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ownedgirlie -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 12:38:58 PM)
(Fast Reply) I think people see the words "online" and lend their own connotations to it. I serve my Master real time, but we spend a lot of time corresponding online as well. He does not have to physically be in the same room as me to teach me to think in certain ways, or grasp new concepts. I think people equate "online" to cybersex, unfortunately, when sex is only one element of the D/s or M/s dynamic. One of the college courses I am taking is online - does that mean it is fake and I won't learn anything, because I am not physically in a classroom? Odd. As for cams. Master and I use iVisit. It is a conference voice/video way of chatting. He likes to watch me sometimes - even if I'm just curled up in my chair reading. He likes to hear the change in my voice when he tells me certain things. He likes to see my facial expressions when he has me hold an orgasm for him, for his amusement. How is this different than porn, some ask? It is HIS property he is watching his effect on. As for me, I just like being in his company, by any medium. Of course I prefer to touch him and taste him and smell him, but without always having that opportunity, to simply have his attention makes me happy. :)

composer83 -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 12:43:19 PM)
ownedgirlie, taking on online class does not mean it is fake & you wont learn anything.......but how can electronic correspondance with your professor even COMPARE to an actual face to face classroom environment???? & depending on the class, sometimes the interaction with your classmates & your instructor is indeed MORE educational than anything you can read out of a book..... i think this translates to relationships as well...... i have to stick by my original response......i know i can be abrasive sometimes, but jeez, get over it, people...... ~m

jadedshadow -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 12:50:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: litleone8620 I am not looking down on online training. i understand it takes a person of higher intellect, not to mention patience, imagination, trust, etc. But everyone has their own preferences, and kudos to anyone who is willing to enter into the world of online training and even online BDSM. I apologize if i offended anyone. My comments weren't meant as such. No offense taken here, just throwing in my 2 cents for what it's worth.. [:)]. I see a lot of times people who are confused by it, don't understand, or just plain not willing to understand - and that irritates me a bit so I thought I would speak up in defense a little.. didn't mean to make it sound I was pointing fingers at you or anyone else. I just get a little on the defensive side when people blatantly take a sincere question and smash it into little pieces just because it isn't something they would prefer.. like I said tho, I do understand why some can't understand it or don't prefer it.

MissBabydoll -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 12:53:59 PM)
Hi Jane, I do a lot of online/voice work in addition to some in-person (a term I prefer to "real-time," since chat/phone interactions are in real time, as opposed to e-mail), and I like it a lot. It suits a busy schedule--I'm a PhD student and teacher and I don't have My own dungeon yet, so have to rent or borrow playspace, etc.--and can be very fulfilling. There's so substitute for warm flesh under one's hand (or cane), but the advantage of online is the opportunity for taboo-busting fantasy play that might be a lot more difficult, or even impossible in real life! My blog is http://msbabydoll.blogspot.com. By all means get in touch. Warmly, Miss B [Mod Note: IM info deleted. Personal contact info is not allowed in forum posts]

litleone8620 -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 12:54:23 PM)
It could be because i'm new to this, so i don't understand having a computer between my Master and myself. I suppose video makes it more real, and by that i am not saying an online D/s relationship isn't real or as real as r/t. I would have to agree with Composer on the whole online classes vs. an online D/s relationship. And i might be new, but when i heard/read online i didn't automatically go to cyber, i know there is more to it than that. So you do voice/video chatting; if you do that, why not just do r/t? I don't understand what the difference is between r/t and what you're doing with voice/video.

jadedshadow -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 12:55:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ownedgirlie I think people see the words "online" and lend their own connotations to it. I serve my Master real time, but we spend a lot of time corresponding online as well. He does not have to physically be in the same room as me to teach me to think in certain ways, or grasp new concepts. I think people equate "online" to cybersex, unfortunately, when sex is only one element of the D/s or M/s dynamic. One of the college courses I am taking is online - does that mean it is fake and I won't learn anything, because I am not physically in a classroom? Odd. As for cams. Master and I use iVisit. It is a conference voice/video way of chatting. He likes to watch me sometimes - even if I'm just curled up in my chair reading. He likes to hear the change in my voice when he tells me certain things. He likes to see my facial expressions when he has me hold an orgasm for him, for his amusement. How is this different than porn, some ask? It is HIS property he is watching his effect on. As for me, I just like being in his company, by any medium. Of course I prefer to touch him and taste him and smell him, but without always having that opportunity, to simply have his attention makes me happy. :) Exactly ownedgirlie..exactly! Just because it's online doesn't mean it's fiction. It also doesn't mean it's any less real or rewarding. Yes, there are more obstacles to overcome, but that for me just adds to the challenge..and I love finding new ways to meet that challenge [:D]

