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What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 6:32:31 PM

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Very important news from the increasingly entwined worlds of dressage horsery and Presidential politics — Ann Romney was once sued for fraud after selling a horse that a veteranarian described as pumped full of more pain killers than he'd ever seen pumped into any horse, ever. In other words, Ann had herself a High Little Pony.

The lawsuit was filed in 2010, after a California woman purchased a horse (unfortunately) named "Super Hit" from Romney and Romney's Horse Training All Star Team (Please have matching Team Romney jackets with shiny silver star patches. Please have matching Team Romney jackets with shiny silver star patches.). When Super Hit was examined by a vet to verify his presale physical condition, the vet found that Super Hit was Super High on a positively Limbaughesque cocktail of painkillers. The vet testified, "In my 38 years of practice, I have never come across a drug screen such as this where the horse has been administered so many different medications at the same time." The jilted Super Hit buyer alleges that the painkillers were administered by Team Romney in an attempt to disguise the horse's bum foot, which made it impossible for the horse to perform feats necessary for dressage. Unleash the lawyers!

According to Buzzfeed, the case involving Romney was settled last fall, and her involvement in the case ended.

What is it with the Romney family and treating domesticated pets in ways that could be interpreted, at best, as clueless rich people ineffectuality and at worst as symptoms of a nearly sociopathic dearth of empathy? Whatever's going on between the Romney ears, let's hope that they work it out before a reporter discovers the White House cat tripping balls in the Rose Garden.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 6:48:46 PM

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The horse LOVED riding on top of the car and would climb up their itself........

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 7:17:41 PM

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But they don't flay themselves and jump on the grill for hungry little Indonesian children.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 7:19:43 PM

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I wonder

Does Obama eat horse

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 7:34:28 PM

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I wonder

Does Obama eat horse

Probably thinks it's "tough" too.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 7:34:29 PM

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Does Obama eat horse

I don't know. Many people do. Folks also eat insects and ostriches and deer and, yes, even dogs. Obama, as a kid, followed the norms of the culture in which he lived. Why the same food is prized in one culture and taboo in another is a fascinating riddle of human life.

I don't, though, know of any culture in which it's a norm to strap a dog atop a speeding car and leave it there until the terrified animal voids its bowels.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 8:02:12 PM

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...the terrified animal

Cuz I'm sure the dog O'Fuckup scarfed down wasn't at all "terrified" while its throat was being cut prior to cooking/eating it. One truly has to marvel at the sheer stupidity of the LibRat mind -- clearly a birth-defect.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 8:24:33 PM

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...the terrified animal

Cuz I'm sure the dog O'Fuckup scarfed down wasn't at all "terrified" while its throat was being cut prior to cooking/eating it. One truly has to marvel at the sheer stupidity of the LibRat mind -- clearly a birth-defect.

Are you a vegetarian? If not, every animal you eat was killed before you ate it. (Raw oysters are the exception as they're still alive when you down em yummmm)

I don't see this as a cruelty to animals thread so much as a outright fraudulent business dealing thread.
Druggng a dressage horse before you sell it in an attempt to hide injury is fraud, no more no less.
Those who engage in fraud for monetary gain are morally inferior.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 8:32:26 PM

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Are you a vegetarian? If not, every animal you eat was killed before you ate it. (Raw oysters are the exception as they're still alive when you down em yummmm)

I don't see this as a cruelty to animals thread so much as a outright fraudulent business dealing thread.
Druggng a dressage horse before you sell it in an attempt to hide injury is fraud, no more no less.
Those who engage in fraud for monetary gain are morally inferior.

I think we should wait for a link to a legit source before we take this seriously... Just sayin'

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 8:39:07 PM

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The fact is, the sale of this horse was fraudulent.
Ms Romney tried to pull a fast one. Kind of have to wonder about the honesty of a person who would pull a stunt like that, while professing to be religious, yet.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 8:40:53 PM

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Subrob, google it yourself. Court records are public after all. Just sayin'

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 8:59:20 PM

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I think we`re getting it......committing pre-meditated fraud and animal cruelty (as adults) is ok because the 3rd world eats bugs, dogs and horses and other critters.....

I see the republicans are enjoying their new candidate and warming up to him nicely..........

I`m getting the feeling that cons are getting weary and afraid of the next WTF story about Mittens.......the way they were with bush.

That`s one of the things that has earned my respect for President Obama......I don`t have to worry about reading the news........

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 9:01:24 PM

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
Are you a vegetarian? If not, every animal you eat was killed before you ate it. (Raw oysters are the exception as they're still alive when you down em yummmm)

I don't see this as a cruelty to animals thread so much as a outright fraudulent business dealing thread.
Druggng a dressage horse before you sell it in an attempt to hide injury is fraud, no more no less.
Those who engage in fraud for monetary gain are morally inferior.

I think we should wait for a link to a legit source before we take this seriously... Just sayin'

http://www.ventura.courts.ca.gov/via/CaseInformationSummary.aspx?CaseNo=56-2010-00372707-CU-FR-SIM

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/20120527_Ann_Romney_has_pricey_passion_for_horseback_riding_.html
SELLING THE HORSE

Though Romney loved the horse, calling him “Soupy,” she decided to sell him in late 2007. Riding him, though meant to soothe her multiple sclerosis, had in fact become painful. “I frequently was getting back spasms when I rode Soupy,” she said.

