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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 2:53:15 PM   
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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 2:55:38 PM   
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Chick-fil-A gay fallout: Chicago ban, Facebook gaffe, Malkin blog

Strike another city from Chick-fil-A’s fan club as a Chicago official has pledged to block the fast-food chain from opening in his district amid a heated national debate over the place of the gay marriage debate in corporate America.

Proco “Joe” Moreno, one of 50 Windy City aldermen who make up the City Council, told the Chicago Tribune that he plans to prevent Chick-fil-A from building its second Chicago restaurant in his trendy, hipster-filled ward.

The company’s offense? President Dan Cathy’s comments last week that he is “guilty as charged” of defining marriage as the union of a man and a woman. In other words, he’s not in favor of gay marriage.

“If you are discriminating against a segment of the community, I don't want you in the 1st Ward," Moreno told the Tribune this week. “Because of this man’s ignorance, I will now be denying Chick-fil-A’s permit to open a restaurant in the 1stWard.”

He also added that Cathy’s comments were “bigoted, homophobic.”

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-chick-fil-a-chicago-20120725,0,4158667.story



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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 3:05:46 PM   
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You do understand that the Children's Television Workship (that actually produces Sesame Street) and the muppets aren't one and the same, yes?



Yep.

With that in mind, what exactly would you like Henson Productions to do?

The reason that I ask is because I'm curious about venue. I think (not positive) that I saw a commercial for a recent Muppet movie released. Other than that, I don't know where Henson would have the creative control.

Suggestions?



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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 3:13:48 PM   
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I don't think it's government's place to decide who gets to do what based on whether they agree with your religious views. The alderman knows this and is just trolling for votes.

On the other hand, I think this is in Wicker Park. If the residents make enough noise that would effectively run them off. And that is TOTALLY within their rights. Wicker Park is not a good place to be if you are not gay friendly. It used to be a S#@t hole neighborhood. But as is so often the case in gentrification, gay couples lead the way. . . . .

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 3:24:17 PM   
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Very few things in the world have
done more to promote cultural diversity
than Sesame Street.


True. I always thought that Sesame Street was one of the best of the USA's TV exports. If I'd have had a kid at the time, I'd have planted it front of the telly for that show.

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 4:41:42 PM   
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The Henson company announced that they are cutting all future ties with Chick-Fil-A due to the latter's recent stance against gay marriage. If the Henson company is so pro-LGBT why are there no gay Muppets? I'm not aware of any although I have always had my suspicions about Bert and Ernie.

I say put your money where your mouth is, Henson folks.



Because there are no heterosexual Muppets either (and you can't even use Miss Piggy and Kermit because they've never fucked on camera).

And by the way...Big Bird....gay.


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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 5:13:31 PM   
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Jon Stewart Destroyed Chick-Fil-A

Chick-Fil-A COO Dan Cathy is on record as supporting only marriage as it is “defined by the bible.” Well, as it turns out, the bible says all sorts of kooky sh*t about the marriage that people like Dan Cathy appear to conveniently overlook. Cue Jon Stewart breaking out a bible and getting right to the heart of the crazy. Hold on to your foreskin, fellas!

Video: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-july-23-2012/gaywatch---holdouts-edition

IN DEFENSE OF BIBLICAL MARRIAGE

Here...is a proposed Constitutional Amendment codifying marriage entirely on biblical principles:

- Marriage in the United States shall consist of a union between one man and one or more women. (Gen 29:17-28; II Sam 3:2-5; Matthew 25:1)
- Marriage shall not impede a man's right to take concubines in addition to his wife or wives. (II Sam 5:13; I Kings 11:3; II Chron11:21)
- A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. (Deut 22:13-21)
- Marriage of a believer and a non-believer shall be forbidden. (Gen 24:3; Num 25:1-9; Ezra 9:12; Neh 10:30)
- Since marriage is for life, neither this Constitution nor the constitution of any state, nor any state or federal law, shall be construed to permit divorce. (Deut 22:19; Mark 10:9)
- If a married man dies without children, his brother shall marry the widow. If he refuses to marry his brother's widow or deliberately does not give her children, he shall pay a fine of one shoe and be otherwise punished in a manner to be determined by law. (Gen. 38:6-10; Deut 25:5-10)
- In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him (even if he had previously offered you up as a sex toy to men young and old), tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female. (Gen 19:31-36)

THE TOP 14 BIBLICAL WAYS TO ACQUIRE A WIFE (author unknown)

- Find an attractive prisoner of war, bring her home, shave her head, trim her nails, and give her new clothes. Then she's yours. (Deuteronomy 21:11-13)
- Find a prostitute and marry her. (Hosea 1:1-3)
- Find a man with seven daughters, and impress him by watering his flock. (Moses -- Exodus 2:16-21)
- Purchase a piece of property, and get a woman as part of the deal. (Boaz -- Ruth 4:5-10)
- Go to a party and hide. When the women come out to dance, grab one and carry her off to be your wife. (Benjaminites -- Judges 21:19-25)
- Have God create a wife for you while you sleep. Note: this will cost you. (Adam -- Genesis 2:19-24)
- Agree to work seven years in exchange for a woman's hand in marriage. Get tricked into marrying the wrong woman. Then work another seven years for the woman you wanted to marry in the first place. That's right. Fourteen years of toil for a wife. (Jacob -- Genesis 29:15-30)
- Cut 200 foreskins off of your future father-in-law's enemies and get his daughter for a wife. (David -- 1 Samuel 18:27)
- Even if no one is out there, just wander around a bit and you'll definitely find someone. (It's all relative, of course.) (Cain -- Genesis 4:16-17)
- Become the emperor of a huge nation and hold a beauty contest. (Xerxes or Ahasuerus -- Esther 2:3-4)
- When you see someone you like, go home and tell your parents, "I have seen a ... woman; now get her for me." If your parents question your decision, simply say, "Get her for me. She's the one for me." (Samson -- Judges 14:1-3)
- Kill any husband and take HIS wife (Prepare to lose four sons, though). (David -- 2 Samuel 11)
- Wait for your brother to die. Take his widow. (It's not just a good idea; it's the law.) (Onana and Boaz -- Deuteronomy or Leviticus, example in Ruth)
- Don't be so picky. Make up for quality with quantity. (Solomon -- 1 Kings 11:1-3)

