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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 11:44:43 AM   
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I think a pro would be your best bet. Make sure they're good looking, lots of dommes who engage in this type of activity are hideous.



Hideous? How unfortunate. But how many of us are figures of beauty from that particular angle?


Excuse me, but my backside is a thing of beauty!

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 11:45:55 AM   
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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 11:51:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Fp4

I think a pro would be your best bet. Make sure they're good looking, lots of dommes who engage in this type of activity are hideous.



Hideous? How unfortunate. But how many of us are figures of beauty from that particular angle?


Excuse me, but my backside is a thing of beauty!



As is mine!! And actually... I've been told that my cooter is pretty fine too. So forget what I said!! Change that to, "If you're looking for poop, don't be so concerned about the container!"

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 11:55:23 AM   
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Lockit- you wonder if you have some serious self-confidence issues- that is obvious, hence your absolute need to control everything in your life.
Lady H, you have been kind and forthcoming with your thoughts...thanks again.
I realized that I need to find a Dom without paying tributes, that is most likely why I come into a meeting with requests and demands.
That is why I started this thread.
I need to learn more.

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 11:56:26 AM   
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Okay if that isn't a Sunshine quote of the day, I don't know what is!

"If you're looking for poop, don't be so concerned about the container!"



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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 12:01:25 PM   
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Gee the last person to refer to me or others around here as insecure... gee... what was his name?

I laughed then too.

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 12:04:22 PM   
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It's that "requests and demands" notion that will lose you an audience.

So, let's say someone interests me. Am I interested in keeping him? Of course. Do I find out what he likes and is interested in? Certainly! And he will even get some or all of those things, AT SOME POINT. When *I* decide it's going to happen. I'm not one of those "it's all about ME" kinds of people, but when it comes to decision making, and especially when it comes to playing, it IS all about me and what I feel like doing at any given moment. He can ask for anything. I am NOT required to say yes, EVER.

Lockit speaks a bit more bluntly than I do at the moment, but I agree with her. We (speaking as "femdoms generally, based on our experience") are always being presented with wishlists by random men who think that we should be thrilled for the chance to do X to their Y. The fact is, and this is a FACT, not an opinion, that if I wanted to play every single day I could do it. I could do a different thing with a different man, at my convenience.

Did you check out the Ask A Mistress FAQ at the top of the board? Somewhere in there it talks about approaching us as people... since you've already said you're not interested in doing this kind of thing in the context of a relationship, that might make things trickier for you. Personally, I consider friendship to be a "relationship" too. I don't play with people who don't engage with ME, on a human level. When I was young, I was much more free with my energy, though there were and are things that I won't do with random people.

Good luck with that thing you have going on there.

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 12:32:11 PM   
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Again- I do not intend to disrespect anyone here!
I am unfamiliar with the protocol of the femdom culture!
I have learned a great deal with this thread!
I will resurface again, next time more educated with proper protocol and requests!
Forgive me Mistresses!
Thank-you for responding to my odd request!

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 6:16:10 PM   
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Gee the last person to refer to me or others around here as insecure... gee... what was his name?



Dunno, but did the police ever find him again?

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 6:21:13 PM   
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Why are toilet slaves and money slaves the most passive aggressive and snotty men on the site?

Not a rhetorical question. I really think there's something to this. Can anyone explain it to me?

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 6:25:51 PM   
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You know an actual money slave, RedMagic?

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 6:31:22 PM   
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You know an actual money slave, RedMagic?

What does "actual" mean? I suppose an actual slave would be a gentleman to women.

Nobody I know in real life has admitted to me that he has a fin fetish. Same thing for male toilet slaves. I have known a couple women who (as subs) were interested in scat and diapers. Extremely rare, and not something I've ever done myself, either direction.

I'm basing my question on online behavior I've encountered, and stories I've heard from a couple people I know who have engaged in findom. Essentially no real life anything was harmed in the writing of this post.

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 6:35:24 PM   
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Oh okay. I have met more than a few DL folks, and those into scat play as part of a vast array of perversions that they enjoyed. Realtime AB/DL folks are generally really cool, friendly people that enjoy the hell out of their fetish. Same with the wild pervs, who like the exotic and extreme. Perhaps the work of actually having real life experiences and making friends keeps them from being complete douches.

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/5/2012 11:42:35 PM   
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Why are toilet slaves and money slaves the most passive aggressive and snotty men on the site?

Not a rhetorical question. I really think there's something to this. Can anyone explain it to me?
I'll take a shot at it. In My opinion, quite often there are certain fetishes that are very difficult to find when it comes to casual encounters. I'm calling it casual on this instance because they do not want to invest in a) a relationship or b) financially. They want this amazingly intimate kink (because, let's face it..... Most women consider somebody's face close to their genitals intimate) and very few women want to oblige. This means they do try various methods to convince, plead, rationalize, etc to get people to engage in it with them.

I say it every time these threads come up. There's a REASON pros can charge so much for this particular kink. Very few women actually want to engage in scat play. As Hib said, watersports are easier to find a match. To date, I haven't met any female top who was into scat. Compare that to the numerous men who desire this kink and sometimes, bad behavior comes out.



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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/6/2012 6:46:45 AM   
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I am just a guy who asked a question and needed some advise and guidance.
It's funny how judgemental people are!
I had NO motive for this thread other than learing....I had NO desire to jack off while reading the statements and posts- no desire to indulge in mind twisting games like I've been accused of wanting!
Of all places.....NOT This place!
We all have kinks and desires.
To the FEMDOMS who judged me...do you think you are normal? What is normal? What is acceptable? As long as respect is present and NO criminal activity is engaged, then everything is fair GAME!
No one reading this thread is a "vanilla" type of person in regards to their sexuality.
Shame on all of you who judged me while living your life in a non vanilla world.
You think being a FEMDOM is normal?
Controlling a man and making him your pet or submissive little bitch is not normal!

