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Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in English


Good for him! I think it is about time someone took a stand!
  78% (85)
This is discrimination.
  6% (7)
Spanish speaking people shouldn't be required to learn English.
  0% (1)
I'll just eat at Taco Bell.
  2% (3)
Who really gives a rats ass?
  11% (12)


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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 7:27:59 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		No idea.  Ask the owner of Geno's.  I don't think he distinguishes, as long as they order from his shop in English.

Does anyone really believe that immigrants don't know how to order a cheese steak in English?  People, you're getting riled up over a false issue.  And the journalist who wrote this article had a responsibility to say something about the neighborhood.  Yet more sensationalism.

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Lord, are you talking about Immigrants or Illegal Aliens?

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 7:46:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		 my mother, who is an immigrant, and just got her citizenship recently learned english on arriving here. She didn't have to learn english, but she did so she could get by and understand what people were saying to her. Yes, she still has problems with some words, and needs help with her written english ,yet she tryed to adapt. It is their right to speak their own langurge, but learn a working knowledge of the language of the country where you live to get by.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 10:28:16 PM   
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Does anyone really believe that immigrants don't know how to order a cheese steak in English?  People, you're getting riled up over a false issue.  And the journalist who wrote this article had a responsibility to say something about the neighborhood.  Yet more sensationalism.


LAM, with all due respect this is just a small sliver of a bigger problem. It really doesn't matter what kind of neighborhood it is that Geno's is in... this is about immigrants and the language issue and the fact that whenever some American puts up any resistance to having to cater to those people that choose to live here and don't want to learn the language and they think that we (the American people) should change for them. People think it is racist and bigoted to expect an immigrant to try to learn the language. The immigrants (and for the most part they are Hispanic) compare themselves to a group of people that wanted to learn the language of their country of choice.

This is not some little political nonsense, the man makes a valid point and he is getting heat for it.

I am tired of the people that just think that it is OK to give up our own culture just because someone says we should in order to be politically correct.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:00:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree with Gauge on this one. I made mention of this in the other thread about cheesesteaks, but I would love to know why Geno's is getting all this heat, when in Nebraska a local grocery chain has made it mandatory for all managers, butchers and pharmicists to speak Spanish as well as English. That little tidbit hasn't gotten hardly any press coverage at all, yet this one does. Go figure.

I am like RavenMuse. I travel quite a bit. I do speak Spanish fairly well, but French is very difficult for me. When I travel to other countries, I make a concerted effort to learn the basics of their language. I am in their country and I am the one who needs to fit in to their language, not vice versa. 

I have a very dear friend who is from Sri Lanka. it's a very long story, but she was brought to this country illegally and after she gained her freedom she came to live with me, in a foster type situation. This was in 2000 and she was 32. She spoke little to no English. Within 6 months she was speaking English. Certainly not the Queens English, but enough to have a good start on it. She came from a very poor, rural area of Sri Lanka with little education, but she made the effort and *wanted* to fit in. There in lies the difference to me.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:25:31 PM   
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I have to disagree with the obligation here.  I think the owner of a business should have the right to run his business in any way he pleases.  If the public doesn't like the way he runs his business, the public has the right to not patronize his business and thus put him out of business.


Harry:

I am pretty sure, though not positve that this in incorrect.  I think when operating a business that is open to the public, there are certain regulations that they have to abide by. 


I'm dead certain that there are one whole hell of a lot of regulations they have to abide by.  Many of which, although not all of which, I disagree with.  My blanket statement quoted above was a bit broader than I intended.  Despite what LAM thinks of me, I'm not a totally lazy fairy.  Regulations which require that food in restaurants be reasonably safe to eat, that scales in a market be accurate, that merchants not discriminate against people because of the color of their skin, are good.

On the other hand, I feel that the State has no business telling bar or restaurant owners that they may not allow their customers to smoke, that they must take orders in languages they don't understand, or a great many other things.

Having read the article, I think that the business owner's decision is stupid, but none the less that he has the right to make it.  And his competitors have the right to exploit the stupidity of it to their gain and his loss, as they are doing.

I am a native of the City of Brotherly Love, although I haven't been there in thirty years.  I live in Arizona, sixty-five miles from the Mexian border, where the battle over ILLEGAL immigration is huge.  But, regardless of how they feel about it, no businessman around here in his right mind would refuse to serve a customer who speaks only Spanish.  In fact, a great many businesses dealing with the public start new employees who are bilingual in English and Spanish at a higher rate of pay because it's such a useful skill.

And by the way, my vote was for "Who really gives a rat's ass?"

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:33:37 PM   
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Hell, when I went to Rome for a vacation years ago I made a point to learn a few phrases so as to better get around.


