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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:11:10 PM   
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not gonna be a spelling nazi, he was stark staring bonkers...
Putting Caligula and Obama together is like saying doris day was a nazi hit queen

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:11:13 PM   
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LOL not on my timetable bubba.
you made the assertion he raped a teenage girl...
Now where were we...




Aw, gee. You are smarter than many of our domestic libbies and O'bots though.

We were at a member of Congress forcing himself on (raping) a teenage girl in her own home, Lucy.

You may also recall that I was asking Ron about it, in light of his toe-tapping fixation, before you offered him some skirt to hide behind.

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:17:37 PM   
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Big phoney........

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:17:54 PM   
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Ron doesnt need my skirt...ever... nobody does, I just called you on your bullshit
You said rape. you didnt say forcing himself on her, you didnt say he sexually assaulted her and nobody else has... you said rape then changed goalposts. You are simply WRONG .....Own it.
Be ONE of the republicans I can at least respect SOME of the time.


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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:29:50 PM   
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Lucy, if I'm still saying rape, how are the goalposts moved? I get that you had an entirely different civics class, but surely your school covered synonyms?

Congressman David Wu, Democrat, Oregon (Lake Ego) was forced to resign when a long pattern of disturbing behaviors culminated in accusations from the teenage daughter of a long-time donor came to light.

Maybe I'm wrong, but weren't you among those chiming in to call internal sonograms, rape, when it suited the talking points of the day to smear Republicans?

IIRC, and I ain't Googling the whole shit up again (try "TheWeek," if you want t tell me what bits I got wrong), Wu pinned the girl, and took her, in her home. I want to say he got her on the washing machine, but I'm not sure.

That's fucking rape, Lucy, and if you won't call it that, then you have sold your soul to political party you aren't even eliglble to vote for.

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:39:53 PM   
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The conservatives everywhere seem to be a bit uneasy and restless, especially with the last couple of Romney leakages. They can't fix Romney, so they'll bash Obama. Liberals, get used to it...especially if Mitt has been dipping in the pot in other places too and the democrats find out.

Me? I'm hanging out with the Hippy Peace Freaks (when I'm not being nosy over here lol).

Edited to add...Tazzy, I'll bring some melted butter for the popcorn, or do you think maybe caramel?

Those Hippy Peace Freaks, weren't they the ones who believed that if you are not with the one you love... love the one you're with ?

There's a name for that but I've forgotten and I am lazy right now.

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:45:47 PM   
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Getting back to the OP, having the Secretary rewrite the TANF rules to start passing out (our children's) taxpayer cash in the run-up to the election does seem a little shady.

Assuming the thread survives, I will try make time to get back and explain how this might work, but tonight is not going to be that time.


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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 8:56:54 PM   
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You are gonna have to prove your source Because in the 20+ links I perused, It didnt give any details about there being penetration, even from fox and michelle malkin, redstate and a christian ministry site, let alone all the oregonian links... so Im sorry
I dont believe you.
He is/was a jerk, not someone I would wish to be aligned with and Im certainly not saying he isnt a prime douchebag,But it doesnt make him a rapist.
Guilty of sexual assault, most likely, guilty of sexual harrassment, lech asshole dirty old man, dick head and wanker, and a whole lot of other names, but the rape charge is YOURS.
Damn straight invasion of a vagina with a probe, that is state mandated rape.
Im done... with the hijack at least.



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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 9:09:36 PM   
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Im done...



At least until you look in the mirror in the morning...

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 9:11:37 PM   
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At least I can look in mine with no qualms

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 9:18:16 PM   
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Keep telling yourself that, Lucy.

Meanwhile, the whiskey has worked, and it might be time for a little more medicine. Perhaps I can't do a vacation right now, but I can get fucked up enough to forget where I am.

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 9:34:19 PM   
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"Mitt Romney, Other Top Republicans Slam Welfare Change That Republicans Sought"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/13/mitt-romney-welfare-change_n_1672173.html

This is what cons call leadership these days.......?



