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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 3:35:18 PM

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Of course not, a successful GOP presidency is far more damaging to Hillary's 2016 chances

Well, yeah, having the country collapse into chaos would be damaging to everyone...

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 3:37:02 PM

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lol.. talking about Clinton...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwLo-5vo9n4

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 5:09:44 PM

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Bill was probably the last politician of either stripe who was willing to work with the other guys and not pull this "My way or the highway" crap.

Actually, I believe that he had a very special gift for persuading people. I don't think he compromised, very much. I think he was a master at getting people to do things his way (even if they really didn't believe it to be the right way).

In the old neighborhood, we used to call people like him a "schmoozer". My view is that he was expert at it.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 6:16:25 PM

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Times and life had changed by '96. I just voted for him.

When the Lewinsky thing broke, I had a little fun with it, called a spade a spade, and figured that a little slap on the wrist was the best way to handle the lying under oath thing.

I'm sometimes told this makes me a Clinton hater.

People hardly ever get slapped on the wrists for stuff the are never criminally charged with (my presumption is your dislike for WJC is his alleged perjury?).

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Will Bill behave?

He will not only "behave". He will, as he always has when called upon to deliver a moment of unquestionable inspiration, hit one out of the park.

There is a misconception around that President Clinton is a loose canon. I disagree. I honestly think that when he wants to assume a more significant role in party politics he'll fire a little warning shot across the intended's bow, the media perks up, the intended perks up, and the role increases. He then delivers pay dirt. The man is a master at what he does.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 6:54:24 PM

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Of course not, a successful GOP presidency is far more damaging to Hillary's 2016 chances

I notice that like Ed Klein, you fancy yourself a great conservative fictional author. I believe those close enough to Hillary to comment on his 2005 novel, it had serious factual issues. Why should we believe anything he makes up regarding what his prior targets allegedly intimated to him?

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 7:31:15 PM

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What's the point of entering the discussion if you're just going to make up people's positions for them?

I've long been clear about my thoughts of Obama as Bush Light -- hardly a blind ideologue, as you're intent on passing out labels. Help yourself to one.

But it beats the shit out of Bush on Steroids. MORE military spending and MORE unfunded tax cuts are the only parts of his "plan" Mitt is very clear about (beyond ending ACA on Day One, which isn't really possible). MORE of what got us here. The Romney/Ryan plan.

All I know of you is this thread and one other. Im not making anything up that isnt plain to see in them.

Including spouting the bullshit lib bumper sticker that Bush's policies are "what got us here".

ROFLMAO....so two wars financed by TAX CUTS wasn't a recipe for fiscal disaster ?

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 7:34:03 PM

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Bill was probably the last politician of either stripe who was willing to work with the other guys and not pull this "My way or the highway" crap.

I dont think he compromised any more than Bush 2, and of course, he had no choice unless he wanted to wind up an empty chair.

So when a Republican compromises that is an example of bi-partisan leadership.
When a Democrat compromises,that's just him trying to save his skin ?
Partisan bullshit seems to be your stock in trade.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/2/2012 8:04:07 PM

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(my presumption is your dislike for WJC is his alleged perjury?).

Why are you presuming I dislike him? Or should I take my cue from you using the word "alleged?"

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 3:00:08 AM

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lol.. talking about Clinton...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwLo-5vo9n4

starts at 3 minutes

It's to bad Bill ain't on the ballot.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 8:48:46 AM

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What's the point of entering the discussion if you're just going to make up people's positions for them?

I've long been clear about my thoughts of Obama as Bush Light -- hardly a blind ideologue, as you're intent on passing out labels. Help yourself to one.

But it beats the shit out of Bush on Steroids. MORE military spending and MORE unfunded tax cuts are the only parts of his "plan" Mitt is very clear about (beyond ending ACA on Day One, which isn't really possible). MORE of what got us here. The Romney/Ryan plan.

All I know of you is this thread and one other. Im not making anything up that isnt plain to see in them.

Including spouting the bullshit lib bumper sticker that Bush's policies are "what got us here".

ROFLMAO....so two wars financed by TAX CUTS wasn't a recipe for fiscal disaster ?

No, it wasnt, and if you had a clue about economics you would know it, and if you werent in stuck in the quicksand of Blue Heaven you would attribute the current economic problems to their real cause.

