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Aswad -> RE: Why Is The Equivalent Of A 9/11 Every Six Weeks Something That Americans Can ‘Live’ With? (7/23/2012 1:23:37 AM)
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Do you want to say the government was involved here too? It is not an impossibility, of course: the pace, the timing, the perpetrator obviously on drugs of some kind.
That's an absurd post.
If he were a foreign national from a place where people sell their kidneys to feed their families, I might credit some sort of political scandal. But the only group with anything to gain is the gun control lobby, and while I don't doubt some of them are willing to kill for their views (and the careers built on those views), I doubt any of them are willing to risk their lives to further their cause. The president can max get another term out of it, and the risk associated with using a massacre as a PR ploy makes that a non-starter. That politicians intentionally profit off disasters and tragedies isn't controversial, it's a given. It's also an entirely different thing than to conspire to make it come to pass in the first place. Just because something could have happened doesn't mean it did, even if it might benefit someone. Particularly not when it is difficult to do and no evidence has been put forth to support it. So try to read up on what constitutes viable evidence and go find some. If you have any, present it. Hint: a game of connect-the-dots is not how it works.
Better yet, show me evidence to the effect that serious work has been done to show anything solid about brainwashing or indoctrination on a scale that doesn't rely on a whole community around the intended agent as a scaffolding, and I will give it more thought. So far, I have yet to find that, and I have looked around. There isn't even much information on grooming out there, let alone conditioning to the level required to do this sort of thing. You could do some things with a huge setup and people willing to make it the focus of their lives over an extended period of time, but I've seen no evidence that it's viable as an approach. And I've seen no evidence of that level of competence, persistence and dedication among politicians and beurocrats. So dig up some solid stuff on deep psychological manipulation, and I'll have a look at it.
IWYW,
— Aswad.
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