Ladypact, you are very accurate with your assumption- thank-you for sharing your thoughts.
LadyH- through all of this, you have been respectful! Thank-you as well!

It still funny to me............even here, in this forum, you can find the judgemental individuals who feel that they are better than someone!


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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/6/2012 6:49:30 AM   
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Lockit- sorry! That's my opinion of you....insecure.
You don't know me....why take such an offense to my questions and statements.
Viewing my comments as personally as you did;makes me wonder why you have such insecurity issues.
Hence your willingness to control!
Get some therapy please!

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/6/2012 7:07:00 AM   
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No one's taking your comments personally, why are you being so defensive? Did someone say your kink was horrible? They did not. Uncommon, yes, not to most people's taste, certainly, but not a thing of evil.

Calling us 'abnormal' for being femdoms is not the way to win friends here. Dominance IS all about control, in whatever form that takes.

Under each person's avatar is a button that says 'hide'. I suggest you use it to make Lockit's post disappear.

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/6/2012 7:45:18 AM   
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As have been stated everything is possible, however this is a relatively rare kink so you might have to look for a while. I have to add one thing though, I would think long and hard about hiring a pro for toilet play, you would then be into contact with body fluids from a stranger and that is rather risky, I would not do it, I would not risk my health for a kink but it is up to you. I am interested in wet play but would never do it with someone I am not fluid bonded to.

Now even if you are not consuming anything you will be in close contact with the stuff so chances are you can get something in your mouth or nose or eyes by accident and then that is a health risk. Unless you are willing to have unprotected sex with the pro or other Dom you are playing with then you should not do toilet play with them.

Also your kink is completely reasonable it is nothing to be ashamed of and there is nothing wrong with it what so ever the only think I have a problem with is you calling a woman's poop for her essence, my essence is not the leftovers after my body have pulled nutrients out of the food I eat, my essence is my soul, my Spiritual being or if you are not religious my mind and the core of my personality.

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With brown showers- I want to have a Mistress sit over my face-and gently allow me to perform oral upon her backside-and slowly feel her essence leave her body.


This makes me think of a very kinky psychic vampire sucking someone's soul out through their ass which is a quite disturbing image.

Now please do not take the above as an insult for I do not mean it so, it is perfectly okey that you are into toilet play it is just the word essence that bothers be as basically someone's essence mean their essential part, the most important part of them and the most important part of a woman is not her excrements.

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I have never allowed a Dom to take full control of me, I usually end up twisting things in my favor....and she gives up and allows me to indulge.
There has been power struggles...b/w me and the Dom.


Then probably what you are looking for is a Top and not a Dom, a Dominant would want your submission not just to do kinky stuff to you on command, a Top however is a play parter so then you can just plan it out what both of you want to do. The problem is when you say you want a Dom and you really want a Top and then Dominants feel that you are trying to take advantage of them, which understandably pisses many off.

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The confusion on my part is that both the Dom and the Sub are part of a business deal correct? IF the Sub does not express his desires and how he wants them performed to the Dom without requesting, questioning performance and expectations...where is that confusing to you or as an act of disrespect or replaced control?
I think your responses to my posts without merit.


Here is the difference. I am more interested in spanking and whipping than Aswad is, but if I come to him and say. Oh cupcake, you feel Dominant when you whip me so you should do that all the time for that is how you express your Dominance and I want it done this and this and this way very much presented as I would order from a menu at a restaurant then that is not being submissive, that is being Domiant and demanding that he cater to my wishes. Instead when we talk of sex I tell him that I enjoy spanking so he know that, and often he do involve spanking in our play but when and if he desires, I do not order up a spanking like I would a pizza and then tell him he should like it.

Now there is a big difference between going to a Pro who get paid to cater to your needs and having a relationship with a Dom where you actually have to cater to hers. Now one thing you could look for is a Sadistic sub who is willing to be commanded around on the other side of the whip. I am actually both a marchosist and a sadist, but I am submissive so I am (and no not with scat sorry not my thing) but yes I am looking for a Dominant bottom play partner who would like to deliver a laundry list of things he want to have done to him, you could perhaps find a sub like me, but for a Dominant person, male or female they like the subs to cater to their needs and then they might give the sub a little of what he or she want in return as a reward.

If I where rich I would not mind going to a Pro and pay to have my ideal session, but I can not expect that type of things from someone I served as a Dominant, there is the difference. When you are at a restaurant you can expect the chef to make you exactly what you want, but you can not expect your wife at home to do the same, when you pay for it you set the rules, you buy a service that is something different than a relationship and that you have to understand.

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I am unfamiliar with the protocol of the femdom culture!


There is only one universal rule here so it should be easy to learn. Teat a Dominant woman like a person with thoughts, feelings and interests of her own and not like a kinkomat, you also get bonus points if you in addition treat her like a lady, everything else is details, good luck.

I wish you well

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/6/2012 7:49:01 AM   
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I think a pro would be your best bet. Make sure they're good looking, lots of dommes who engage in this type of activity are hideous.


What do you know what type of appearance the OP prefer in women? Often what one find hideous another find gorgeous and vice versa. Also let me ask you, with that attitude have you ever gotten a woman to come to your bed...ever, and also while we are on the subject, you have allot to say about how women look, but how do you look? I notice that you have not posted a picture, are women the only ones who need to be good looking according to your standards?

I wish you well

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RE: Toilet slavery and a Mistress - 9/6/2012 7:50:11 AM   
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Dunno, but did the police ever find him again?


No but I found some mighty fine soup meat cheap here the other day. :P

I wish you well

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