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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 12:36:33 PM   
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Is that your best defense of Obama taz

That this reeks of Iran-Contra


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Thats your problem, Sanity, and has been all along. No one is defending Obama. What we are pointing out is the hypocrisy of you and rob, among others.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 12:37:03 PM   
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Do you think that gatorboy was an artie sock?

Don't call him that. he whines to the mods and you get gold letters.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 1:33:34 PM   
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Thats your problem, Sanity, and has been all along. No one is defending Obama. What we are pointing out is the hypocrisy of you and rob, among others.



How is it hypocrisy when I wasn't even a member during the Reagan years?

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Now since I wasn't around for the Reagan years, I'll throw you a softball... Show us any threads started about Bush and Operation Wide Receiver... Hell, I'll make it even easier, show us any NEWS stories about Operation Wide Receiver.


You might want to look up the definition of hypocrisy Taz...

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 1:39:07 PM   
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Q: Name the biggest difference between Watergate and F&F
A: No one was killed in Watergate



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 1:45:16 PM   
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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 1:53:05 PM   
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Watergate was a criminal conspiracy.....hatched within the White House.

No criminal wrong doing here......

There was an elaborate but futile attempt at a cover up by Nixon.

No cover up here....

There was bi-partisan agreement in Watergate...with both parties taking part.

This, is a purely political ,partisan witch-hunt......where the hunters also have blood on there hands......

And criminals killed the agent.....not the AG or any other LEO.

Who knew cons would still be feeling guilty and defensive about Watergate......... all these years later.

It`s going to take dozens of generations to live down bush`s treason, it that`s the case.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:11:03 PM   
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NOW he's quoting MSNBC?

Does anyone here have standards???


Wait...

So what?

How does that change the issue.

Any using multiple news sites is somehow wrong?

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:14:22 PM   
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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:17:03 PM   
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NOW he's quoting MSNBC?

Does anyone here have standards???


Wait...

So what?

How does that change the issue.

Any using multiple news sites is somehow wrong?


After months of trashing it, citing it in an OP (as the only source cited) isn't "somehow wrong," just incredibly arbitrary. Don't you think so?

I was assuming people would chuckle to themselves at the irony. I never imagined someone would actually try to defend it, enriching the irony.





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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:17:57 PM   
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This, is a purely political ,partisan witch-hunt......where the hunters also have blood on there hands......




Please...

This was an idiotic idea gone wrong

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:24:08 PM   
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Not an idiotic idea, idiotic execution, on both administrations parts.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:25:11 PM   
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I was assuming people would chuckle to themselves at the irony. I never imagined someone would actually try to defend it, enriching the irony.




No.

It's a news story.

Look... just because a news organization has a political bent, it doesn't mean they cannot still report news.

Plus... it makes sense to you a source like MSNBC... Had he used Fox or Briebart, the focus changes on here.

Maybe you think MSNBC should have reported it in the first place???

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:26:28 PM   
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You would have a good point if you didn't have things completely backward. The real hypocrites are those who all these years have claimed that Iran-Contra was the be-all and the end-all of major scandals, and yet when confronted with the facts of this case can only point their fingers elsewhere to attempt a diversion

Regardless

Whether you are a hypocrite or I am a hypocrite is immaterial

The larger issue is, is our current president guilty of deliberately engaging in acts of terrorism

Else, what is he covering up

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Is that your best defense of Obama taz

That this reeks of Iran-Contra


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After the weapon sales were revealed in November 1986, Reagan appeared on national television and stated that the weapons transfers had indeed occurred, but that the United States did not trade arms for hostages.[9] The investigation was impeded when large volumes of documents relating to the scandal were destroyed or withheld from investigators by Reagan administration officials.[10]







Thats your problem, Sanity, and has been all along. No one is defending Obama. What we are pointing out is the hypocrisy of you and rob, among others.



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:26:30 PM   
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Q: Name the biggest difference between Watergate and F&F
A: No one was killed in Watergate


And no one was killed for F&F. As conservatives (especially the gun nuts on here say....OVER and OVER again): Guns dont kill people, people kill people!

