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LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (6/16/2006 6:37:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rapture^
Are they a bilaterial situation?

Ah but your original statement didn't mention bilateralness- it said "on his terms."

Everyone agrees to the terms of NON bilateralness in a consensual authority transfer.

If your original statement had said "they need to be non-bi-lateral" then I'd have completely agreed with you.

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 I also say for what you seek, truly seek of a Man who is truly dominate over you will never be yours " " to feel. You will always have a certain emptiness.

You've totally confused me on this- are you saying this is what you say to women you try and seduce?  Or is this how you believe *I* feel?

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Being "stable" is akin to being "normal" ... if you gather my meaning.

Rapture

I don't.  Normal to me just means "like the majority of others."  Most people aren't very stable. 




SirLordTrainer -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 10:29:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

I keep coming across this phrase 'submission is a gift'. To me it is arrant nonsense, if submission is a gift then domination is a gift. At best submission is a loan while a relationship is sound.

The sub wouldn't be submitting if s/he isn't getting anything out of a relationship in return, it takes two to tango so basically what is happening is an exchange of favours.

Am I right or am I wrong?


I realize this is an old post but I had to respond because My thought coincides with yours in that ever since I first saw that phrase a few years back I was like hey, what kind of crap is that. Ive always viewed Domination/submission as a mutual exchange. If submission is a gift then so too is My Domination. Hell, for that matter what about all the nice ties and floggings etc. Ive done on subbie and her friends. If those arent gifts I dont know what is.  chuckles 




sophia37 -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 11:13:52 AM)

Submission, the gift that keeps on giving? 




njoyingdajourney -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 11:24:10 AM)

i have written in my profile that my submission is a gift..i don`t care what anyone thinks.......i`m the one deciding to be submissive and who i am going to be submissive with and the person better value that.........a true Dom knows how precious that is..........if not then they are not Dom at all.




KatyLied -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 11:30:04 AM)

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Submission, the gift that keeps on giving?


Evidently!  [8D]
I like to wrap myself up early in the morning and present myself to my Dom.  He enjoys the ribbons and fun of unwrapping me and my submission.
sheesh




PlayfulOne -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 12:48:47 PM)

Can somebody just put a stake thru this thread so it will stop rising from the dead.

K




mnottertail -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 12:50:22 PM)

I will send a stake for your birthday.  Then we can consider death of threads a gift.





subnoconas -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 12:58:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: meatcleaver

I keep coming across this phrase 'submission is a gift'. To me it is arrant nonsense, if submission is a gift then domination is a gift. At best submission is a loan while a relationship is sound.

The sub wouldn't be submitting if s/he isn't getting anything out of a relationship in return, it takes two to tango so basically what is happening is an exchange of favours.

Am I right or am I wrong?

submission is a geft. and yes so is domanating. but remeber unless the sub singd a contract to be a slave the sub has the right to say no to something and aslo the right to walk away and never come back. "if you beat your dog to badly expect it to bite back in defeance"




PlayfulOne -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 1:07:48 PM)

good one Ron.

K




justheather -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 1:14:58 PM)


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ORIGINAL: KatyLied

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Submission, the gift that keeps on giving?


Evidently!  [8D]
I like to wrap myself up early in the morning and present myself to my Dom.  He enjoys the ribbons and fun of unwrapping me and my submission.
sheesh


Lately, Ive been just buying people those Submission Gift Cards as opposed to actually giving them my submission as a gift. That way they can pick out the submission they really really want for themselves.




kitty2MLoneWolf -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 1:52:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: njoyingdajourney

i have written in my profile that my submission is a gift..i don`t care what anyone thinks.......i`m the one deciding to be submissive and who i am going to be submissive with and the person better value that.........a true Dom knows how precious that is..........if not then they are not Dom at all.


Being a Dom has nothing to do with whether or not they "know how precious that is"..

Being a Dom is about understanding and implementing the power exchange in a D/s or BDSM relationship. Now.. they can be an asshole dom or they can be a good dom.. but either way.. they are still a dom :)




Sinergy -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 4:30:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

A submissive is like a chicken nugget

K



What part of a chicken is the "nugget?"

Sinergy




PlayfulOne -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 4:40:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: PlayfulOne

A submissive is like a chicken nugget

K



What part of a chicken is the "nugget?"

Sinergy


Do you really want to know?

K




njoyingdajourney -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 4:40:11 PM)

ok well i was referring to the asshole Doms....i suppose they abound everywhere......not just in Canada lol




PlayfulOne -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 4:43:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: njoyingdajourney

ok well i was referring to the asshole Doms....i suppose they abound everywhere......not just in Canada lol


I'm not an asshole dom (though there might be a couple who would say otherwise, grins) but if your a gift then I am free come Christmas to put a bow on you and stick you under the tree of another dom,  right?

K




njoyingdajourney -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 6:10:20 PM)

go right ahead i don`t have one to begin with lol maybe this is the way i will meet Him




MasterNdorei -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 7:26:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: feastie

No, submission is not a gift.  It's part of my personality, what defines me as a person.  Doncha wanna hunt down and kill the person that made that line up?  OMG More than you know......

I can see how some people think it's a gift though.  A submissive opens a door to the deepest parts of herself and invites her dominant in to share it with her.  That's pretty special, because not many people get the invitation.  Of course, if things are as they should be, he does the same. 
That is not spelled G-I-F-T it is spelled C-H-E-R-R-Y.

No, it's not a gift, it's just sharing who you are.
All joking aside, you said this really well.




ownedgirlie -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/11/2006 9:16:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: justheather

Lately, Ive been just buying people those Submission Gift Cards as opposed to actually giving them my submission as a gift. That way they can pick out the submission they really really want for themselves.

Oh this just made me laugh out loud!!  [sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif][sm=biggrin.gif]




eyesopened -> RE: Submission is a gift!!!??? (9/12/2006 3:28:02 AM)

i'm new.  i've never experienced a committed D/s relationship so i'm still learning and trying to understand myself better.  i've never really understood submission as a "gift" because i don't think what a Dom wants from me is submission but rather my power?  Doesn't He want to feel more powerful?  Someone once told me "why would i want a power exchange with someone who is powerless?"  That made much more sense to me.  i look at D/s as a power exchange with the operative word being "exchange"




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