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DarkSteven -> Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 3:22:39 PM)

While I fault W for his governance, there's no question that his campaigning style was deadly effective. Karl Rove got much of the credit, but he didn't do it alone. There should be a bunch of sharp GOP campaigners. But I'm not seeing them!

Romney's campaign has been anything but stellar. As his GOP opponents pointed out, his winning primary strategy was to smother them by outraising and outspending them. Now it's the general campaign and Romney's looking lost. He's been on the defensive due to Bain and his tax returns, and hasn't been able to get any traction, even on the economy. During his overseas tour, he quit talking to the media except for a few soft interviews, and his latest promise was that he would do "something dramatic" to better the economy but wouldn't say what.

What happened? It looks like Romney isn't using any of the battle-hardened GOP campaign veterans. Santorum and Gingrich are barely supporting him, and Palin and Bachmann are pushing their own agendas and couldn't be bothered to support Romney. Cain, Perry, and Hunstsman have pretty much dropped out of the process. The party that once said its goal was to make sure that Obama is a one-term President seems to have decided not to fight him.

What happened? Did Romney make that many enemies? Or did the GOP fragment to that degree?



DomKen -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 4:14:54 PM)

Romney was never really considered a "twue" movement conservative so that wing of the party, the only wing with any real power left, is not falling over themselves to help him. He beat a bunch of second and third tier opponents in the primaries and even then it was a hard road.

The base won't get fired up behind him for the obvious reasons, Mormonism and Bain.

with out the base and without the professional opertives, who mostly work for the SuperPACs now anyway,I can't see how he will manage to put on an effective national campaign.



dcnovice -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 5:40:28 PM)

FR

It's August.



Tumblweed -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 6:16:13 PM)

I think it highly possible that the republicons WANT Obama to win. I'm sure they did when they ran McCain. Look at what it would take to fix this mess and tell me why you wouldn't want to leave it to someopne else. I mean the Bush mess actually. Like that team throwing matches when the Olympics folk started that round robbin horseshit.

Competition is supposed to be the process of elimination. Bad enought the NFL has wildcards, but this is 100 times worse. So Bush fucked it up completely. Now nobody can fix it so let someone else NOT fix it. The strategy is obvious. By himself he is going to repeal Obamacare, put porn filters on all new computers and overturn Roe v Wade. If you believe that I have an excellent business opportunity for you, in Antarctica selling air conditioners. NO COMPETEION ! Or, fight in Iraq for 100 years.

Weed



Winterapple -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 6:26:29 PM)

I think his campaign is lackluster because he's a lackluster wishy washy kinda guy.

The base isn't enthused by him they
were just less enthused by his rivals
who were a pretty sorry bunch of
specimens. He has McCains problem to
in that his fellow republicans suspect
he has left leanings. Some of them are
never going to overlook what he did
as governor of Massachusetts. Some of
them will never forgive him for ever
going to Massachusetts.

His deer in the headlights with the press
seems to come from aan who isn't use
to being questioned being questioned.
And let's face it Willard is not the sharpest
knife in the drawer.

I think sometimes the party elders decided
to sit this election out. But they had to
run someone so they picked Willard the
Dullard.



slvemike4u -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 6:27:34 PM)

No one,absolutely no one voluntarily cedes political power,least of all culture warriors like the professional politicians at the top of the Republican party .Believe me they want to win,it is their cross to bear that they are stuck with this flat line that is Romney.



DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:02:08 PM)


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No one,absolutely no one voluntarily cedes political power,least of all culture warriors like the professional politicians at the top of the Republican party .Believe me they want to win,it is their cross to bear that they are stuck with this flat line that is Romney.

What he said. The Radicals' problem, and hopefully the nations salvation, is that they are so obsessed with their culture war that they persistently self destruct. If it weren't for their well oiled Ministry of Propaganda keeping the marks confused, abused, and defused, they would be well on their way to the fate of their predecessors - the Whigs and Know-Nothings.
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Tumblweed -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:14:34 PM)

You write pretty well sometimes Vik.

Weed



servantforuse -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:16:29 PM)

This is still summer. Most voters are not yet paying attention to the election in November. Romney is raising more money than Obama and spending less than Obama. Give his campaign a month or so.



slvemike4u -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:19:15 PM)

The basic problem is the candidate himself,he has no discernible personality,no campaign,no matter how slickly run, can mitigate that fact.



Tumblweed -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:19:41 PM)

So say that whoever has more money wins ?

Should I reiterate ? More money WINS - who gets to run this country ? Yes or no ?

Weed



servantforuse -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:20:03 PM)

If you liberals on here want an interesting perspective on this election check out 'DickMorris.com'..You will remember him as Bill Clinton's senior advisor.



DarkSteven -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:28:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

If you liberals on here want an interesting perspective on this election check out 'DickMorris.com'..You will remember him as Bill Clinton's senior advisor.


I checked out the site. He's out in left field. One quote: "Rubio would be the strongest VP candidate — if the vetting shows the Rivera concerns are not an issue — because of his huge appeal among Latinos and his popularity in Florida."

Dead wrong. Rubio is a Cuban-American and his appeal won't cross over to any other Hispanics. He isn't needed to bring the Cuban-American vote because they vote reliably GOP anyway.

He also states that if someone in the Aurora studio had a gun, they could have put down Holmes. Which conflicts with LEOs and people with CCWs that basically said that there was no way to put Homes down easily, and a confused firefight in the dark would have resulted.

Edited to add: His latest article states that Romney has a lead over Obama and it's widening. He stated: "On Friday, I saw the real numbers. These state-by-state polls, taken by an organization I trust (after forty years of polling) show the real story. The tally is based on more than 600 likely voter interviews in each swing state within the past eight days.

Yeah, right. The guy is claiming that his unnamed source trumps all the polls that are named and backed up. He is actually claiming that there is a legitimate poll that does not disclose its name or results. That's insane.



DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:35:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Tumblweed

You write pretty well sometimes Vik.

Weed

Thank you! It's what I do for a living.
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servantforuse -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 7:41:22 PM)

Obama has one big problem. This election will come down to the economy, and he can't run on that issue. It has been a disaster and is getting worse month by month.  



Owner59 -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 8:07:59 PM)

No one is going to give up planned parenthood,SS or the ACA because the jobs numbers aren`t rising as fast as folks would like.....


Think again.......



DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 8:10:09 PM)

Well now, from what I've seen, the economy is inching ahead bit by bit - not great, mind you, but improving. As for Obama, all he has to do to defuse that Red Herring is make a campaign on the Radicals' persistent stonewalling of the numerous economic legislation. It wouldn't hurt to toss in the Radicals' so-called 'economic legislation' as well. If the Dems play hardball, this could be a disaster for the Radicals.
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servantforuse -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 8:11:58 PM)

Remember another Clinton stragetist , James Carville.? "It's the economy, stupid". This election will not be decided on who supports planned parenthood.



DarkSteven -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 8:15:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Obama has one big problem. This election will come down to the economy, and he can't run on that issue. It has been a disaster and is getting worse month by month.  


Actually, the Obama folks are finding out that they can attack Romney effectively.

I still haven't figured out the economy issue - will people blame the GOP, who destroyed the economy, or Obama, who has failed to fix it?



servantforuse -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/6/2012 8:20:51 PM)

DaNu, The unemployment rate just went from 8.2 percent to 8.3 percent. That is not inching forward. That is going backwords.



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