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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 3:56:02 PM   
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And how many conservatives wanted to take the Bush administration (not to mention many members of the Republican Congress) accountable or responsible for the whole thing? NONE OF THEM! What happen with F&F is a tiny drop in the bucket compared to what Bush did. If your going to hold Mr. Holder accountable and responsible, than you first hold the Bush administration AND the Republican Congress accountable....FIRST.

Gee joe, let's dig up Washington's bones and prosecute him too... If we're going back, let's start at the beginning.


For what? He hasnt done anything in the last two decades!

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 4:41:51 PM   
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For what? He hasnt done anything in the last two decades!



Why put a limit on it? I'm sure we can DIG up some dirt on Washington. (pun intended) You're the one hell bent on the past, well lets go... All the way back... Why stop at 1992?

You do realize that if you tried to go after Bush, Obama would pardon him in a heartbeat, dontcha?

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 5:20:01 PM   
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Just like Bush did with those before him. Come on, its all politics. Hell yeah I want to know the truth.... there are some truths I dont need to know.

Bush can be demonized for many things.

So can Reagan.

So can Nixon.

Hell, so can Washington, Lincoln, Jefferson.

Lets have a chat about the games politicans play... ALL of them play.

The fact that you wish to demonize Obama for what every President has done.. and wish to ONLY demonize Obama IS your hypocrisy.


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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 5:21:04 PM   
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LOL, and I am sure he could give a fuck less.


That he got people killed


It amazes me that the only Mexicans that are important are the ones illegally in the country. The hundreds that have been killed in Mexico due to F&F, can just go rot. (Well, I suppose that is what dead bodies do.) But, they are certainly not important.


I think that they should de-fund the Department of Justice for as long as Eric Holder remains AG.


What confuses me is why Mr. Obama would need to invoke Executive Privilege to prevent Issa's committee from knowing WHY Holder lied to them.

Which is worse? Perjury or contempt? One would think that Mr. Holder would want to clear his name.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 5:22:34 PM   
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I don't have a problem with that. But first The Obamanistas need to come clean and shoot themselves. Then I'm willing to put Bush and Cheney on trial for war crimes. After that we can try Clinton and Reno then we all get naked dance around to kume-bye-ya and piss on Nixons grave.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 6:18:09 PM   
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The funny thing is that executive privilege is for the executive

Not for the Department of (ahem) Justice

And Obama has said that he never knew about F&F until he read about it in the news

So either our little floppy-eared constitutional scholar doesnt know what executive privilege means, how it applies

Or he lied about his involvement

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It amazes me that the only Mexicans that are important are the ones illegally in the country. The hundreds that have been killed in Mexico due to F&F, can just go rot. (Well, I suppose that is what dead bodies do.) But, they are certainly not important.


I think that they should de-fund the Department of Justice for as long as Eric Holder remains AG.


What confuses me is why Mr. Obama would need to invoke Executive Privilege to prevent Issa's committee from knowing WHY Holder lied to them.

Which is worse? Perjury or contempt? One would think that Mr. Holder would want to clear his name.



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 6:27:57 PM   
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In reply to the OP

It's the cover-up that gets them. I wonder if President Obama even knows what he's helping hide.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 6:51:04 PM   
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Nope......it was the initial conspiracy,the burglaries,the thefts,etc. that "got them"..............beyond stealing, lying and cheat the election......


You guys can`t even tell normal folks what wrong-doing was committed or have ANY evidence of a cover up.


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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:06:33 PM   
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If he doesnt know by now what is going on....wether its hiding something or not. he has sunk himself.


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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:14:28 PM   
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Who has?

How?


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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:21:25 PM   
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Ok Owner... Plausible Deniability only goes so far.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:23:22 PM   
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Meh....it`s just politics......

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:24:51 PM   
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I said If he doesnt know by now what is happening, ...it was in response to Rich...not you, but I had a glitch...bloody collarchat is still acting up for me

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:26:53 PM   
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I said If he doesnt know by now what is happening, ...it was in response to Rich...not you, but I had a glitch...bloody collarchat is still acting up for me


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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:27:18 PM   
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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:55:46 PM   
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FR -

This really belongs in my thread about consistently inconsistent leftists

But...

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2007, from an interview with CNN’s Larry King:

KING: “Do you favor executive privilege or should Karl Rove and others in that position be forced to testify before the House or Senate? (On Bush’s administration and executive privilege)

OBAMA: “Well, you know, I think we’ll — we’ll determine over the next several weeks how this administration responds to the very appropriate call by Patrick Leahy, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, to have these individuals come in and testify. You know, there’s been a tendency on the part of this administration to — to try to hide behind executive privilege every time there’s something a little shaky that’s taking place. And I think, you know, the administration would be best served by coming clean on this. There doesn’t seem to be any national security issues involved with the U.S. attorney question. There doesn’t seem to be any justification for not offering up some clear, plausible rationale for why these — these U.S. attorneys were targeted when, by all assessments, they were doing an outstanding job. I think the American people deserve to know what was going on there.”



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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 7:56:46 PM   
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If he doesnt know by now what is going on....wether its hiding something or not. he has sunk himself.





He's extremely insulated, Lucy.

I don't know that this would, or could, sink his reelection. If the fuck-up had been owned up to, it would be an anecdote by now, an easy lay-up for partisan discussion, but meaningless in the big picture. Now, moving this way, it only adds to the perception that he fancies the Imperial Presidency, and that just might sink him, in the middle, where it matters.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 8:23:06 PM   
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I get that hes insulated Rich, with a kajillion things going on that need his attention, he has to be to a certain extent, but this is not a new or unimportant situation, and he has had ayear to become aquainted with it.Im in no way making excuses for him. I find it more than troubling, public perception even from rational supporters (not just his rabid haters) find this troubling,it certainly isnt a political electioneering strategy.
This isnt gonna go away , and will affect his chances, badly when it is played up as being "hiding the truth from the people of the US"
Anyone who believes otherwise, is more insulated than the Prez.
but thats just my 2 cents.
I do believe its been part of US secret squirrel stuff since the 50s but now its come to a head.
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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/20/2012 9:29:37 PM   
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Nixon tried this claim during Watergate, it didn't work.

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RE: AG Holder Hides Behind Obama's Skirt - 6/21/2012 5:27:11 AM   
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A good primer on the scandal for those who are unfamiliar with it, which also briefly touches on how Nixonian the coverup has become

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100166854/the-fast-and-furious-scandal-is-turning-into-president-obamas-watergate/



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