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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/14/2012 6:21:28 PM   
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Since the other side has been asked so often I have to ask how many would be so hot for Zimmermans conviction if he was black and Martin were hispanic.
I know what you would have to tell me but ask yourselves this question. There are a few out there to whom the answer would be that if the races were reveresed they wouldn't even pay attention or would be defending Zimmerman. If that doesn't apply to you it wasn't aimed at you. igor2003 this was not intended to be a response to anyone the system just labeled it that way.


What got folks rightly upset, was it taking weeks and weeks before any action was taken .Action that would not have been taken without normal folks demanding it.....you know....the lynch mob as you called those parents,grand-parents and others protesting.

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/14/2012 9:30:28 PM   
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What got folks rightly upset, was it taking weeks and weeks before any action was taken .Action that would not have been taken without normal folks demanding it.....you know....the lynch mob as you called those parents,grand-parents and others protesting.



And the reason action wasn't taken was that the investigators didn't feel there was enough evidence to bring charges. The investigation was still ongoing.

I've seen one lawyer point out that if the protests started by Crump hiring a PR firm didn't cause the State to rush the investigation and bring charges, the State might have actually had some evidence against George.

So when the inevitable acquittal comes, part if it might be the fault of Crump for trying to make the State rush an ongoing investigation.

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/15/2012 8:12:38 AM   
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What got folks rightly upset, was it taking weeks and weeks before any action was taken .Action that would not have been taken without normal folks demanding it.....you know....the lynch mob as you called those parents,grand-parents and others protesting.



And the reason action wasn't taken was that the investigators didn't feel there was enough evidence to bring charges. The investigation was still ongoing.

I've seen one lawyer point out that if the protests started by Crump hiring a PR firm didn't cause the State to rush the investigation and bring charges, the State might have actually had some evidence against George.

So when the inevitable acquittal comes, part if it might be the fault of Crump for trying to make the State rush an ongoing investigation.



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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/15/2012 10:13:13 AM   
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What got folks rightly upset, was it taking weeks and weeks before any action was taken .Action that would not have been taken without normal folks demanding it.....you know....the lynch mob as you called those parents,grand-parents and others protesting.


Yesterday a man was killed by police in Md as they tried to arrest him for attempted murder committed a month ago, Why no outrage about that? If it is outrage because the cops moved slow the should be marches in every city in the country every day.


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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/15/2012 10:46:45 AM   
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Did Zimmerman have the inside track on his investgation?

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/0714/Trayvon-Martin-case-s-mystery-man-George-Zimmerman-s-cop-connection

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/15/2012 11:37:28 AM   
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This guy was with him that night....at the scene of the killing......and at every interrogation, meeting and appearance.

Taught George to shoot and says George isn`t street-smart....whatever that means.I think we know now tho.

He`s also a federal LEO.


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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/15/2012 6:23:22 PM   
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To simply refer to Martin as "the kid" is probably minimizing his life more than the discussion is, and I seriously doubt that he would think too much one way or another about his "legacy" at the age of 17.

Also, the discussion is less about Martin, himself, and more about Zimmerman, his actions, his attitude, and the various laws surrounding the case that seem to be being used in a morally and ethically corrupt way, which is NOT to say that Martin's death wasn't a tragedy.


It's an age range. As a senior citizen yourself, you probably think of Me as a kid. Am I supposed to get offended when you are old enough to be My father and recognize that fact?

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And last, to have someone with 21,000+ posts in less than 5 1/2 years come into a Zimmerman thread, or any other thread, and talk about how other people are somehow wasting their lives by posting there is kind of hypocritical, especially considering some of the rather pointless threads that I have seen you post on. I'll tell you what...I won't come into any of the threads you enjoy posting on and complain about how you are wasting your time if you can show the same courtesy to other people.

Yes, because My post count on THOUSANDS of subjects is the same thing. I didn't harp the same drum for six months trying to prove what I had to say on any one particular matter.

Is there anyone on this thread who has been able to walk away from it for a week?

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Okay, so "it's going to happen." But it still makes you more guilty of "minimizing" Martin than the other people that are frequenting the thread. At "almost 44" you should be adult enough to admit that.

No, it doesn't. It means if this person was in My life, I would treat him like anyone else. Every friend of either of My children are in this age range, and YES, I call them "kid". White, black, Jew, Gentile, straight, gay, trans, or fucking purple pokka dot. Maybe, if you had kids of your own, you'd see it the same way.

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This thread and all of the others on the same subject remind Me of the OJ trial. So what if it reminds you of the OJ trial? If you don't like the content of the thread then don't bother reading it. If someone is holding a gun to your head and making you read something you don't want to read, then let me know and I'll send the police right over to protect you.

Oh, and if you're going to pull the "you aren't courteous" card with Me, I would suggest that you rethink your approach. Truth hurts, doesn't it? The simple fact is, if you expect people to extend you courtesy you need to BE courteous yourself and not get so butt hurt when you get called on your BS. You're the one that dealt the hand, so you need to learn to live with whatever cards show up.