When I was in Rome, I found that speaking Spanish with an Italian accent worked like a charm.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:41:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe I should move to Mexico, not pay taxes, have children there, and demand that they be taught by English speaking teachers in school. Sheesh, if you're going to immigrate, learn the native language.
 
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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:42:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble
There are over 5000 languages on this planet. It seems to be asking a bit much for simple business owners to learn them all to cater to the few who are coming into their shop and can't order off the menu. If you're going into a local establishment, deal with it as the locals would and in that language or at least have a translation guide with you.

If I am stepping into someone's universe, I'll be happy to do things their way. If they are stepping into mine, they need to learn things my way.

The first phrase I learn before I go to any country where English isn't spoken is 'where's the bathroom?'

I don't expect the rest of the world to learn English because I have bladder control issues. ::chuckles::

Celeste


Having used Berlitz books in more than a few countries, there was one thing that I never understood.  One of the first phrases they teach (or at least used to teach) in each language was, "Do you speak English?"

I always thought this was one question you don't need to know in any other language.  If you walk up to somebody in Timbuktu and say, "Do you speak English?" and he doesn't understand the question, then the answer is obviously, "No." 

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:44:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		We're going around in circles, Gauge, but THIS isn't about immigrants; this is about Geno's cheese steak restaurant.  Geno's is just using people's anger to try to drum up cheese-steak sales.

As for the idea that immigrants shouldn't have to learn English--who EVER said that?  From the beginning I said that all government documents should be in English.  I'd oppose the idea of making Spanish the second national language as strongly as you do; the only difference between us is that I don't see any real movement to do this.  There's an immigrants'-rights movement, sure, but I don't see that they're making very much headway.  In fact, they CAN'T make any headway, because if illegal immigrants are ever granted substantial economic and political rights, they'll immediately be replaced by the next wave of illegal immigrants.  That's why people hire illegal immigrants in the first place.  They're expendable.

All the rhetoric and anxiety about how illegals are taking over the country is grossly out of proportion to the real scope of the immigration problem we currently have.  Yes, we are in need of immigration reform, but being distracted by false issues is hardly the way to solve it.  I really wish people who expend half as much energy on real issues as they do on bullshit like Geno's restaurant.

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this is about immigrants and the language issue and the fact that whenever some American puts up any resistance to having to cater to those people that choose to live here and don't want to learn the language and they think that we (the American people) should change for them. People think it is racist and bigoted to expect an immigrant to try to learn the language.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:46:00 PM   
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lol celeste.  donde esta el bano?  toire wa doko desu ka?   (in case you go to a latin country or japan)  And i love texas...used to live in San Antonio.  Damn i miss the salsa from H.E.B. (sobs)


As I recall, in Texican, it's "Where's the outhouse at?"

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/9/2006 11:46:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you had qualified your statement so that it reflected what you really meant, I might actually have agreed with you.  Don't overstate your case, and maybe we'll find a lot more common ground than you expect.

Edited to add: Forgot to mention, I voted the same way you did about this one.  "Who gives a rat's ass?"

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ORIGINAL: HarryVanWinkle

My blanket statement quoted above was a bit broader than I intended.  Despite what LAM thinks of me, I'm not a totally lazy fairy.


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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 12:10:36 AM   
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Having used Berlitz books in more than a few countries, there was one thing that I never understood.  One of the first phrases they teach (or at least used to teach) in each language was, "Do you speak English?"

I always thought this was one question you don't need to know in any other language.  If you walk up to somebody in Timbuktu and say, "Do you speak English?" and he doesn't understand the question, then the answer is obviously, "No." 


There is that.. but, what if I walk up to 50 people before I get a yes? By then, I've peed on myself. I'll stick with learning 'where's the bathroom' and other necessary questions. Once the emergency bodily functions are taken care of, then I can stroll around at my leisure asking if anyone speaks English or one of the other languages with which I'm familiar.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 3:04:45 AM   
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If I am stepping into someone's universe, I'll be happy to do things their way. If they are stepping into mine, they need to learn things my way.


Sums up my attitude to the entire question perfectly dear. You do have quite a knack for fiting things into a nutshell


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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 9:12:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		interesting...I wasn't taught texican in highschool...i was taught what my teacher called "proper" way of speaking spanish (which i assume is the spaniard way of it and takes into account no dialectic or regional variations and i'm not saying the "proper" spanish is right or the only way which is why it's in quotes) 
 
but hey outhouse or toilet just show me a room with a door where i can shit and please let there be toilet paper in there. LOL. 

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lol celeste.  donde esta el bano?  toire wa doko desu ka?   (in case you go to a latin country or japan)  And i love texas...used to live in San Antonio.  Damn i miss the salsa from H.E.B. (sobs)


As I recall, in Texican, it's "Where's the outhouse at?"

