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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 6:26:53 AM   
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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 6:55:33 AM   
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seriously Rich, late term abortion is the same as adopting out a preemie??



Huh?  Well obviously not, Lucy.  Had the coffee not kicked in when you replied?  I'm saying, in my own way, that the mother has the right to have the fetus out at any point in the pregnancy.  If that is late enough for the baby to survive, then let someone who wishes to adopt take it home, instead of killing it.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 7:49:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
seriously Rich, late term abortion is the same as adopting out a preemie??



Huh?  Well obviously not, Lucy.  Had the coffee not kicked in when you replied?  I'm saying, in my own way, that the mother has the right to have the fetus out at any point in the pregnancy.  If that is late enough for the baby to survive, then let someone who wishes to adopt take it home, instead of killing it.


People might be surprised that this is possible but, to a larger degree than they would think, it is.

My ex wife was a 6 month gestational premie and through her, I met many people who also were.

Please remember, also, that when talking about pregnancy, we're talking about lunar months as opposed to 30 or 31 day months (it makes the time somewhat shorter, even).

I will NEVER advocate late-term abortion but, if women are so bent on doing this, I think more people should be aware that this may very well be an option.



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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 8:29:10 AM   
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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 9:04:01 AM   
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Tell that woman who died from a perforated uterus from an abortion at Planned Parenthood in Chicago just how safe it is.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 9:43:53 AM   
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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 10:58:58 AM   
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By that argument, we should also ban knee surgery.

Ban heart surgery too. My great uncle died on the table.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 11:54:22 AM   
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Huh?  Well obviously not, Lucy.  Had the coffee not kicked in when you replied?  I'm saying, in my own way, that the mother has the right to have the fetus out at any point in the pregnancy.  If that is late enough for the baby to survive, then let someone who wishes to adopt take it home, instead of killing it.


Rich... come on.... why are you taking this stance when you know its definitely not true.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 11:54:33 AM   
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incidentally, if you could get that woman to remove those signs, I would be for it, whatever the fuck it is.  Just sayin.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 11:56:19 AM   
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6 month gestational premie


24 weeks...

6 months gestational is a medical term... and they use the 4 week method to determine the age... not the "lunar calendar"

My god, can you men spin this any harder?

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 12:32:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		i am so sick of people who claim affordable birth control doesn't exist. there's condoms and spermicide which used properly have about ther same effective rate as low dose birth control pills. there is a free form of birth control called abstinence. there is natural birth control which takes a little effort but is also free. all these people who claim comprehensive education is unavailable are the same ones who use the internet to play angry birds all day but to educate themselves?heaven forbid anyone take some goddamn personal responsibility!!! in a country with as much personal freedom as we have one would think personal responsibility should go along with it but apparently most peoples' families didn't bother to teach that. i have a close relative who had two late term abortions because she felt being "free" meant not being responsible for her actions, and that included unwanted pregnancy. the only reason she didn't have a third is because she woke up that morning after having a nightmare the baby screamed through the procedure. i have always wanted to slap the crap out of her for being ignorant but her nightmares are enough. i have always taught my children, all boys, three of them those "ugly black babies" that i adopted, that they were responsible for birth control, never leave it to the girl alone. i have taught abstinence is the first defense against unwanted pregnancy. how many of their classmates learned that? not enough! they have free internet access to look things up on their own, i will not restrict that. if they can't ask me, i want them to be able to find the answers. part of the reason our society is a fucked up as it is lies in the convoluted views on sex, education and freedom. our military reminds us freedom isn't free, well kids, no freedom is ever completely free, there are always consequences. you want to play with fire, eventually you will get burned.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 12:45:22 PM   
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there's condoms and spermicide which used properly have about ther same effective rate as low dose birth control pills.


Lets see

Spermicidal gel, foam, suppository, or film

Perfect use failure rate... 18%

Male latex condom

Perfect use failure rate ... 2%

Combined oral contraceptive pill

Perfect use failure rate... 0.3%

Progestogen only pill

Perfect use failure rate... 0.3%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_birth_control_methods

Your argument might have been valid at some point. You lost me within the first couple of lines. If you want to be taken seriously, try fact checking your beliefs before posting them as facts.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 1:25:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Before I moved back to town, I lived for 15 years in a very isolated house that was a half mile up a private gravel road clearly marked no trespassing. Virtually the only uninvited people I had come to my property were religious types trying to witness, or share the goodnews, or whatever the fuck they thought they were doing. It usually got pretty unpleasant, mainly because I always thought the no trespassing signs should have been enough, without me having to tell them to get the fuck off my property. I wanted them to remember never to come back, and to tell their friends.
One of the reasons that I was so vehement was because I was living alone in an isolated property, far from help, and having a stranger come to my door scared the piss out of me. In light of what happened to George Tiller, maybe this doctor felt the same way I did - scared. That may explain his poor choice of words, just as it explained my behavior when confronted by unwanted guests on my own doorstep.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 3:38:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
To my mind, the first person to raise their voice in a debate is wrong.


The Jesus freaks came to the guy's home. Case closed.


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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 3:40:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyRedRoseToo
i am so sick of people who claim affordable birth control doesn't exist.


I thought the going rate was $3K per year?

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 4:54:11 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyRedRoseToo i have taught abstinence is the first defense against unwanted pregnancy.


Seriously, what chance is there of that? Kids get sex pumped at them from the year dot. This is a social problem, not an individual problem. I know the Right has made a lot of headway with the line 'What happened to individual responsibility?' but this is horseshit. The question should be, 'What happened to social responsibility?' The very idea of trying to teach sexual abstinence in an environment in which sex is rammed at kids to the point of saturation on every billboard and TV programme or advert, in every magazine or book, is ludicrous. The adult world bellows at kids at every minute of every day that sex is desirable. Abstinence, in any big way, is not going to happen.

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 5:04:05 PM   
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i have a close relative who had two late term abortions because she felt being "free" meant not being responsible for her actions, and that included unwanted pregnancy.


Bullshit

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 5:55:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Rich... come on.... why are you taking this stance when you know its definitely not true.


Because it's my stance on the issue, Tazzy, whether the government agrees or not. 


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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 5:58:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama




She's cute, Kalikshama.  I'd be willing to take the risk of needing to hand her a couple hundred bucks...

What has she got to do with the subject of the thread, though? 

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RE: An abortionist talks too much - 8/10/2012 6:14:31 PM   
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By that argument, we should also ban knee surgery.


Don't ban it. Just over-regulate it. That seems to be your answer to all of society's other ills.


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