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LookieNoNookie -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 3:24:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: erieangel There is no justification for what the NY delegate said. However, Mrs. Castro's perspective of the Alamo is her perspective, born out of her lived-culture. Native Americans say the white man "stole" their lands too; American citizens will say the land was there for the taking. Who is right? Nations have always taken land....it's been done for time immemorial. Only North America (Canada included) has given status and declarations of sovereignty to those they (purportedly) "stole" from. "War is Hell". Shit happens.

Politesub53 -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 3:43:30 PM)
Historical nonsense....... You really think the native Americans got any real sovereignty ? "War is hell" "Shit happens"........ That makes it all okay then huh.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 3:59:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Historical nonsense....... You really think the native Americans got any real sovereignty ? "War is hell" "Shit happens"........ That makes it all okay then huh. Nope. Didn't say it was fair....I said it was a fact. History is written by the winners and the North Americans are the only ones in history that have offered granted license to those they conquered. I'd say that's a fairly amazing thing in history, all things considered. (And by the way...it's not "Historical nonsense"...it's historical fact).

tazzygirl -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 4:07:32 PM)
They had no choice.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 4:25:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl They had no choice. Nor did any other conquered race...in history. We, however, offered a vastly different bargain, than any other govt. in history. Whether it was "fair" is really immaterial....it was light years more advantageous than any other govt. has ever offered in all of recorded history. Wanna bleed for those who didn't get a "fair deal"? Go for it...enjoy your angst for those who suffered. You won't change the facts.

Politesub53 -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 4:38:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie Nope. Didn't say it was fair....I said it was a fact. History is written by the winners and the North Americans are the only ones in history that have offered granted license to those they conquered. I'd say that's a fairly amazing thing in history, all things considered. (And by the way...it's not "Historical nonsense"...it's historical fact). Firstly, the Native Indians had no choice, they were moved by force to land they didnt want to go to. Secondly, many conquering nations could only keep control by cutting deals with the local populace. The British, Romans, Muslims, persians all did this, to name but a few.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 4:46:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie Nope. Didn't say it was fair....I said it was a fact. History is written by the winners and the North Americans are the only ones in history that have offered granted license to those they conquered. I'd say that's a fairly amazing thing in history, all things considered. (And by the way...it's not "Historical nonsense"...it's historical fact). Firstly, the Native Indians had no choice, they were moved by force to land they didnt want to go to. Secondly, many conquering nations could only keep control by cutting deals with the local populace. The British, Romans, Muslims, persians all did this, to name but a few. Thanks for making my point. Appreciated.

Politesub53 -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 4:53:40 PM)
I am dizzy watching your spinning.

tazzygirl -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 5:05:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl They had no choice. Nor did any other conquered race...in history. We, however, offered a vastly different bargain, than any other govt. in history. Whether it was "fair" is really immaterial....it was light years more advantageous than any other govt. has ever offered in all of recorded history. Wanna bleed for those who didn't get a "fair deal"? Go for it...enjoy your angst for those who suffered. You won't change the facts. LOL No, the "they" was the government. The government had no choice.

maybemaybenot -> RE: can some one tell me...... (9/7/2012 7:59:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FMRFGOPGAL So if your original post was about a genuine concern for either Romney or the President, I hope this allays your concerns. Nooo, it wasn't about concern. I am sure the SS will take care of things. It was more about... why is she still a delegate, why was she not removed, why didn't some prominent person in the DNC call her out < so to speak >. My comments about the decision against Obama's death threat were more editorial. As in.... if this woman IS a true threat the SS will have a harder time, as they will with any threat against a public figure. As I said in an earlier post: Mark Alan Seigal was called out by some prominent Dems about his disgusting tirade and they called on him to resign, He did not but he took a leave of absence. He is a DNC delegate and Fla. Dem. Chairman. I don't get why this woman was allowed to keep her delegate status. I don't think anyone can really answer that... it's just sad the state of affairs in politics and the hatred and ugliness on all sides.

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