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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 12:34:45 PM

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 12:40:42 PM

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I think I understand the issue here. Youre dont understand the meaning of the word "implication" do you?

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Granting certain posters wild claims that Biden was referring to wall street enslaving blacks - the implication there is that blacks are too stupid to be bankers, or to work their way up on wall street

Apologize for what ? You still havent backed up your claim.......Seems to be a feature of your posts.

You understand nothing except spin. Again, when asked, you fail to back up your bullshit. All I have asked for you to do is show where people have said what you claim they have (bolded above)..... you cant, so you move the goalposts.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 12:44:20 PM

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His problem is that he is salivating to make this a racial issue... its not.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 12:54:19 PM

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The lefts real problem is how intelligent, quick footed and capable the Romney / Ryan team has proven itself to be

GEEEEEEZE, dude, will ya give us a beverage warning. My monitor has coffee all over it now.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 1:51:10 PM

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No of course not

The mans got a D by his name

How could this possibly be a race issue

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His problem is that he is salivating to make this a racial issue... its not.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 1:57:55 PM

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Because the context determines if its a race issue. You are leaving out whole segments of society by insisting he meant "blacks".

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/political-punch-biden-clarifies-chains-remark-romney-calls-statement-outrageous/

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:00:58 PM

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He was speaking of the Banks....you remember TARP, don't you Tom?

Too BIG to fail and how they had us where the hair grows short....it wasn't that long ago! You were here posting right along side me at the time....

All we need is more AIG, Coutrywide, WAMU, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers.....yep, we need more of those fine people...that way we can have TARP II....Right?

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:18:59 PM

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That you can't understand or refuse to understand that I havw proven it is immaterial to me, but let me ask you this - what is your understanding of what was meant when Biden told that mixed race crowd that (I am paraphasing now) "they were going back in chains if the Republicans weren't stopped"

Taz insists it had nothing to do with race, while in my opinion it is all ab out race. Others maintain Biden meant financial slavery

What say you

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You understand nothing except spin. Again, when asked, you fail to back up your bullshit. All I have asked for you to do is show where people have said what you claim they have (bolded above)..... you cant, so you move the goalposts.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:32:15 PM

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Some folks look at nude art and see dirt and filth.....

It`s THIER mind, that`s in the gutter.......bigot.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:36:13 PM

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I have spoken many times, even before Obama had the glimmer of being a president, or before he ran, about craven corporate capitulists and their pimping us off into slavery to corporations.

So, it aint a race thing, it aint a man thing, its all america they are planning that for.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:37:53 PM

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"Back in chains" has only one meaning in that context

Love the attempt at spin though, it makes me laugh

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Because the context determines if its a race issue. You are leaving out whole segments of society by insisting he meant "blacks".

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/political-punch-biden-clarifies-chains-remark-romney-calls-statement-outrageous/

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:39:38 PM

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Hey, the slavery metaphor is dead on.

Go Joe.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:42:03 PM

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"Back in chains" has only one meaning in that context

Love the attempt at spin though, it makes me laugh

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Because the context determines if its a race issue. You are leaving out whole segments of society by insisting he meant "blacks".

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/political-punch-biden-clarifies-chains-remark-romney-calls-statement-outrageous/

According to you, any black person who hears that song should be offended.

Slavery takes many forms.. perhaps you should educate yourself on those.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 2:45:37 PM

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Yup and most folks....normal folks, who have lives and bills, know the reality and what the VP meant.

When you glom off your mom and don`t work or pay your own bills like Liz here......no wonder they`re in an alternate reality.....

Romney going off about race was his own embarrassment.......

As well,Romeny trying to use the new black panther party to scare folks will only make him look as depraved and as foolish as Liz does.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 3:06:24 PM

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No one has worn out more knee pads servicing the banking lobby that Barack Obama

Look at his cabinet, it is a whos who of the banking industry

For Obama to send Biden out to warn blacks that theyre going back into chains if Romney touches his lobbyist buddy's special new rules, well - it just doesnt get any lower than that

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He was speaking of the Banks....you remember TARP, don't you Tom?

Too BIG to fail and how they had us where the hair grows short....it wasn't that long ago! You were here posting right along side me at the time....

All we need is more AIG, Coutrywide, WAMU, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers.....yep, we need more of those fine people...that way we can have TARP II....Right?

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 3:56:44 PM

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Well of course it does, it gets much much lower, and the teabaggers are in there doing it up to their elbows.

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 4:15:03 PM

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That you can't understand or refuse to understand that I havw proven it is immaterial to me, but let me ask you this - what is your understanding of what was meant when Biden told that mixed race crowd that (I am paraphasing now) "they were going back in chains if the Republicans weren't stopped"

Taz insists it had nothing to do with race, while in my opinion it is all ab out race. Others maintain Biden meant financial slavery

What say you

I say your talking bollocks, but whats new. You have made several claims and refuse to back them up by pointing out the posts they have been made on. Instead you use this passive aggressive crap. Again you avoid a straightforward request.

Dont paraphrase, the text of the speech is easy enough to find. Biden was talking about Wall Street being unchained and the electorate being put back in chains, a metaphor for debt. You tried to make it a race issue and dont like being pulled on it.

Its funny that you are so enamoured with Ryan, when he wants the banks to be unchained, which led to the crash in the first place. Given you piss and moan about the Bush`s bailouts, how do you reconcile both viewpoints ?

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 6:34:16 PM

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He was speaking of the Banks....you remember TARP, don't you Tom?
Too BIG to fail and how they had us where the hair grows short....it wasn't that long ago! You were here posting right along side me at the time....
All we need is more AIG, Coutrywide, WAMU, Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers.....yep, we need more of those fine people...that way we can have TARP II....Right?

You do realize that the "Too Big To Fail" crowd is bigger, using bailout money to purchase smaller banking institutions? And, an analysis of the Frank-Dodd Financial "Reform" would not have prevented the shit hole we're in (probably because Frank and Dodd are both being paid off by Fannie and Freddie).

We have more of those people. We haven't been able to nail any of them to the wall yet, either... pisses me off that we can't find something to nail them with (and, don't assume I'm implying that Obama's DoJ isn't doing their job... I seriously believe they are).

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/15/2012 10:54:12 PM

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Its funny that you are so enamoured with Ryan, when he wants the banks to be unchained, which led to the crash in the first place. Given you piss and moan about the Bush`s bailouts, how do you reconcile both viewpoints ?

PoliteSub, how could you? I'm shocked and disappointed with you. You are making a mockery of your moniker!

How dare you ask sensible logical questions of the looney Right? How dare you expect them to furnish sane, thought-through answers! It's like asking infants to explain astrophysics. Simply not on, I tell you, not on!

Can't you see how irrational you are being? Demanding logical answers when you know full well there haven't got any. And even if there were, the looney Right would be the last people to have them, let alone explain them coherently. This is as silly as it gets. You are being totally unreasonable.

Less of this or we will have to send the men in white coats knocking on your door! And they won't be burning crosses!

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RE: New Lows For The Obama Campaign - 8/16/2012 4:20:53 AM

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Since when did saying "ya'll" become a color issue?

About the same time a non black person said "you people" and, about the same time non blacks were discovered to be breathing and walking at the same time.

You've never met any white people from the South, have you.