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What 'progressives' are you referring to ? Teddy Roosevelt, Warren Buffet, Michael Bloomberg ? The term 'progressives' can take on any connotation one wishes.

Yes, the conservatives, at least those from the 'rigthteous' right are watching the progressive social agenda become much more popular than their hypocritical and often ignorant, uninformed way.

They prefer what the policies of the 'W's" of the world and what others on the right have brought us...the indentured (debt ridden) divided, impoverished serfdom of the new world order.

How is that progressive social agenda working in Chicago, or Detroit neighbor?

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One of these day you are going to figure out that there are homophobes and religious nuts on the left too. Then who are you going to hate?

Care to name a few of them?
(Helpful hint: neither Stalin, Hitler nor Pol Pot were lefties, whatever Rush says...)

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Conservatives Are Losing The Culture War

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One of these day you are going to figure out that there are homophobes and religious nuts on the left too. Then who are you going to hate?

Care to name a few of them?
(Helpful hint: neither Stalin, Hitler nor Pol Pot were lefties, whatever Rush says...)

...he has to call them leftists or 'progressives' because they were all right wing (police-state) fascists dictators and they need to lie, obfuscate, confuse and mislabel all historical right leaning undemocratic regimes.

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I'm still trying to figure out why the Republican party is so against marriage that doesn't fit a narrow definition.

Not surprising. You've been told time and time again yet you continue not to understand. Explaining it to you is futile. You claim marriage is but a civil contract yet 2000 years of history and culture say otherwise. It is that aspect of your lack of understanding which I'm still trying to figure out. Why is it you just don't get it?

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There exists within the left a subset known as Progressives. Not all leftists are Progressives (just as not all conservatives are neo-cons).

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Well, that's the whole point of the neocon label in the first place, is it not? To separate the crazy big government chickenhawk credit bubblers from actual conservatives...
(That said, there do seem to be far more neocons than conservatives on the right these days.)

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Well, that's the whole point of the neocon label in the first place, is it not? To separate the crazy big government chickenhawk credit bubblers from actual conservatives...
(That said, there do seem to be far more neocons than conservatives on the right these days.)

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Well, that's the whole point of the neocon label in the first place, is it not? To separate the crazy big government chickenhawk credit bubblers from actual conservatives...
(That said, there do seem to be far more neocons than conservatives on the right these days.)

Agreed.

Hillwilliam - Same old tired points. If marriage is a "Sacred vow before God" then why are aetheists and agnostics allowed to marry?
If it is not a civil contract, then why does it require a judge and not a preacher to dissolve one?


Because such has only existed since the secular State declared such.

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Sounds like you support the belief that secular law should not be allowed to be the law of the land. Are you growing your beard long and wearing a robe and headscarf as you type that?

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Well, that's the whole point of the neocon label in the first place, is it not? To separate the crazy big government chickenhawk credit bubblers from actual conservatives...
(That said, there do seem to be far more neocons than conservatives on the right these days.)

Agreed. And what I'm not sure about is whether Progressives are a majority of Liberals, but only assuredly way more vocal.

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

What 'progressives' are you referring to ? Teddy Roosevelt, Warren Buffet, Michael Bloomberg ? The term 'progressives' can take on any connotation one wishes.

Yes, the conservatives, at least those from the 'rigthteous' right are watching the progressive social agenda become much more popular than their hypocritical and often ignorant, uninformed way.

They prefer what the policies of the 'W's" of the world and what others on the right have brought us...the indentured (debt ridden) divided, impoverished serfdom of the new world order.

How is that progressive social agenda working in Chicago, or Detroit neighbor?

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I know, I know, the right wants to party and let somebody else...cover the costs. Yes, most...not all but most politicians will say just about anything to get and remain elected...the right is easily the most guilty party...not the progressives.

Prove it, show us the burned out husk of a major city in a conservative state. Detroit was once known THE MOTOR CITY, they once were THEE place automobiles were made. Chicago is now a cesspool of shootings, and flash mob assaults. Show us where a conservative run city has turned out as bad as either of these examples of progressive leadership.

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I know, I know, the right wants to party and let somebody else...cover the costs. Yes, most...not all but most politicians will say just about anything to get and remain elected...the right is easily the most guilty party...not the progressives.

Prove it, show us the burned out husk of a major city in a conservative state. Detroit was once known THE MOTOR CITY, they once were THEE place automobiles were made. Chicago is now a cesspool of shootings, and flash mob assaults. Show us where a conservative run city has turned out as bad as either of these examples of progressive leadership.

Houston. Traffic is unbearable. The murder and violent crime rate is substantially higher than either Chicago or Detroit. Pollution is terrible.

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Gay bashings are way way down. The police respond very seriously when it does happen.
We still don't have marriage equality but the Governor has made some noise in support.
The last of the abortion opponents have stopped protesting the clinics here. It's been years since anyone even got an anti abortion bill a vote in either house of the state legislature.
The state science standars were redone a few years back to include more discussion of evolution. The creationists seem to have moved out of state seeking more gullible suckers.
We still have a fair number of unions and union members. The unions held off Wal-Mart's entry into the city for years until they got substantial concessions (there is even a quiet move underway to unionize a city Wal-Mart).

So all in all the progressive social agenda is doing quite well in Chicago.

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Across a span of four days, more than 40 shootings and 10 homicides were reported in Chicago over the Memorial Day weekend -- a big jump when compared to the four homicides reported during the same holiday weekend last year. Among those injured by gunfire was a 7-year-old girl, who was listed in good condition Saturday evening.

The weekend was the city's bloodiest since mid-March.

Early Tuesday, Ivan Alanis, a 13-year-old boy, became yet another Chicago victim of gun violence. Alanis was fatally shot around 2:20 a.m. while eating pizza at Laurie’s Pizzeria and Liquors, 5153 N. Broadway, with his sister, CBS Chicago reports. He was pronounced dead at 3:16 a.m. at Advocate Illinois Medical Center.

Despite the violent weekend, however, McCarthy insisted that the Chicago Police Department's efforts to address gang violence are proving effective, and have actually led to a 7 percent reduction in the number of shootings since March, the Chicago Tribune reports. Gun seizures, too, are up 20 percent since the program has been implemented, according to CBS, while overall crime is down.

Still, homicides in the city so far this year are up nearly 50 percent when compared to last year.

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There were similar attacks in Streeterville last year. News organizations at first called them "flash mobs," but that made the police angry. These young people didn't mob up to dance. They mobbed up to hit people.

And, in at least two separate incidents last weekend, the one involving the doctor and another in which a Michigan man's jaw was broken, robbery was not the motive.

They didn't rob them. They beat them for fun.

The doctor knows that in other neighborhoods, people are being killed, not merely beaten.

"But it's unsettling when they beat you for pleasure and nothing else," he said.

Streeterville is no war zone. The war zone is far to the south and the west, neighborhoods where gang violence spreads terror every weekend, as if Chicago were Afghanistan.