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Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 8:41:40 AM   
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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 8:43:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		He resigned.  I am not sure what he could be arrested for, there is no law he violated.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 8:51:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why arrested? It isn't pedophilia or child molestation. The 17 yr old was over the age of consent in Minnesota. When it comes to sex he was legally an adult.



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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 8:54:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm sorry folks but a 57 year old man fucking a 17 year old is pedophilia.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 8:55:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thats the thing, it was lawful and consensual.  Our lewdness laws condemn drunken showings of your peener and telephone solicitors and thats about the whole shit-o-ree.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 8:57:21 AM   
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Thats the thing, it was lawful and consensual.  Our lewdness laws condemn drunken showings of your peener and telephone solicitors and thats about the whole shit-o-ree.


Sex in a public place is legal now?

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 8:57:27 AM   
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I'm sorry folks but a 57 year old man fucking a 17 year old is pedophilia.



Pedophilia has a specific definition, Hilly. Pedophilia involves PREpubescent children. At 17, if he hasn't gone through puberty yet he needs a doctor.

Pederasty is different from pedophilia. This was pederastic homosexuality and the 17 yr old responded to his ad. He was looking for no-strings sex too.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 9:02:15 AM   
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I'm sorry folks but a 57 year old man fucking a 17 year old is pedophilia.



Pedophilia has a specific definition, Hilly. Pedophilia involves PREpubescent children. At 17, if he hasn't gone through puberty yet he needs a doctor.

It MIGHT be pederasty, but that is different from pedophilia. This was pederastic homosexuality.

Who cares if it's hetero or homo?
57 fucking 17 needs to be looking at bars.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 9:04:08 AM   
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I'm sorry folks but a 57 year old man fucking a 17 year old is pedophilia.



Pedophilia has a specific definition, Hilly. Pedophilia involves PREpubescent children. At 17, if he hasn't gone through puberty yet he needs a doctor.

It MIGHT be pederasty, but that is different from pedophilia. This was pederastic homosexuality.

Who cares if it's hetero or homo?
57 fucking 17 needs to be looking at bars.


And if he was, say, 6 months older and 18? What difference would that six months make?

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 9:08:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		At that time, the person is an adult.

what if? what if? what if?

As a state rep, is he in a position of authority? "The age of consent in Minnesota is 16.

If the actor is in a position of authority, the age of consent is 18."


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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 9:16:32 AM   
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At that time, the person is an adult.

what if? what if? what if?

As a state rep, is he in a position of authority? "The age of consent in Minnesota is 16.

If the actor is in a position of authority, the age of consent is 18."



He answered a Craigslist ad. Do you really think the ad said he was a state rep? Do you really think the 17 yr old knew he was a state rep (in a position of authority) by sight?

Do I think he was an ass? Yes. I think the 17 yr old was one too (hell, I think anyone who answers an ad on craigslist for no-strings sex is an idiot). But I highly doubt the 17 yr old even knew who he was, so his position of authority is irrelevant if he didn't know he WAS a position of authority.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 9:17:00 AM   
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You can run thru 609 altogether but thats the law in MN.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 9:23:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Another instance where we need a national guideline.... for age of consent.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 9:30:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		well within 36 months the consent is assumed at 13 and then goes from there it is until 16 at which time it is allie allie in free, 17 and anything.

I woulda  liked to play skins and shirts with you at 16.  You could have been that little deerskin dressed indian maid on the land-o-lakes butter carton, down on her knees and mouth open.....

We could have done it in a parking lot, if you wanted. Your knees and everything, no skin off mine.





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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 10:07:17 AM   
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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 10:11:03 AM   
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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 1:28:57 PM   
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Thats the thing, it was lawful and consensual.  Our lewdness laws condemn drunken showings of your peener and telephone solicitors and thats about the whole shit-o-ree.


Sex in a public place is legal now?


I imagine that the POLICE OFFICER who was there would have arrested anyone committing a crime, that being of course his job.

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 1:40:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		According to police reports, Gauthier admitted to the act.
The first-term legislator wasn’t charged in the alleged July 22 encounter because the legal age of consent in Minnesota is 16 and no money was exchanged, according to the St. Louis County attorney’s office. Police say the two had oral sex behind a rest stop pavilion in Duluth after the teen responded to Gauthier’s Craigslist ad looking for a “no strings attached” sex.

Thats from the link.  Nobody saw him, it was after the fact.  The cops, probably having nothing better to do, going to grab a doughnut saw the guys walking back from the pavilion and asked what up G?

They filed the report and a city news guy harvested it from the sheets the next day.

Or something like that, it could have been bearclaws or bismarks.  But something like that.  

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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 1:50:44 PM   
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At that time, the person is an adult.

what if? what if? what if?

As a state rep, is he in a position of authority? "The age of consent in Minnesota is 16.

If the actor is in a position of authority, the age of consent is 18."



He answered a Craigslist ad. Do you really think the ad said he was a state rep?¹ Do you really think the 17 yr old knew he was a state rep (in a position of authority) by sight?

Do I think he was an ass? Yes. I think the 17 yr old was one too (hell, I think anyone who answers an ad on craigslist for no-strings sex is an idiot†). But I highly doubt the 17 yr old even knew who he was, so his position of authority is irrelevant if he didn't know he WAS a position of authority.


¹I'm sure the ad didn't say it but I'd be willing to bet he told the young man who he was.

I find the idea of age of consent being lower than 18 for anyone who is over 21 to be disgusting but, I know one state that lowered the age because they had a ridiculous amount of Stat. rape cases brought (in most cases) by parents that involved 18 year old boys and 17 year old girls (rough ages, obviously).

I would be willing to bet that his position of "power" was one of his "selling points".

†I'd write more but, I need to go remove my ad from craigslist.



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RE: Resign hell, he should be arrested. - 8/23/2012 2:00:54 PM   
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