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mnottertail -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 9:56:06 AM)

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/108/hr3289

http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelandsecurit1/a/IraqCost.htm

the use, and in the case of the Bush administration abuse, of supplemental appropriations to finance government operations, and notably the war in Iraq.
The supplemental appropriation is a very old and time-honored budgeting device. As the name implies, it covers additions (or supplements) to the money government spends that are not covered in the regular federal budget (I have discussed this phenomenon in National Security for a New Era, 3rd edition). In that book, I quote a useful definition from OMB Watch of what supplementals are: “spending legislation, generally but not exclusively requested by the President, intended to address a need not known or foreseen when the annual budget for a given fiscal year was drawn up.”  The clearest example of a supplemental appropriation would be emergency funds for a natual disaster such as the response to Hurricane Katrina, and indeed, much of the initial relief effort for that event was provided for by a supplemental appropriations bill. Historically, supplementals were accompanied by “offsets,” reductions in spending elsewhere to compensate for emergency expenditures. 
The problem is that the supplemental appropriations process has been extended beyond unforeseen emergencies to entirely foreseeable (and foreseen) non-emergencies. Over the past several years, the most obvious example has been funding for the Iraq War, most of which has been funded, directly or indirectly, “off budget,” as the process is sometimes referred to. It has also been accomplished without offsets.
Why has this been the case? The major reason is that it obscures the amount of federal spending generally and for specific purposes, if it is the desire of any administration to do so. Supplemental appropriations spending does not appear in the annual accounting of federal spending versus revenue collections, meaning it is not calculated into the federal deficit for any given year. The money is spent just like regular budgetary allocations, but when the books are closed, it does not appear as an inflationary impact on federal deficits. This alone made it a particularly attractive device for a Bush administration that was running up record deficits without the impact of supplementals. It also made the cost of the Iraq War and defense spending gnerally appear much more modest than it in fact was. Moreover, the Bush administration generally provided no offsetting reductions to moderate the impact. Finally, supplementals generally receive nowhere near the public scrutiny of the regular budget, making them an attractive device for in effect hiding potentially controversial expenditures of public funds. Iraq certainly qualifies in that regard.




count up all these and get back to us while we laugh at you.





Winterapple -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 10:12:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: Winterapple
And the view from the cave isn't
a very reliable one, Stone Agers.

Plato swears by it.
[;)]


There's no Plato in any of those caves.
Just some copies of The Road to Serfdom
which few if any of them have actually
read. They let Glenn Beck do their readin'
for them.[;)]




Moonhead -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 10:56:13 AM)

Fair enough.
We can barely see out of the cave of serfdom, and only guess that something exists outside of the cave of serfdom by the shits who expect us to vote for their privelleges screeching about our sense of entitlement...
(As Plato didn't say)




vincentML -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 11:56:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Remember another Clinton stragetist , James Carville.? "It's the economy, stupid". This election will not be decided on who supports planned parenthood.


Ross Perot took 19% of the vote. "It was Perot, stupid."




Lucylastic -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 2:58:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Tumblweed

I think it highly possible that the republicons WANT Obama to win. I'm sure they did when they ran McCain. Look at what it would take to fix this mess and tell me why you wouldn't want to leave it to someopne else. I mean the Bush mess actually. Like that team throwing matches when the Olympics folk started that round robbin horseshit.

Competition is supposed to be the process of elimination. Bad enought the NFL has wildcards, but this is 100 times worse. So Bush fucked it up completely. Now nobody can fix it so let someone else NOT fix it. The strategy is obvious. By himself he is going to repeal Obamacare, put porn filters on all new computers and overturn Roe v Wade. If you believe that I have an excellent business opportunity for you, in Antarctica selling air conditioners. NO COMPETEION ! Or, fight in Iraq for 100 years.

Weed

Ive been saying very similar to this since before Obama won:) its a farce of clusterfuck proportions, devastating for the people suffering thru it all, but just a bad game on the behalf of BB, CU, and the one percent.

buncha wanker scum suckin ball strokers




Moonhead -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 3:10:06 PM)

They ain't stroking my balls, Lucy.




Lucylastic -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 3:58:48 PM)

they are only capable of stroking another members balls, you is too common for their "tastes" dahlink!!!
Im not home right now but I had a couple of awesome pics to share with you,lol, dammit..will have to wait now




TheHeretic -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 6:22:22 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Winterapple
And the view from the cave isn't
a very reliable one, Stone Agers.



Hey, now, Winterapple!  My man-cave is quite modern, thank you very much.  Keep in mind, the view from the vegan aisle at Whole Foods isn't all that reliable, either.  No matter how this election breaks, there will be people saying, "I can't believe X won - I don't know a single person who voted for him." 




Winterapple -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 7:57:46 PM)

On that we agree, including the vegan aisle.[;)]
If Romney pulls it off I can say that almost
everyone I know voted for him.
If Obama wins almost everyone who knows
me can say "Geez, there's more like her than I realized."




Musicmystery -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 8:17:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Obama has one big problem. This election will come down to the economy, and he can't run on that issue. It has been a disaster and is getting worse month by month.  

Unfortunately for Republicans, the country hasn't forgotten how we got here, or who brung 'em.


Actually you have forgotten... Or ignore the fact that the Dems have had control of the check book since 07.



You have no clue what we're talking about.

STRUCTURAL problems, the gifts that keep on giving, were set far before '07.

Pretend if you like.




Musicmystery -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/7/2012 8:20:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Remember another Clinton stragetist , James Carville.? "It's the economy, stupid". This election will not be decided on who supports planned parenthood.


Ross Perot took 19% of the vote. "It was Perot, stupid."

Not when the incumbent couldn't run on the economy.

Perot took the anti-NAFTA vote. Bush and Clinton both supported it.




SternSkipper -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/9/2012 4:32:46 PM)

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While I fault W for his governance, there's no question that his campaigning style was deadly effective. Karl Rove got much of the credit, but he didn't do it alone. There should be a bunch of sharp GOP campaigners. But I'm not seeing them!



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SternSkipper -> RE: Why is Romney's campaign so lackluster? (8/9/2012 9:54:12 PM)

The Math In Algebraic terms:
Success=(Vulture_Capitalism*1)>=Entrepreneur=(CrackDealer*1)


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