cloudboy -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 5:34:02 PM)
I'm not sure a Domme a who veiws submissives as "human ATMs" deserves great respect.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 6:30:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: composer83 ownedgirlie, taking on online class does not mean it is fake & you wont learn anything.......but how can electronic correspondance with your professor even COMPARE to an actual face to face classroom environment???? & depending on the class, sometimes the interaction with your classmates & your instructor is indeed MORE educational than anything you can read out of a book..... i think this translates to relationships as well...... i have to stick by my original response......i know i can be abrasive sometimes, but jeez, get over it, people...... ~m No need to tell me to get over anything. What a pompous attitude. So we have different opinions. So what? Being insulting only shows lack of class. Regardless, I learned a hell of a lot in my class, which resulted in an A grade. But, I'll ask my Master about that. Being a professor who teaches both in class and online courses, I'm interested in his opinion. By the way, there was a lot of interaction with fellow students in my class, by way of an online bulletin board. Kinda like we're interacting here. While I prefer actually groveling at his feet, I do not at all discount his phone calls (particularly the one I just had, where he helped me sort my thoughts on something stressful). Regardless, anyone who voices an opinion as the only correct way doesn't warrant much credibility from me.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 6:32:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy I'm not sure a Domme a who veiws submissives as "human ATMs" deserves great respect. OK but that wasn't what I was talking about. Were you replying to me specifically, or was that a "Fast Reply" thing?

ownedgirlie -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 6:35:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jadedshadow Exactly ownedgirlie..exactly! Just because it's online doesn't mean it's fiction. It also doesn't mean it's any less real or rewarding. Yes, there are more obstacles to overcome, but that for me just adds to the challenge..and I love finding new ways to meet that challenge [:D] Submission is in the heart and mind. Its expression in physical acts is just that - an expression. While there is nothing more satisfying to me than being in the presence of my Master, that does not mean I am not submitting to him when not physically with him.

MasterandCommand -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 6:48:17 PM)
Online is a total JOKE, it is nothing close to the real thing and anybody that defends it as being real in my mind is just fooling themselves because they are doint it and they just want it to be real. There are multiple reasons as to why this is a true statement.... first of all online there is not the actual psychological connection between parties, secondly there is not physical presence that enforces the attitude and the threat of obediance. Another reason is that it is far easier for the sub to just say forget it and turn off the computer allowing her far greater control belief than otherwise would be felt. It is especially amusing to me for those who call themselves online slaves, give me a break!!! The onlyu slave aspect associated to this is your own fantasy and erroneous belief that you are a slave... it is impossible to be a online slave, in fact the term itself is counter productive. If you want to be serious then get off the damn computer and live it for real... find a Dom that is not a player or a faker that has actual experience... every Dom has a different style. Matter of fact, I would say flat out that 90% of all the so called slaves in this lifestyle are really submissives and not slaves by any means... it is just that being a slave is so cool that everybody want to be called a slave. So if you think online is anywhere like the same as real time, you are totally fooling yourself. If you wnat to have the experirence of being a true and real slave then come on over for a spell...

noblesseoblige -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 6:55:30 PM)
I do agree with you , but it is a good way for new people to get good info and get acquainted with the lifestyle. It is some peoples only way into the lifestyle.

ownedgirlie -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 6:56:59 PM)
I hope you were just using Fast Reply and not replying to me directly, because I do serve real time. And trust me, I have the experience of being "real" without ever having to glance in your or anyone else's direction. I just don't get the need to be so insulting. Oh well, maybe it's just my upbringing.

