS AMERICANS FIRST AND IS FOR SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE?

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/report-white-house-halt-deportation-young-illegal-immigrants-133800284.html



The difference being Obama's policy is an abuse of power, congress has control over immigration issues, not the executive branch...

Plus the Romney's are rich enough that I'd be willing to be their self insured. AKA Pay cash for medical services rendered.



subrob1967 -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 1:07:02 PM)

Let's see how happy the union tradesmen are when all these illegals get hired to do cheap labor instead of their union shops winning the contracts.



OokieWithaC -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 1:26:51 PM)

I'm happy with this decision. If you were brought here by your parents from another country when you were a child, you had not much choice in the matter. I remember a girl who was brought to the U.S. as a baby, but wasn't a citizen and would be deported to a country which she never even grew up in by her 21st birthday and she was in college. I am sure there a lot of others in her situation and I don't agree they should be deported. :)



cuckoldmepls -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 1:31:01 PM)

Just saw a Yahoo Poll where 72% of the respondents said they disagreed with Obama protecting illegals from deportation. Yaoo is predominantly young ppl too. I think this decision just cost Obama about 20 million votes.



cuckoldmepls -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 1:34:54 PM)

Btw, it's a felony to aide and abett Illegal Immigration. Obama could be impeached on this along with numerous other orders he has given such as ordering the dept of justice not to defend the marriage act. He took an oath to uphold and defend the laws of the united states, and he can't decide which laws he will uphold and defend.

I still think he committed treason when he revealed nuclear secrets to the Russians. If you or I had done that, we would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. When you negotiate with your adversaries, you never tell them what you have. You just tell them what you will give up.

Funny how Clinton got impeached for much less.



Sanity -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 1:48:44 PM)


Still, its pandering. And it isn't the presidents to ignore the laws as passed by congress - he should respect our laws, and go through proper channels. Further he lied when he suggested that they all want to assimilate, clearly many illegals do not

Chicano Power and La Raza (The Race) and all that

And subrob is correct about how the unions will see this
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ORIGINAL: OokieWithaC

I'm happy with this decision. If you were brought here by your parents from another country when you were a child, you had not much choice in the matter. I remember a girl who was brought to the U.S. as a baby, but wasn't a citizen and would be deported to a country which she never even grew up in by her 21st birthday and she was in college. I am sure there a lot of others in her situation and I don't agree they should be deported. :)




Owner59 -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 2:04:46 PM)

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defiantbadgirl -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 2:25:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OokieWithaC

I'm happy with this decision. If you were brought here by your parents from another country when you were a child, you had not much choice in the matter. I remember a girl who was brought to the U.S. as a baby, but wasn't a citizen and would be deported to a country which she never even grew up in by her 21st birthday and she was in college. I am sure there a lot of others in her situation and I don't agree they should be deported. :)


Young illegals in this situation through no fault of their own have my deepest sympathy. I'd be all for letting them stay and giving them work permits if there wasn't a job shortage. Unfortunately there is a job shortage, which makes helping these people a very bad idea! Have you ever heard the saying you have to first help yourself before helping anyone else? Right now, the White House should be concentrating on getting Obama re-elected to ensure the health care system in this country at least has some improvement. Now I'm afraid the White House has really blown it by giving all these illegals work permits with so many Americans out of work. I have serious doubts Obama can overcome this. How could the White House be so stupid!



mnottertail -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 2:30:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

Btw, it's a felony to aide and abett Illegal Immigration. Obama could be impeached on this along with numerous other orders he has given such as ordering the dept of justice not to defend the marriage act. He took an oath to uphold and defend the laws of the united states, and he can't decide which laws he will uphold and defend.

I still think he committed treason when he revealed nuclear secrets to the Russians. If you or I had done that, we would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. When you negotiate with your adversaries, you never tell them what you have. You just tell them what you will give up.

Funny how Clinton got impeached for much less.



Nah, they wont impeach him, cuz he would turn around and have every major grower; dole, delmonte, norbest, jennieo CEOs and managment  and so on slapped in irons on multiple counts and convicted while he wiped his ass with the impeachment, same as Clinton.

The republicans would disappear from the face of America, at that instant, cuz the political fallout from their corporate base would vaporize. 



LizDeluxe -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 4:57:57 PM)

"How can I buy your vote? Let me count the ways."

Obama is the biggest election whore I have ever seen. If he thought the Klan vote was significant enough to court, he would.



dcnovice -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 5:12:26 PM)

FR

The RCP headline is misleading. When you listen to the video, it's clear that the reporter is referring to immigrants' celebrating what they see as a victory, not pronouncing his own, much less all of CNN's, viewpoint.



dcnovice -> RE: CNN: Obama Decision To Stop Deporting Young Illegals A "Victory" (6/15/2012 5:13:51 PM)

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If he thought the Klan vote was significant enough to court, he would.

Oh my.



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