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Any other professional pulls a stunt like that, they're fired.
I deal with fuckwittery every day of the week in my work. Do I have outbursts at the people responsible? NO.
This guy has a nice cushy 6 figure job with lots of perks. If he can't handle it, his ass needs to be shipped home and someone found who will reflect well on his employer.
A politician can't afford to have representatives who act like they have Tourette's in public.

I'm not defending what the guy did. I am saying that in the grand scheme of things it doesn't amount to much. so, no one is ever allowed a do-over where you work? No room for compassion at all?

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So, asking a hack in a wheelchair if he's sitting comfortably is going to endear a presidential nominee to the common man. Right.

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminTheta

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Seems to me we are slowly getting a list of people who are not allowed to question Romney on here.

The left, foreigners, reporters....... And thats just off the top of my head.

This is a very good point and I hope that you don't mind if I use it to make a point.

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So, asking a hack in a wheelchair if he's sitting comfortably is going to endear a presidential nominee to the common man. Right.

Uhm... no (and I have no idea what the hell you're referring to)... but telling some dipshit reporter, trying to "dig up dirt" (because that's there job, don't you know) would. Be honest, if George Carlin had ever been elected President... his press conferences would have been fucking awesome.

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I dont care what it says about the reporters, its their job to dig up dirt.

Again, what does that say about someone's character if they regard it as their job to "dig up dirt" rather than the truth?

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If an aide loses his cool like that & so easily, then imo he shouldnt be doing that job.. He is just not in control of himself and not trained well enough.. but then I have never been impressed by hot-heads..

Who says it was "so easily?" Does this guy have a reputation for loosing his cool? If so then you have a case, if not, then how about cutting him a little slack? In a job where loosing one's cool could endanger lives (eg, airline pilot, 911 dispatcher) a much higher standard is understandable but in this case... ?

And the fact that some politician's aide told a reporter to kiss his ass is not the issue as I see it. The issue is the utter ridiculousness of people making such a big deal about it, the extrapolation of this non-issue into "AND THIS IS WHY WE MUST NOT VOTE ROMNEY!," and the expectation that I'll go along with this farce. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Romney in regard to his stance on issues... This utterly insignificant "issue" is not one of them.

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I don't get it in my profession. Why should someone as high profile as he? Like I said, the guy gets paid the BIG BUCKS. When he screws up, I don't see why someone should pat his head, give him milk n cookies and his favorite blankie and tell him it'll be OK. It's a brutal fucking world out there and if you don't have what it takes, there's always stocking shelves at Wal Mart.
A person who costs his employer credibility needs to be in a position where he can't do damage. The stakes here are astronomically high. It's nothing less than the future of the country that is at stake. It's not like he was rude to someone who wanted a super size big mac meal instead of a medium.

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The Press' job is to dig dirt, and the aide to Romney who was throwing a tantrum at the press' job is to try to make his employer look good to the media.
You reckon he was showing competence at that?

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Its a reporters job to find the truth, yes, how did they not do that in this instance? Wasnt Watergate all about "digging up dirt"? didnt the reporter get some sort of award for that? Would it be better if reporters just did candy coated powder puff stories for the public?

Since the politician he works for is wanting to be the President of the US, even tho its not life and death, yes it still does matter because his boss is wanting the highest job in the land and its his job to help him do that, not hinder him, imo..

I personally dont see this as an issue of why not to vote for Romney, people seem to have sooooooo many other issues to not vote for him on anyway..

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Its a reporters job to find the truth, yes, how did they not do that in this instance? Wasnt Watergate all about "digging up dirt"? didnt the reporter get some sort of award for that? Would it be better if reporters just did candy coated powder puff stories for the public?

Since the politician he works for is wanting to be the President of the US, even tho its not life and death, yes it still does matter because his boss is wanting the highest job in the land and its his job to help him do that, not hinder him, imo..

I personally dont see this as an issue of why not to vote for Romney, people seem to have sooooooo many other issues to not vote for him on anyway..

First, for the purposes of clarification, a note on my use of the word "dirt." I do not regard something like Watergate to be "dirt," I regard it as a serious Constitutional violation. I regard digging for "dirt," to be looking for any human foible, mistake, miscue, etc, and then presenting it as some sort of serious moral failing in order to push some sort of ideological agenda. Now on to my normal exasperated rant...

Cripes almighty! First Hill thinks that not wanting to destroy a man's career over a momentary lapse of reason equals wanting to coddle him and now you think that believing that reporters should search for truth and not just dirt equals wanting candy coated puff stories? How do you people make these fantastical leaps? Really? It just baffles me sometimes.

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I think you are taking it more "seriously" than anyone Marc..

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Its a reporters job to find the truth, yes, how did they not do that in this instance? Wasnt Watergate all about "digging up dirt"? didnt the reporter get some sort of award for that? Would it be better if reporters just did candy coated powder puff stories for the public?

Since the politician he works for is wanting to be the President of the US, even tho its not life and death, yes it still does matter because his boss is wanting the highest job in the land and its his job to help him do that, not hinder him, imo..

I personally dont see this as an issue of why not to vote for Romney, people seem to have sooooooo many other issues to not vote for him on anyway..

First, for the purposes of clarification, a note on my use of the word "dirt." I do not regard something like Watergate to be "dirt," I regard it as a serious Constitutional violation. I regard digging for "dirt," to be looking for any human foible, mistake, miscue, etc, and then presenting it as some sort of serious moral failing in order to push some sort of ideological agenda. Now on to my normal exasperated rant...

Cripes almighty! First Hill thinks that not wanting to destroy a man's career over a momentary lapse of reason equals wanting to coddle him and now you think that believing that reporters should search for truth and not just dirt equals wanting candy coated puff stories? How do you people make these fantastical leaps? Really? It just baffles me sometimes.

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Lucy is right, you seem to be taking this thing more seriously than anyone else..

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I dont care what it says about the reporters, its their job to dig up dirt.

Again, what does that say about someone's character if they regard it as their job to "dig up dirt" rather than the truth?

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If an aide loses his cool like that & so easily, then imo he shouldnt be doing that job.. He is just not in control of himself and not trained well enough.. but then I have never been impressed by hot-heads..

Who says it was "so easily?" Does this guy have a reputation for loosing his cool? If so then you have a case, if not, then how about cutting him a little slack? In a job where loosing one's cool could endanger lives (eg, airline pilot, 911 dispatcher) a much higher standard is understandable but in this case... ?

And the fact that some politician's aide told a reporter to kiss his ass is not the issue as I see it. The issue is the utter ridiculousness of people making such a big deal about it, the extrapolation of this non-issue into "AND THIS IS WHY WE MUST NOT VOTE ROMNEY!," and the expectation that I'll go along with this farce. There are plenty of reasons not to vote for Romney in regard to his stance on issues... This utterly insignificant "issue" is not one of them.