BreakMeShakeMe -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 7:04:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterandCommand Online is a total JOKE, it is nothing close to the real thing and anybody that defends it as being real in my mind is just fooling themselves because they are doint it and they just want it to be real. There are multiple reasons as to why this is a true statement.... first of all online there is not the actual psychological connection between parties, secondly there is not physical presence that enforces the attitude and the threat of obediance. Another reason is that it is far easier for the sub to just say forget it and turn off the computer allowing her far greater control belief than otherwise would be felt. It is especially amusing to me for those who call themselves online slaves, give me a break!!! The onlyu slave aspect associated to this is your own fantasy and erroneous belief that you are a slave... it is impossible to be a online slave, in fact the term itself is counter productive. If you want to be serious then get off the damn computer and live it for real... find a Dom that is not a player or a faker that has actual experience... every Dom has a different style. Matter of fact, I would say flat out that 90% of all the so called slaves in this lifestyle are really submissives and not slaves by any means... it is just that being a slave is so cool that everybody want to be called a slave. So if you think online is anywhere like the same as real time, you are totally fooling yourself. If you wnat to have the experirence of being a true and real slave then come on over for a spell... Ye who boast the louder...and condemn the rest... do not know as much as they want others to believe. What you may not believe is real.... or true... to you.. is to others... so drop the holier than thou attitude...and get off everyones back about they think is real or not. Being a real time ....real life submissive... (and no I do not think it's "cool" to be such).... i've too had to use the internet to be in contact with ones i've met off line as well. Doesn't make me.. or them.... any less real... true...

slavejali -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 7:09:28 PM)
MasterandCommand: I would have agreed with you at one point. However, I did meet my Master online and I cannot say my feelings of slavery were not re-invoked by our online interaction. It was a totally frustrating, insane experience for me..but the feelings were there. Saying that, it wasn't until we met that those feelings could really be actualised. One thing worries me about D/s interaction online, it was from an experience I had. One time during our chats, I fell into subspace, really deeply. It was a very scary space to be in, when the reality was, I was alone in my house. I dont know what happened, maybe I had hooked into past thoughts or something..it just makes me wonder how beneficial to people it is to play with D/s online....it could make you nuts, like really.

Saint -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 7:24:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jadedshadow It is extremely more difficult, and anyone who really wants it, and not just wanting a quickie cyber scene has to have the patience of a saint. lol Really? Im a role model suddenly! WOW! [:D]

Invictus754 -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 7:29:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GoddesssJane [&:]I know and understand that most people in BDSM are into real time, but I'm not. I'm exploring being a Domme online and perhaps will move to real time. Meanwhile I'm looking for any info that you could point me to for learning, and online training?[:-] Taken by itself, it seems as if she is truly wishing to learn BDSM, but when you factor in the profile: quote: Superior couple with the female as the main domme, into cuckhold slaves, humilation,sissies,forced bi, consentual blackmail,wallet raping, human atm's Tributes will be expect ! All I see is someone phishing for money. Of course - I also factored in the poor spelling, bad grammar and incorrect use of the apostrophe. This is how I envision her (well, plus a WalMart whip and her husband inside the trailer opening the Alpo for dinner) : [image]http://www.garysweetman.com/web%20images/FASH-Trailer%20trash.jpg[/image]

BreakMeShakeMe -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 7:40:11 PM)
Invictus............LMAO..... thank you ...needed that laugh....

Level -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 7:47:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterandCommand Online is a total JOKE, it is nothing close to the real thing and anybody that defends it as being real in my mind is just fooling themselves because they are doint it and they just want it to be real. There are multiple reasons as to why this is a true statement.... first of all online there is not the actual psychological connection between parties, secondly there is not physical presence that enforces the attitude and the threat of obediance. Another reason is that it is far easier for the sub to just say forget it and turn off the computer allowing her far greater control belief than otherwise would be felt. It is especially amusing to me for those who call themselves online slaves, give me a break!!! The onlyu slave aspect associated to this is your own fantasy and erroneous belief that you are a slave... it is impossible to be a online slave, in fact the term itself is counter productive. If you want to be serious then get off the damn computer and live it for real... find a Dom that is not a player or a faker that has actual experience... every Dom has a different style. Matter of fact, I would say flat out that 90% of all the so called slaves in this lifestyle are really submissives and not slaves by any means... it is just that being a slave is so cool that everybody want to be called a slave. So if you think online is anywhere like the same as real time, you are totally fooling yourself. If you wnat to have the experirence of being a true and real slave then come on over for a spell... What in the hell is the "threat of obediance"????? Online.... it can be real, in that you have two real human beings interacting. As owned said, take the cyber-sex "how hard can I type 'whap whap whap'" aspect out, and there can be learning, and the desire to obey, and the desire to control. Not for everyone, and though I have experienced it, not for me, but if two folks can find some joy from it, I'm not going to be the one to shit in their stew. Level

ownedgirlie -> RE: Online training... (6/12/2006 7:49:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Level What in the hell is the "threat of obediance"????? Level, maybe some have to raise a hand in order to be obeyed.

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