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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

The Liberal Plan is the Nanny State.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

The Liberal Plan is the Nanny State.

And exactly what is the Republican plan?

You hate the liberal plan so much....

Offer up the alternative.

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

The Liberal Plan is the Nanny State.

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Why? Pointing out the destructiveness of the liberal plan holds no requirement to anything else. Pointing out that the plan of holding a lit stick of dynamite is self-destructive holds no requirement to offering an alternative.

Besides, any plan offered that does not comport to liberal desires shall be summarily dismissed. The Borg collective of Star Trek fame is a perfect example of liberal mentality. "You shall be assimilated. Resistance is futile."

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie
The Liberal Plan is the Nanny State.

And exactly what is the Republican plan?

You hate the liberal plan so much....

Offer up the alternative.

Or is there one?

Could he offer up a plan that he likes, but liberals would like to? A full plan, not 'half-baked'. A plan that covers the internal and external problems. A plan that takes short term and long term financial, economic, and legal problems into study, with solid and well backed research into account. A plan that asked the question "What happens if things dont work as plan" and gives prudent and wise answers. A plan to which Americans of every skin, eye, hair, and oh yes, blood color can agree to (cus Republicans have green blood apparently.....). Where the majority are helped and the minority are not marginizalized or removed; but give protections. The rich do not grow richer and the poor do not become poorer. A plan that takes into account what we know so far from science, research, development, philosophy and history. And does NOT screw around with the Constitution so much, that the plan is forever costing us legal money in a billion court cases of every color, shape and flavor.

Your really think Yachtie is really capacible to achieve such a notion on his own?

....Good Luck....

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You people are Utopians. You really are.

I at you.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Many of us were waiting, hoping, for something workable to get this country back on its feet.

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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Many of us were waiting, hoping, for something workable to get this country back on its feet.

Won't happen as the goals have been so radically changed. What you seek is the path to actualize the desired paradigm. I.e., joether -

A full plan, not 'half-baked'.
A plan that covers the internal and external problems.
A plan that takes short term and long term financial, economic, and legal problems into study, with solid and well backed research into account.
A plan that asked the question "What happens if things dont work as plan" and gives prudent and wise answers.
A plan to which Americans of every skin, eye, hair, and oh yes, blood color can agree to (cus Republicans have green blood apparently.....).
[A plan] Where the majority are helped and the minority are not marginizalized or removed; but give protections.
[A plan where] The rich do not grow richer and the poor do not become poorer.
A plan that takes into account what we know so far from science, research, development, philosophy and history.
[A plan that] does NOT screw around with the Constitution so much, that the plan is forever costing us legal money in a billion court cases of every color, shape and flavor.

If you don't see the desire for a blueprint society there then you don't know what is being sought. The contradictions are astounding.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No, I asked YOU for the GOP plan.

Where is it? Where is the alternative?

Where is the Republican plan in opposition to the Democratic one?

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You'll not find answers till you abandon what does not work.

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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Meanwhile I'm also wondering why Republicans today are falling over themselves to criticize the ACA. The very idea of a universal mandate was THEIR fucking idea. Talk about moving the goalposts!

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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You'll not find answers till you abandon what does not work.

Then why are the Pubs hot to further expand the military beyond what the Pentagon wants and further cut taxes, both moves completely unfunded, when that's what got us here?

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ORIGINAL: SadistDave

There are actually several different plans to a conservative approach to health care reform that have been around for years. Here are some of the main items that were brought up by conservatives in 2009

* allow health insurance to be sold across state lines to bring down the cost of insurance through competitive markets.
* tort reform to bring down the actual cost of medical care by eliminating trivial and fraudulent lawsuits against doctors and hospitals.
* reforming the rules governing medical research to get drugs on the market faster making them less expensive.
* allowing for people to have tax free medical savings accounts.

Libs don't like any of these things because they ultimately mean that people have to take responsibility for their own health care decisions. It is far more convenient for them to perpetuate the lie that conservatives have no plan than it is to debate them about the issue. That's why, when the libs had the House, the Senate, and the Oval Office, they had to run their bill through before anyone had time to read it, let alone discuss the merits and issues with the bill. Obamacare would have never survived an honest debate.

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