Its so much fun watching liberals chasing their tails between whining about the "military industrial complex", "stimulus", and "war financed by tax cuts". It could replace cats on the internet.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 9:06:57 AM

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ROFLMAO....so two wars financed by TAX CUTS wasn't a recipe for fiscal disaster ?

No, it wasnt, and if you had a clue about economics you would know it.

Oooh....the Kool-Aid is strong with this one.

The Math, not so much.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 9:18:39 AM

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ROFLMAO....so two wars financed by TAX CUTS wasn't a recipe for fiscal disaster ?

No, it wasnt, and if you had a clue about economics you would know it.

Oooh....the Kool-Aid is strong with this one.

The Math, not so much.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 10:10:13 AM

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Of course not, a successful GOP presidency is far more damaging to Hillary's 2016 chances

Well, yeah, having the country collapse into chaos would be damaging to everyone...

I wouldnt want to hear Clinton's choice between Hillary2016 and the country in chaos under sodium pentathol.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 10:12:31 AM

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ROFLMAO....so two wars financed by TAX CUTS wasn't a recipe for fiscal disaster ?

No, it wasnt, and if you had a clue about economics you would know it.

Oooh....the Kool-Aid is strong with this one.

The Math, not so much.

Come back when you have a Masters in Economics. Till then, you wouldnt know the difference between Kool-Aid and real fruit juice.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 10:24:49 AM

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(my presumption is your dislike for WJC is his alleged perjury?).

Why are you presuming I dislike him? Or should I take my cue from you using the word "alleged?"

Oh, I'm sorry. Then you like him. It's of little concern to me.
As far as cues, I was just pointing out he was never adjudged to have lied. Whether or not he did in the total mockery of an "appearance" he was subjected to. And why not take your cue from my response to the actual question rather than the fairly immaterial perambulatory remark?
What was actually important about my post was my prediction that WJC will hit a great big home run. The DNC's Convention will have many such moments.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 10:53:47 AM

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 11:14:59 AM

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Bill always behaves; It's just that sometimes, he behaves badly.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 12:02:27 PM

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Come back when you have a Masters in Economics. Till then, you wouldnt know the difference between Kool-Aid and real fruit juice.

Hey, guess what! It's one of my professional areas.

Say Georgie has 100 apples. Each year, he gets 40 more. That's good, because he owes 30 in return for people helping him run the joint, and he uses the other ten to pay back people he borrowed from in the past. In fact, he has that surplus because the previous guy, Billie, set it up for him. 100 + 40 - 30 = 110, -10 to retire debt, = 100. A sustainable system.

Now Georgie decides he doesn't want to collect so many apples. So he decides to collect only 20 apples a year now. Shortly thereafter, he decides to start two wars, which means he'll need, in addition to the 30 apples a year he owes to people running the joint, another 10 apples per war to reward the people running those shows.

So now he has 50 apples going out each year, but only 20 apples coming in. That means 100 +20 - 50 = 70. Oops. That's what's called structural deficit. That means Georgie has put in place a repeating shortfall. Since he can't pay on the past debt, it starts growing again instead of shrinking. And next year, he starts with 70 apples: 70 + 20 - 50 = 40. Oops. And the year after that, 40 + 20 - 50 = 10. Uh-oh. What's going to happen????

Georgie figured letting apple growers keep more apples would mean they would grow even more! But Georgie skipped Econ 101 the day they talked about marginal utility. Alas, since he doesn't know this, he keeps waiting for everything to get better, by magic! But it doesn't, because he hero, St. Ronnie, quadrupled the national debt in just four years--fucking things up, proving magic money is bullshit. He missed that Billie actually understand economics and helped turn things around. But now Georgie has mucked it up again, and committed us to two wars. What to do?

Well, Georgie could devalue the apple with monetary policy. And he does. Yay! But in so doing, interest rates go very low, and since Georgie, who believes in magic money, doesn't do anything about his dismal fiscal policy, he's got nothing. Nowhere left to go. Recession.

Ooops.

So he begs Congress for a large stimulus, and runs from office, never looking back as Barry surveys the mess and rolls up his sleeves.

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RE: Wild Bill at the DNC - 9/3/2012 12:05:26 PM

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