Owner59
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As I`ve said many times in the past.......there is no group who`s immune to their members doing crimes.....
From churches and temples to college foot-ball teams to elected officials.
People are flawed and it`s near impossible not to find examples of that.
However.....it is how the leadership of said organization handles the offender.....that really counts and matters.
At Penn state for example......it turns out that foot-ball-god Joe Paterno knew of the long time rapes and other sexual abuses suffered at the hand of his assistant coach.
Is all the blame on sandusky?
Most of it yes........
But what about sandusky`s enablers.....who knew and didn`t go to the police and let more and more and more young boys become his victims.....spreading the malignant cycle of sexual abuse to countless others?
There`s calls to tear down the statue of Paterno at Penn State.
No one is suggesting that cons are more degenerate than libs tho the quantity and quality of their scandles might lead one to think so.
It`s how the leadership of the offender handles it.......... that separates the men from the boys......the leaders from the sheep.
For example.......Denny Hastart....the Speaker Of The House knew of and enabled Mark Foley`s abuse of congressional pages......... for years.
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Mark_Foley_page_scandal
"Following the resignation, it became apparent that many GOP leaders in Congress had been warned about Foley's interactions with pages for years preceding the 2006 revelations.
Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.) was warned about Foley in 2000
Following Foley's resignation, Rep. Jim Kolbe (R-Ariz.) acknowledged that a former congressional page approached him “as long as six years ago (2000)” to report feeling uncomfortable by messages sent from Foley. A spokeswoman for Kolbe added that the congressman could not remember whether he confronted Foley directly or simply delegated the matter to his staff. When asked directly about his actions, Kolbe stated, “We’ll have a statement on that. We’ll have a statement on that.” [10]
On October 10, Kolbe released a statement which declared, "Some time after leaving the Page program, an individual I had appointed as a Page contacted my office to say he had received e-mails from Rep. Foley that made him uncomfortable. I was not shown the content of the messages and was not told they were sexually explicit. It was my recommendation that this complaint be passed along to Rep. Foley's office and the Clerk who supervised the Page program. This was done promptly. I did not have a personal conversation with Mr. Foley about the matter. I assume e-mail contact ceased since the former Page never raised the issue again with my office. I believed then, and believe now, that this was the appropriate way to handle this incident given the information I had and the fact that the young man was no longer a Page and not subject to the jurisdiction of the program." [11]
Kolbe was immediately criticized for his apparent failure to notify the Republican leadership about the concerns surrounding Foley. David Smith, president of the Human Rights Campaign, noted that if Kolbe did not take steps to alert others, then he is “just as culpable as the Republican leadership in failing to protect pages.” [12] GOP Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) also criticized Kolbe, stating “The pipeline should be straight to the leadership, even for this abhorrent type of situation.” [13]
The Clerk of the House, Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-La.), Rep. John Shimkus (R-Ill.) and the office of Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) were warned about Foley in fall 2005Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-La.) was the sponsor of the then-sixteen year old page whose emails from Foley sparked the controversy. [14] Shimkus, Alexander and Jeff Trandahl, the Clerk of the House appointed by Hastert in 1999, clearly had some degree of knowledge about Foley's emails with the page. Hastert, however, has admitted that his office knew of the matter but in the early days of the scandal denied that he was personally informed about it until late 2006, a position he later backed away from (see below for details).
Over August 30-31, 2005, the page forwarded the emails from Foley to a staffer in Alexander's office, adding that the "sick" emails "freaked me out." This was confirmed by copies of the emails released by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) and by statements by Alexander on September 29, 2006, the day of Foley's resignation. [15] (See emails at right.)
Alexander also stated on September 29th that he learned of the matter from a reporter after his staffer had, in late October or November of 2005. He said he then called the page's parents, who told him they wanted to keep the matter quiet. [16] According to a timeline of events released by Speaker Dennis Hastert's office, staffers for Alexander then contacted Rep. John Shimkus, then-House Clerk Tim Trandahal[17] and staffers in Hastert's office.
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