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 10:40:56 AM   
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We're going around in circles, Gauge, but THIS isn't about immigrants; this is about Geno's cheese steak restaurant.  Geno's is just using people's anger to try to drum up cheese-steak sales.


OK... maybe we are going around in circles LAM, but I still don't think you understand my point as to why I posted this. I will attempt to clarify.

This may well be a tactic to drum up cheesesteak sales and really I don't care one way or another which it is. Let's forget for a minute that it is Geno's or cheesesteaks or even a business. I see this as an indication, of a general attitude that we, as the American people, are fed up with people coming here and making us compromise our culture to fit their lifestyle. Don't you find that rude? And I am not talking about illegal immigrants (or the recent publicity about that) I am talking about any immigrants, legal or otherwise.

In my OP I pointed out a quote:

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 Juntos, a Hispanic neighborhood organization, said it plans to send people to Geno's to try to order in Spanish and may pursue court action, depending on what happens.

"His [Geno's owner] grandparents encountered the same racism and the same xenophobia," said Peter Bloom, the group's director. "Why would he begin that process over again?" 


And my statement to that was:

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 From what I have read, immigrants back in the 1920's came to America legally, made a clear effort to adapt to American life and actually did everything they could to learn English. 


Why is it racist to expect immigrants to learn English when they reside within the borders of the USA? The current immigrants compare their 'plight' with immigrants that never took such a stand that they are taking. THAT is my point.

The Geno's article may be a 'false issue' and that is fine if you want to call it that, but you cannot deny the attitude from immigrants that they do expect us to cater to them to make life easier for them. THAT is another point I am trying to make.

Maybe we are taking the same thing and saying it different ways, but you keep going back to the article and it's rhetoric when, really, that isn't the reason I posted it.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 11:05:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everyone wants an easier life.  I don't blame illegal immigrants for wanting an easier life.  There's an element of phoney morality that's being injected into the immigration debate, and I don't understand what anyone thinks it contributes (though I certainly understand where it comes from).  The issues are really very simple, and they're purely economic: we have illegal immigrants in this country because people hire them.  As I've said repeatedly, if you're really upset about illegal immigration, the people to blame are companies that hire them--and the government too, obviously, for allowing the situation to continue for as long as it has.  You (and the 45 other people who voted for option no. 1 in your poll) seem to be personally offended that immigrants don't speak English well, and that seems like a wildly irrational response to what is essentially an economic problem.

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ORIGINAL: Gauge

The Geno's article may be a 'false issue' and that is fine if you want to call it that, but you cannot deny the attitude from immigrants that they do expect us to cater to them to make life easier for them.


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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 11:20:04 AM   
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You (and the 45 other people who voted for option no. 1 in your poll) seem to be personally offended that immigrants don't speak English well, and that seems like a wildly irrational response to what is essentially an economic problem.


This isn't about illegals although I do agree with your statement that businesses are to blame for hiring them and contributing to the problem.

And I am not personally offended that immigrants can't speak English well if they are at least attempting to learn it I am all for them... I am offended that there are a good deal of them that do not want to adapt into our way of life and that includes not wanting to learn the language. Sure everyone wants an easier life and that's fine but the attitude of those that want America to adapt to them is, in my opinion, wrong of them to expect. And when anyone says that it is wrong of immigrants to expect that, they are branded as racists and bigots.

I have no problem with other cultures living here, I have no problem with the fact that immigration was how this nation was formed. I have no problem with those that want to assimilate themselves into the American way of life. I do have a problem with those that don't want to assimilate themselves.

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 3:24:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		"CONTRIBUTING" to the problem?  Those business ARE the problem, Gauge.

You know, one thing people rarely ask themselves when they talk about illegal immigrants is who benefits from their presence.  Cui bono?  Why do you think it is, for example, that this administration, which is otherwise as conservative as they come, has been remarkably tolerant of illegal immigration--even hinting at the idea of an amnesty?  Whose pockets are getting fat?  Cuz SOMEONE'S pockets must be.  It's much easier to blame illegal immigrants with their broken English and allegedly self-serving attitudes than to ask who's hiring them in the first place.

And why they're getting away with it.

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This isn't about illegals although I do agree with your statement that businesses are to blame for hiring them and contributing to the problem.


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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 5:41:06 PM   
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You know, one thing people rarely ask themselves when they talk about illegal immigrants is who benefits from their presence.  Cui bono?  Why do you think it is, for example, that this administration, which is otherwise as conservative as they come, has been remarkably tolerant of illegal immigration--even hinting at the idea of an amnesty?  Whose pockets are getting fat?  Cuz SOMEONE'S pockets must be.  It's much easier to blame illegal immigrants with their broken English and allegedly self-serving attitudes than to ask who's hiring them in the first place.