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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 9:41:28 PM   
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Those Hippy Peace Freaks, weren't they the ones who believed that if you are not with the one you love... love the one you're with ?

There's a name for that but I've forgotten and I am lazy right now.


They were. And you'd also find them Groovin on a Sunday afternoon a lot, too.


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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 9:51:58 PM   
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IIRC, and I ain't Googling the whole shit up again (try "TheWeek," if you want t tell me what bits I got wrong), Wu pinned the girl, and took her, in her home. I want to say he got her on the washing machine, but I'm not sure.


The bit you just posted. There is nothing that I can find on that site that states he pinned her against the wall and 'took her'. His behavior was deplorable.. and I do believe I spoke out about it at the time. However, aligning him to those who have been convicted, or plead guilty, to the rapes of minors is comparing apples to oranges.

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/13/2012 10:31:52 PM   
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You`re implying he claimed to be rational,there Tazz...


Now please show us where he said that?


We all know that ideology trumps every law of reality and norm w/ dick.


Even the law of gravity.......which would explain why the world`s upside down.......falling flat on one`s face constantly


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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/14/2012 3:35:10 AM   
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IIRC, and I ain't Googling the whole shit up again (try "TheWeek," if you want t tell me what bits I got wrong), Wu pinned the girl, and took her, in her home. I want to say he got her on the washing machine, but I'm not sure.


The bit you just posted. There is nothing that I can find on that site that states he pinned her against the wall and 'took her'. His behavior was deplorable.. and I do believe I spoke out about it at the time. However, aligning him to those who have been convicted, or plead guilty, to the rapes of minors is comparing apples to oranges.


The thread discussing it was http://www.collarchat.com/m_3781874/mpage_1/tm.htm



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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/14/2012 5:50:00 AM   
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back to the topic ... this appeared in the Huffnpoo yesterday, now I know the OH wont go to the link so Im posting here..
WASHINGTON -- Mitt Romney and a slew of other leading Republicans on Friday slammed the Obama administration's decision to relax some welfare requirements, despite the fact that Republican-led states sought the policy change.

The move, announced Thursday by the Department of Health and Human Services, allows states to request waivers to the work requirements spelled out in the 1996 welfare reform. A work requirement would remain, but the idea is to let states and localities have flexibility administering it so they can experiment with ways to improve the number of people making the jump from government assistance to jobs -- something many states would like.

Democrats also wanted the change, but GOP-led Utah and Nevada were the states most aggressively seeking it, submitting detailed requests to Health and Human Services.

Still, sparked by scathing criticism of the move by the conservative Heritage Foundation, a legion of top Republicans quickly condemned the step as some sort of partisan scam hatched by President Barack Obama.

"President Obama now wants to strip the established work requirements from welfare," Romney said in a statement. "The success of bipartisan welfare reform, passed under President Clinton, has rested on the obligation of work. The President's action is completely misdirected. Work is a dignified endeavor, and the linkage of work and welfare is essential to prevent welfare from becoming a way of life."

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) was just as scornful in his statement.

"While President Clinton worked with Congress in a bipartisan way on welfare reform and economic opportunity, President Obama has routinely ignored Republican proposals, rejected House-passed jobs bills, and imposed an agenda that’s helped keep the unemployment rate above eight percent for 41 months," Boehner said. "Welfare reform was an historic, bipartisan success -- this move by the Obama administration is a partisan disgrace."

Even Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch (R) complained in a joint statement with Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.) that the HHS decision was a "power grab." The two are the top Republicans on the committees that oversee welfare programs.

The 1996 welfare reform transformed Aid to Dependent Families with Children into Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or TANF. Congress changed the program from a federal entitlement to block grants, giving states flexibility to craft their own plans within some specific parameters, including work requirements for beneficiaries.

Conservatives on the campaign trail and in Congress have made welfare a rallying cry in the past year. Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum touted welfare reform in the Republican primaries, and House Republican budget guru Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) has said he wants to overhaul government safety nets with "welfare reform round 2."