The eventual buyer was a horsewoman named Catherine Norris, who lived near Seattle at the time. Ebeling, she later said, called Super Hit “the soundest horse in the barn.”

Before writing a check, Norris sought a standard prepurchase exam. The Ebelings recommended a veterinarian they knew, Dr. Doug Herthel, who identified the joint abnormality on an X-ray. He informed Norris of it but assured her it would not bar him from the upper-level show ring.

But Herthel apparently did not mention that a toxicology test reported four tranquilizers in Super Hit’s blood at the time of the exam. His records showed that he injected two of the drugs — to steady Super Hit during X-rays, he testified — but there was no documentation of the other two tranquilizers.

Herthel sent an email to Amy Ebeling asking if the horse had been sedated before the exam; she replied that he had not. How the additional tranquilizers got into the animal was never fully established. A lawyer for Herthel, Steve Schwartz, said the drug laboratory’s tests were not definitive.

But veterinary experts unconnected with the case questioned the circumstances. “The presence of all those medications makes interpretation of the exam null and void,” said Dr. Carolyn Weinberg, a board member of the American Association of Equine Practitioners. She and others said tranquilizers could mask problems.

“They can affect the gait of the horse,” said Dr. Harry Werner, the chairman of animal welfare for the equine association. “They have the potential to obscure a subtle lameness.”

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 9:02:20 PM

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...the terrified animal

Cuz I'm sure the dog O'Fuckup scarfed down wasn't at all "terrified" while its throat was being cut prior to cooking/eating it. One truly has to marvel at the sheer stupidity of the LibRat mind -- clearly a birth-defect.

Are you a vegetarian?

No... and I'm also not the one who started this bitching about the supposed "terrified animal" either.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 9:09:03 PM

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I am not a vegetarian either. I am a vegan. Reading all of this ignorance sickens me. Watch, learn, read, educate, and stop removing yourselves from reality.

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 9:17:06 PM

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The Romneys declared a loss of $77,000 on their 2010 tax returns for the share in the care and feeding of Rafalca, which Mrs. Romney owns with Mr. Ebeling’s wife, Amy, and a family friend, Beth Meyers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/17/us/politics/horse-co-owned-by-ann-romney-earns-a-spot-on-the-olympic-dressage-team.html?_r=3&smid=tw-nytimespolitics&seid=auto

A tax write off , almost double the average wage of a USA worker(43k$)

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 9:30:17 PM

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Look at the up side.

The Romneys own the world`s #1 dressage horse.........

Duh!

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 9:42:57 PM

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I wonder how much the tax write off will be for paying off the judges!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/23/2012 9:55:58 PM

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The Romneys declared a loss of $77,000 on their 2010 tax returns...

A tax write off , almost double the average wage of a USA worker (43k$)

And... <drum roll>... O'Fuckup declared a loss of $119,527 on their 2011 Tax Return -- or almost TRIPLE "the average wage of a USA worker" at $43k.

Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/POTUS_taxes.pdf

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RE: What is it with the Romneys and animals? - 6/24/2012 1:30:21 AM

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I think this is first and foremost about fraud.
When you hear about a drugged horse being
sold the usual reason is an attempt to disguise
injury. I think this example and the dog on
top of the car put the Romney's judgement
into question as much as their ethical of
treatment of animals in their care.
The Romney's and the Obama'a are all meat
eaters. That there are cultures that eat horse
and dog flesh is a given but the consuming
of horse, dog, cow or any other animal has
nothing to do with this story or the family
dog story. The ethics of eating meat eating
and it's various quandaries concerning
slaughterhouses and farm factories and which
animals we deem suitable to eat or not have
nothing to do with this story or the family
dog story.
This horse story is about whether they were trying
to sell and profit an animals whose condition
they were trying to disguise. That people of
their wealth and disposable income felt the
need to do this instead of just writing the
horse off and putting it to pasture is another
aspect of it.
Outside of the trauma of what the dog went
through on the roof of that car I think that
story puts Romney's judgement into
question more than anything.
Most people going on vacation factor in
what to do with the family pets before
they're pulling out of the driveway.
They make plans for the pet to be
kenneled or for someone to look after
it. If the pet is going with the family this
decided beforehand and some thought is
put into how the animal will travel.
If it's a rather large animal, I believe this
was a Irish Wolfhound or Setter, most
people realize some thought and
preparation will be involved.
Romney's solution born out of seeming
last minute carelessness was to strap
the animal to the roof of the car like a
canoe.
Careless, last minute thinking. Shoddy
planning. Needless suffering. A gamble
taken on a creatures life. Not to mention
the other lives that could have been
impacted on the highway had the dog
been thrown from the roof of the car.
The dog story is not nothing, it's not just
whinging from dog lovers. It offers insight
into Romney's character and judgement.
So does this horse story. Knowingly and
deliberately perpetuating fraud is what
it is essentially about. Not ethically small
potatoes by any stretch. As Nixon said
people have a right to know if their president
is a crook. A potential president in this
case. Is he? Facts look about damning.
Of course I suppose Willard could claim
lack of knowledge. He can claim that about
so many things.

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