And why they're getting away with it.


I am talking about immigrants in general... not necessarily illegal immigrants. I stated in my OP that I kind of wanted to stay out of the illegal immigrant issue because that is a different issue entirely.

So you find nothing wrong with Hispanics (and I only use Hispanics because they are currently the overwhelming majority of immigrants) wanting Spanish schools? Curriculum designed to cater to Spanish speaking people... paid for by American tax dollars (and before you blast me for that, I know that the legal immigrants pay taxes as well but this is America, not Mexico or Puerto Rico or Honduras). If I came into your house and told you... no... demanded that you do what I say and if you didn't do it I would protest and call you racist and bigoted... you would think this was just dandy and accept it?

Look, I am not a redneck asshole. I am by far not a flag waving, beer swilling, pickup truck riding American. I take issue with what I see people with my own eyes do. I take issue with people that act like they are owed something because they are a 'minority.' No... you are not owed anything. Work for what you get. Immigrants in the 1920's realized that the only way that they would survive in America and build a better life for their children was to do as much as they could to integrate into American life.

When someone calls me a racist because I would expect that they would want to fit into the country that they live in... there is something drastically wrong.

I am not talking about Illegal Immigrants... let's get that one straight.


***Edited to add: My Dad wanted me to place a comment on here for him. He is a lawyer and a long standing member of the ACLU and he agrees with my position. Not that it makes any difference to anyone.***

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RE: Philly Restaurant Owner Asks Patrons to Order in En... - 6/10/2006 6:09:47 PM   
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I have to disagree with the obligation here.  I think the owner of a business should have the right to run his business in any way he pleases.  If the public doesn't like the way he runs his business, the public has the right to not patronize his business and thus put him out of business.


Harry:

I am pretty sure, though not positve that this in incorrect.  I think when operating a business that is open to the public, there are certain regulations that they have to abide by. 


I'm dead certain that there are one whole hell of a lot of regulations they have to abide by.  Many of which, although not all of which, I disagree with.  My blanket statement quoted above was a bit broader than I intended.  Despite what LAM thinks of me, I'm not a totally lazy fairy.  Regulations which require that food in restaurants be reasonably safe to eat, that scales in a market be accurate, that merchants not discriminate against people because of the color of their skin, are good.

On the other hand, I feel that the State has no business telling bar or restaurant owners that they may not allow their customers to smoke, that they must take orders in languages they don't understand, or a great many other things.

Having read the article, I think that the business owner's decision is stupid, but none the less that he has the right to make it.  And his competitors have the right to exploit the stupidity of it to their gain and his loss, as they are doing.

I am a native of the City of Brotherly Love, although I haven't been there in thirty years.  I live in Arizona, sixty-five miles from the Mexian border, where the battle over ILLEGAL immigration is huge.  But, regardless of how they feel about it, no businessman around here in his right mind would refuse to serve a customer who speaks only Spanish.  In fact, a great many businesses dealing with the public start new employees who are bilingual in English and Spanish at a higher rate of pay because it's such a useful skill.

And by the way, my vote was for "Who really gives a rat's ass?"


Ah...I understand.  Actually you *did* say "I think" in your post....I ran over it a bit too quickely.

I agree ...Who gives a rats ass?  All I know is if I owned that business, Id have a damn picture chart up if I had to.  I'll be damned if Im going to lose business over a trite political statement.  Id be more than happy to help someone out, and then Id ask them how to say "have a good day in spanish";  because thats just how I am.  Who gives a fuck that someone wont speak English.  Freedom is what American stands for.  Unless someone is commiting a crime, live and let live. There are alot of cons to *not* speaking the language.  Someone who chooses not to learn, will have to deal with the communication gap.  Its no one's problem but their own. 

I have noticed the trend towards bi-lingual as well.  You open the paper to look for a job and a large percentage of them now want bi-lingual only.  I think its everyone's universe, no one is going to starve if they dont speak english. Maybe its time for all the native-born American cry babies to stop taking it for granted that English was their birth language. 

English is the most widely spoken language in the world.  No wonder its alot easier when we're tourists in Europe.  Because half the people in THAT country, speak the language of  THIS country.   So why cant America be bilingual or tri lingual or whatever the fuck it wants to be?   Ok...yeah its hard to communicate with someone who doesnt speak english well, but so what?  We gonna hold a gun to their heads and refuse to let them use the toilet or order a burger until they can say "I gotta take a shit" in english???.   Whats the point?   As long as their paying their taxes and not breaking any laws, let them speak whatever language they choose.  If someone doesnt want to serve them, Im sure someone else will be more than happy to take their dinero down the street. 

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