TOP 7 BIBLICAL WAYS TO ACQUIRE A HUSBAND (from J. Duin)

- Have your husband act like a jerk toward a famous warlord while you secretly show up at the warlord's camp with muleloads of tasty provisions, at which point the warlord falls in love with you, after which point you inform your husband of the whole matter, at which point he has a stroke, dies and you marry the warlord.
- Show up at a threshing floor (if you can find one anywhere outside of Kansas) in the dead of night and uncover the feet of the best-looking guy there.
- Go to any old watering hole and start filling the watering jars of the guy with the most camels.
- Have your good-looking sister lure someone to marry her but substitute yourself for her on their wedding night.
- Hang around barren women and offer to be a concubine for their husbands' need.
- Take a bath on your roof preferably in view of some nearby apartment buildings.
- Make like a prostitute around guys who hear from God that they need to marry you to show the country the nature of their idolatrous ways.

(You'll have to figure out the references yourself...)

BIBLICAL CONTRADICTIONS ON MARRIAGE

- He who finds a wife finds a good thing. (Proverbs 18:22)
- It is good for a man not to touch a woman. (1 Corinthians 7:1)
- A man shall marry his brother’s widow. (Deuteronomy 25:5)
- A marriage between a man and his brother’s widow is unclean. (Leviticus 20:21)
- It is better to be unmarried and a virgin, and live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord. (Paul -- 1 Corinthians 7:32-35)

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/25/2012 9:10:45 PM   
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lamale, I am jealous of you ;)

eta: did you work on Dark Crystal, by chance? absolutely one of my favorite movies EVER!!


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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 8:34:18 AM   
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Colbert calls out Chick-fil-A's Facebook "sock puppet"

On Thursday night’s edition of “The Colbert Report,” host Stephen Colbert delved into the controversy over Chick-fil-A’s anti-LGBT politics and their poorly-thought-out defense strategy of creating a phony teenage defender on Facebook.

Since Chick-fil-A founder Dan Cathy announced that he was “guilty as charged” of pledging millions of dollars to anti-LGBT groups and averred that his company is run on “Biblical principles,” LGBT activists and others have taken action against the fast food chain. Jim Henson’s Muppets have ended a business relationship with the restaurants and the mayors of Boston and Chicago have announced their intentions to fight the company’s efforts to expand in their cities.

“Thankfully,” said Colbert, “People are stepping up to defend Chick-fil-A. For example, innocent teenager Abby Farle.”

Farle is a teenage girl who took to Facebook to stick up for the embattled restaurant chain. She also happens to be completely fake.

Apparently, Chick-fil-A decided it needed to take some emergency PR action, and allegedly created a fake Facebook account for the teen. The company denies the charge, but as Colbert noted, Abby Farle’s Facebook account was only one day old when she went on her cyber crusade to defend the company. Also, and most damningly, Farle’s profile photo was a stock photo from Shutterstock, the popular online image archive.

In Internet parlance, a fake persona created by someone to defend themselves is called a “sock puppet.” There have been a few notorious instances of sock puppetry over the years, including the sad tale of Lee Siegel, who created the identity “Sprezzatura” to attack his detractors and insist that Siegel was “brave, brilliant and wittier than Stewart will ever be.” Siegel’s career has never recovered from the incident.

However, as Colbert pointed out, perhaps in this case Chick-fil-A was “sticking up for a different minority,” people who pose for clip art photos, or as he called them, “Our proud Stock Photo Americans.”

Watch the clip, embedded via Comedy Central, below:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/27/colbert-calls-out-chick-fil-as-facebook-sock-puppet/

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 8:41:54 AM   
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With that in mind, what exactly would you like Henson Productions to do?


What they're doing at the moment seems to be working perfectly well. What else do they actually need to do about the problem?

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 8:45:36 AM   
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I think the two old geezers in the theater balcony were a loving quietly gay couple, just because they weren't feeling the need to go shouting it all over the place does not detract from their humanity. 

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 8:50:23 AM   
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What they're doing at the moment seems to be working perfectly well. What else do they actually need to do about the problem?

I don't happen to think they need to do a thing. It was your responses in posts #25 and #29 that led Me to think you believed they weren't doing enough. Perhaps we're just not used to each other's posting styles.



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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 8:54:29 AM   
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He does have a bit of a nuance of droll posting sarcasm syndrome, and can be extremely arcane in sub-referential punning and point underlining.  He's NordAEnglish, you see.

I am teaching him the piss-up beer brawl style of american politicks but he still differentiates arse and ass, in that he is incorrigible and opstreperous. 

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 9:09:26 AM   
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I remember on the newer version of the Muppets about 10 years ago, there was a rather dodgy joke about someone being spied on in the bath ...

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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 9:52:53 AM   
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I think the two old geezers in the theater balcony were a loving quietly gay couple, just because they weren't feeling the need to go shouting it all over the place does not detract from their humanity.


Colbert agrees.




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RE: Why are there no gay Muppets? - 7/27/2012 10:02:54 AM   
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This is SO gonna piss off Chick-Fil_A

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