This comment is the most stupid of them all. When people's lives are so empty as to follow this trial to the point it becomes an obsession, the best advice that anybody can give is to take a break. Which, frankly, is exactly what I said.

Lean back in that recliner that you call life now. Good boy.


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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/15/2012 7:18:59 PM   
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Are you judged by the company you keep? Well as many know, Zimmerman friend who taught him to shoot is an Air Marshall, also a former Deputy Sheriff who was fired. If you look at Zimmerman leaving the County Jail, the person in the back with sun glasses on his forehead is Mark Osterman. I am going to assume Zimmerman is staying with Osterman again. Anyway here is some information about the Air Marshall service.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173340/Revealed-The-ex-cop-best-friend-taught-George-Zimmerman-shoot-hid-weeks-Trayvon-Martin-shooting-accompanies-police-interrogation.html

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-12-07-air-marshals_x.htm

http://www.propublica.org/article/air-marshals-undercover-and-under-arrest-1113

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 3:27:52 AM   
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Some photos of Osterman just showed up from a nearby ATM 40 minutes before Trayvon Martin was killed. I think it's time to start interrogating Osterman to discover his whereabouts and what role he had. Did Osterman and Zimmerman get together that night, and if so, how come Zimmerman hasn't mentioned it?

Did Osterman hit the ATM right before meeting Zimmerman so that he would have money to buy drugs or something? All of a sudden, "I went to the store" is starting to appear kind weak....

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 11:02:30 AM   
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Is there any conspiracy therory you don't believe?

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 12:41:06 PM   
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If Martin had been a mollusc and Zimmerman is an octopus, then I would root for the one who had been aggressively attacked.

Who would you root for - and why?

The one who wasn't tooled up, because they hadn't started a fight that they couldn't possibly lose.

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 4:46:50 PM   
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Is there any conspiracy therory you don't believe?


All Zimmerman has to do is answer the questions while under oath, and all the speculation will be ended.

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 5:02:12 PM   
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Wow. Just in case you forgot what a fine piece of work George Zimmerman is, http://www.kalw.org/post/woman-accuses-george-zimmerman-molesting-her-years

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 5:15:23 PM   
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answer the questions while under oath, and all the speculation will be ended.
answer the questions while under oath, and all the speculation will be ended.
answer the questions while under oath, and all the speculation will be ended.
answer the questions while under oath, and all the speculation will be ended.
answer the questions while under oath, and all the speculation will be ended.
answer the questions while under oath, and all the speculation will be ended

all the speculation will be ended
all the speculation will be ended
all the speculation will be ended
all the speculation will be ended
all the speculation will be ended
all the speculation will be ended

happy days

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 5:36:57 PM   
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Wow. Just in case you forgot what a fine piece of work George Zimmerman is, http://www.kalw.org/post/woman-accuses-george-zimmerman-molesting-her-years

It seems to me that even if true, it is not relevant to the case. Besides: people may change.

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 5:42:59 PM   
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Wow. Just in case you forgot what a fine piece of work George Zimmerman is, http://www.kalw.org/post/woman-accuses-george-zimmerman-molesting-her-years

It seems to me that even if true, it is not relevant to the case. Besidguiltes: people may change.


Accusation/=guilt
Could be somone triyng to get attention.

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 5:45:39 PM   
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In reply to LadyPact.

I won't bother responding to all the gibberish in your last post.

You didn't come to this thread to participate in the discussion.  You came for no other reason than to throw rocks.  You threw rocks at the topic, and you threw rocks at the participants, then you didn't like it when those rocks were thrown back.  Grow up.

And with that I won't assist you any further in your attempt to derail the thread.

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 6:15:13 PM   
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Wow. Just in case you forgot what a fine piece of work George Zimmerman is, http://www.kalw.org/post/woman-accuses-george-zimmerman-molesting-her-years

It seems to me that even if true, it is not relevant to the case. Besidguiltes: people may change.


Accusation/=guilt
Could be somone triyng to get attention.


I don't think Zimmerman would have publicly apologized if it was just her trying for attention, do you?

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 6:45:42 PM   
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Wow. Just in case you forgot what a fine piece of work George Zimmerman is, http://www.kalw.org/post/woman-accuses-george-zimmerman-molesting-her-years


This maybe valid, the story has also been reported in another newspaper

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0716/George-Zimmerman-s-cousin-accuses-him-of-sexual-molestation

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RE: George Zimmerman Update... - 7/16/2012 8:48:57 PM   
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Wow. Just in case you forgot what a fine piece of work George Zimmerman is, http://www.kalw.org/post/woman-accuses-george-zimmerman-molesting-her-years

It seems to me that even if true, it is not relevant to the case. Besidguiltes: people may change.


Accusation/=guilt
Could be somone triyng to get attention.


I don't think Zimmerman would have publicly apologized if it was just her trying for attention, do you?

Regardless something that happened when he was a minor can't be held against him 20years later in an unrelated case. By your own words a minor can't be held to the standard of an adult in particular a 7 year old.

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