So, either the guns killed the border agent, or a person did. You dont get it both ways.....PICK ONE! It is annoying that a philosophy as the one conservatives have want things both ways, depending on what is the best political slam. Unfortunately for them, they dont get that right!

So, how is that economy plan Romney has? This is a good smoke screen to hide the fact that guy has NOTHING to help the American people.

While we are on the topic, how about explaining WHY executive privilege exists? Isn't it to allow the president to have frank, open and honest conversations with his cabinet? And that the material spoken about must be kept from the public eye due to A) Foreign Issues, B) National Security Threats, and C) Military Issues. Again, the President has issues executive privilage and signing statements FAR LESS than the previous guy in the Oval Office. Why didnt we see such a 'furious' reaction each and every time, then, President George W. Bush, try to past a 'fast' one on the American people? To busy waiting on FOX News to issue easy sound bites and buzz phrases is my guess!

The history of F&F, started during the previous administration. If it was so bad, why was there not a small (if not a big) group of conservatives bitching about the program then?

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:27:59 PM   
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Except that stings with this pattern have been done all over the country for many many years.

Not an idiotic idea, idiotic execution, on both administrations parts.



OK... And Holder is Holding the bag.... tough titties, time for him to man up answer fully to the American people, red ones, blue ones and green ones.


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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:38:59 PM   
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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 2:58:05 PM   
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Except that stings with this pattern have been done all over the country for many many years.

Not an idiotic idea, idiotic execution, on both administrations parts.

OK... And Holder is Holding the bag.... tough titties, time for him to man up answer fully to the American people, red ones, blue ones and green ones.


Just after the whole of the Bush Administration admits then engineered a false war with Iraq over WMDS to give a payoff to many large corporations. Yeah, we were told (by eye witness account, spy photographs, and experts) that Iraq had '...massive stockpiles...' of nuclear, biologoical, and chemical weapons of mass destruction. And that Iraq's true intentions were to use them against America and her allies. As 9/11 was STILL on people's minds at the time (thanks to the great propoganda machine known as FOX News). It made it much easier for that administration to have Americans believe the threat was real and imminient!

And so we blew the country apart and took it over. We lost 4,000+ soldiers, 25,000+ more in various injuries, got 100,000 civilians put to the sword, and sunk $4 Trillion of borrowed money. And we didnt find one nuclear weapon! Heck, the 'stockpiles' we did find were simply laughable compared to what the administration had us believing. While everything that happened with the Iran-Contra scandal or 'Fast & Furious' was...bad....it paled in comparison to what the Bush Admin did to the American people.

And how many conservatives wanted to take the Bush administration (not to mention many members of the Republican Congress) accountable or responsible for the whole thing? NONE OF THEM! What happen with F&F is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what Bush did. If your going to hold Mr. Holder accountable and responsible, than you first hold the Bush administration AND the Republican Congress accountable....FIRST.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 3:24:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Let's first investigate the assclown investigating to insure that he is a fine upstanding american, who is obeying the gun laws and other laws of our land, and is competent to make pronouncements on these mattters:

http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/201006010007
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/rep-darell-issa-american-role-model-c
http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/001007.htm

  • At the same time he railed against the Obama Administration’s green energy initiatives, he sought a Department of Energy loan for a major GOP campaign contributor.
  • He’s continuing to protect his friend Rupert Murdoch by refusing to investigate the NewsCorp scandal, despite calls from his colleagues to do so.
  • His office violated a federal judge’s order by releasing sealed information to the press about an ongoing investigation.



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 3:28:36 PM   
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And how many conservatives wanted to take the Bush administration (not to mention many members of the Republican Congress) accountable or responsible for the whole thing? NONE OF THEM! What happen with F&F is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what Bush did. If your going to hold Mr. Holder accountable and responsible, than you first hold the Bush administration AND the Republican Congress accountable....FIRST.


Gee joe, let's dig up Washington's bones and prosecute him too... If we're going back, let's start at the beginning.


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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 3:36:53 PM   
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It's a news story.

Look... just because a news organization has a political bent, it doesn't mean they cannot still report news.

Plus... it makes sense to use a source like MSNBC.


I'm glad this finally makes sense to people.

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