Nevermind that Republican administrations in two states are unsatisfied with welfare reform round 1.

In February of 2011, Kristen Cox, executive director of Utah Workforce Services, testified to the House Ways and Means Committee that employment programs could use greater flexibility. "If unemployment is one of our largest issues, why not give states more flexible options to help re-employ job seekers?"

Just two weeks later, the Obama administration ordered the executive branch agencies to start looking for ways to help states identify and overcome barriers in federal programs that prevent states from doing the best job.

Utah responded with a string of requests, including for flexibility in administering the work requirements in the TANF program, better known as welfare.

"Utah is especially interested in the development of waiver authority in the TANF grant," said a document prepared by the state Department of Workforce Services in July 2011. "Utah has the desire to expend TANF dollars in the most efficient and effective manner supporting the kind of services and activities that promote initial employment, wage progression, and employment retention."

The state's argument was, in part, that local officials must spend their time counting specifically defined parts of the process of getting people back to work, and that they were not free to do key things that help because of strict definitions in the law. Instead, the state wanted the measurement to be how successful the programs are, with the ability to tailor them to local needs.

"Assisting a customer in the most relevant activities to find and keep employment should be the work of staff, not collecting and verifying hours in the manner now prescribed," the state's document said.

Nevada officials had a similar take.

"Nevada is very interested in working with your staff to explore program waivers that have the potential to encourage more cooperative relationships among the state agencies engaged in economic stimulus through job creation, employment skill attainment and gainful employment activities," Michael Willden, the head of Nevada's Department of Health and Human Services, wrote to his federal counterparts in August 2011.

"Nevada is also interested in exploring performance measures that ensure program accountability and also increase the probability of families becoming self-sufficient," he added, noting that Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval (R) was "very supportive of the concept."

The federal memorandum on the welfare policy change requires such performance measures, and the program changes must be approved by federal officials.

Democrats were perplexed by the Republican outburst at an attempt to improve the efficiency of welfare-to-work.

Rep. Sandy Levin (D-Mich.), the highest-ranking Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee, said HHS is encouraging states to do the same thing that Congress encouraged them to do in the 1990s.

"Curiously, some of the same voices that pay lip service to the virtues of state flexibility now appear to oppose providing waivers under the TANF program," Levin said in a statement. "It turns out that Republican support for state flexibility is a one-way street -- they support flexibility when it comes to reducing assistance for needy Americans looking for work, but they oppose giving states greater discretion in helping people find work."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/13/mitt-romney-welfare-change_n_1672173.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Im including the link , because there are links from there to supporting sites.. I wont be responding to claims of LW bias. My knowledge of the ins and outs of the SSA and TANF is not strong and I am not spending a minute more researching this weekend.



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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/14/2012 7:36:28 AM   
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I wasnt aware of raping teenage girls, where was that, you can't mean Strom Thurmond after all this time....




From the current Congress, Ron. Why am I not surprised to find you either ignorant of it, or feigning ignorance of it?

Funny how party registration seems to play such a role in deciding which scandals get legs in the media, or in the obsessions of hacks...


http://www.badrepublicans.com/republican-hobbies.html

Any of these guys, and yes, I am unaware of whatever you are talking about, but you are ignorant enough for the both of us, with your thinking man asswipe, what a fuckin joke.. If you cant rant in innuendo, impugnation or smear, you got nothing.

Fucking say who it is, but then thats not whats under discussion, in any case, what is the problem with the goddamn law?

Dont be a fuckin obsessive hack.

If you are talking about David Wu, he hasn't been convicted, but I think the fuckers a slime in any case......

Or what is your 'bombshell' ?

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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/14/2012 7:46:18 AM   
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Or what is your 'bombshell'



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RE: Obama The Imperial Ruler - 7/14/2012 9:05:12 AM   
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David Wu also had a history of increasingly erratic behavior. I am not defending the guy, but he was obviously mentally ill.

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