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maybemaybenot -> can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 3:14:35 PM)

why this woman has not been dismissed as a delegate ? Speaking completely bipartisanly: this is completely unacceptable. No NY Democrat Party representative has been available to speak to this woman's threats.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/06/mitt-romney-death-threat-_n_1862605.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012




subrob1967 -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 4:46:42 PM)

Probably for the same reason Mayor Castro and his mother were honored guests.

The dems have no shame, no morals, and no standards.




maybemaybenot -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 4:54:30 PM)

well, I said I would be bi partisan here..... so I will say some Dems did call for Mark Alan Seigal's < another DNC delegate and Dem. Chairman > resignation after his hateful rant. Of course he did not do that, he took a leave of absence. But at least they showed some outrage and took a position. Not all, but a good number of them.




Politesub53 -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 4:57:39 PM)

You would have though so. This type of language isnt acceptable, especially at party conferences.

Good to see the secret Service are investigating though.




erieangel -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 4:59:08 PM)

There is no justification for what the NY delegate said.

However, Mrs. Castro's perspective of the Alamo is her perspective, born out of her lived-culture.

Native Americans say the white man "stole" their lands too; American citizens will say the land was there for the taking.

Who is right?





Politesub53 -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 5:06:09 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967

Probably for the same reason Mayor Castro and his mother were honored guests.

The dems have no shame, no morals, and no standards.



What, standards like the Republican rep who called the President a liar on the house floor.





FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 5:06:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

why this woman has not been dismissed as a delegate ? Speaking completely bipartisanly: this is completely unacceptable. No NY Democrat Party representative has been available to speak to this woman's threats.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/06/mitt-romney-death-threat-_n_1862605.html?utm_hp_ref=elections-2012


My guess is because he "delegate" status comes from the voters of the state of NY, the National committee is waiting for a finding from the secret service to unseat her. It's far too late to revoke delegate status.
    See, it's not like these people are the republican party and this woman is gay or a Ron Paul supporter.
Relax, she's under surveillance, been told not to leave town. and if they find 'smoke' as subrob I am sure the the republicans will have their 20 minutes of happy dancing. Or maybe we should just marry her off to the GOP's golden child Lee Harvey Nugent.




maybemaybenot -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 5:24:12 PM)

Earlier this year the DOJ dropped it's charges against the guy who made death threats against Obama when he was campaining in 08. I remember reading at the time that that decision would make it harder or complicate SS investigations of similar threats. It also said the DOJ itself said the decision not to appeal the case to the SCOTUS wuld encourage more threats.

So, I'm not so sure the SS will be able to do a whole lot.

I will try and find the article and post it, but it clearly said the decision not to appeal the ruling that the guys threats were not legit, set a very bad legal precedence for future cases and the SS.

The male wrote something online to the effect of "Fuck the N***** and shoot the N*****, he'll have a bullet in his head " < paraphrasing>. He said he was drunk at the time and didn't mean it. The Appeals Court said it wasn't a real threat.




tazzygirl -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 5:29:24 PM)

I have to wonder, considering this woman's age, how much of a real threat she is either.




servantforuse -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 6:20:54 PM)

It's just another double standard. If this had happened at the republican convention last week, Chris Mathews and the rest of the looney left would be appliplect.




slvemike4u -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 6:33:34 PM)

They would be what ?




servantforuse -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 6:52:22 PM)

appliplectic. I didn't think that looked right. Sorry about the Giants, and I mean that. Jerry Jones sucks.




TheHeretic -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 6:59:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

It's just another double standard.


Oh yeah.  She'd be hung out as the face of the Republican party, if this stupid old hag had said it at the RNC.

How though, does someone get to be a convention delegate, without being sure of the office she's nominating to?





slvemike4u -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 7:00:52 PM)

Apoplectic.
Thanks ,about the Giants I mean...It's okay though,only the first game.Football season doesn't really start till the Yankees are done playing....and wehold the Championship parade....lol




tazzygirl -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 7:01:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: servantforuse

It's just another double standard. If this had happened at the republican convention last week, Chris Mathews and the rest of the looney left would be appliplect.


Not a double standard. She is being investigated, just like all those death threats against Obama.




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 7:05:58 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

So, I'm not so sure the SS will be able to do a whole lot.


Hopefully I have finally gotten used to this quoting scheme.
You know what? The Secret Service hasn't lost a candidate or President since 1963 and the got a good wake-up call about security in 1981.
   I am sure if the woman is a threat to ANYONE, because the venue is under their jurisdiction, she is gone.

quote:


The male wrote something online to the effect of "Fuck the N***** and shoot the N*****, he'll have a bullet in his head " < paraphrasing>. He said he was drunk at the time and didn't mean it. The Appeals Court said it wasn't a real threat.


  Think back to January about the law Obama signed that allows them to take ownership of a location and detain or repel any parties at their discretion.

THAT Law has not been challenged in your SCOTUS example. And it gives them the authority to detain indefinitely I believe.

So if your original post was about a genuine concern for either Romney or the President, I hope this allays your concerns.




TheHeretic -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 7:13:12 PM)

Tazzy, I think the double standard being referred to is how this story will be treated by the media, rather the stupid old hag's pending unpleasant experience with the Secret Service.

It's a assumption of course, but one based in long experience. 

I'm off to watch the Prez do what he is best at, as he tries to paint a pretty picture around four years worth of what he pretty much sucks at.




slvemike4u -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 7:19:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Tazzy, I think the double standard being referred to is how this story will be treated by the media, rather the stupid old hag's pending unpleasant experience with the Secret Service.

It's a assumption of course, but one based in long experience. 

I'm off to watch the Prez do what he is best at, as he tries to paint a pretty picture around four years worth of what he pretty much sucks at.

So Beck,Rush and Hannity go ape shit when some right wing nut threatens this President ?




FMRFGOPGAL -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 7:27:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Tazzy, I think the double standard being referred to is how this story will be treated by the media, rather the stupid old hag's pending unpleasant experience with the Secret Service.

It's a assumption of course, but one based in long experience. 


Ummm I'm thinking that if Ted Nugent had made his pathetic attempt to get back in the press on the eve of Romnwey's speech, it would have taken a seat in obwscurity just like this one.
  Be sure to let us know if you see her. We've got a bounty going here.






tazzygirl -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/6/2012 7:33:16 PM)

And yet not a word was said about the branding of the President.




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