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DomKen -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:34:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas ...and if anyone thinks the position that America is falling is extreme then I only need to remind you that we had many of our best deplomatic staff horribly murdered last week and the Ambassador sodomized before being beaten and killed. A father and husband. That is a lie. The ambassador died of smoke inhalation and was taken directly to the nearby hospital when discovered. His body was never in the hand of the attackers.

tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:41:29 PM)
Isnt your disability renal?

tweakabelle -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:41:56 PM)
nm

DomKen -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:44:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Isnt your disability renal? Yes. Still took a while to get approved and involved a lot of paperwork.

tweakabelle -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:44:53 PM)
quote: Mitt was really talking about these people and how it must end (as Clinton sought to do when he was in office) or we as a Nation will collapse. He is right, this cannot continue no matter who gets elected. Who get elected will influence how it will end, as a Nation on it's way back to prosperity under Mitt or a total collapse with people starving and riots and something like New Orleans during Katrina with looting and violence only it happening nationwide. That is the choice we have to make in November. Goodness me! Is this nonsensical hyperbole or hyperbolic nonsense? Is Arturas seriously suggesting that unless the US stops people defrauding the welfare system then it will "collapse"? Is this ridiculous or hilarious? .... or both? The nation that survived World Wars I & II, 9/11 Bush the Dumber, the most powerful richest nation in the history of the world is going to "collapse" because a few people with MS are playing the system? Puhleeeeeaaasssseeeee! If it's this easy to cause the collapse of the USA, better ensure no one tells Al Quada! Does this constitute a National Security Emergency? Why isn't Homeland Security onto this? Perhaps Arturas is talking about a different USA to the one I know, which is the one located on the North American continent between Canada and Mexico .... Perhaps he's talking about a USA that only exists in his head and imagination. Creating imaginary alarmist threats and discussing them in hyperbolic doomsday language is a constant feature of Right wing discourse everywhere.

subrob1967 -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:46:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 I think if he ever admits cops are indeed public servants, his whole stance on the matter needs kicking in the trash can. There is no shame in working for the State or the Fed, so you have to wonder about a denial. What denial? Where have I denied I work for the state, or paid income taxes? Answer this, if one is actually paying payroll taxes, how does that make them a leech? Now if I collected a salary, but DIDN'T pay income taxes, I'd be considered a leech. Keep grasping at straws Guys, and party on Barack, party on progressives.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:46:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas ...and if anyone thinks the position that America is falling is extreme then I only need to remind you that we had many of our best deplomatic staff horribly murdered last week and the Ambassador sodomized before being beaten and killed. A father and husband. That is a lie. Has that ever stopped him before?

tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:48:04 PM)
Yes.. and its one of the disorders that pretty much get rubber stamped for approval.

tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:49:04 PM)
quote: What denial? Where have I denied I work for the state, or paid income taxes? Answer this, if one is actually paying payroll taxes, how does that make them a leech? You just outed yourself. Can you see where?

DomKen -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:56:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 I think if he ever admits cops are indeed public servants, his whole stance on the matter needs kicking in the trash can. There is no shame in working for the State or the Fed, so you have to wonder about a denial. What denial? Where have I denied I work for the state, or paid income taxes? Answer this, if one is actually paying payroll taxes, how does that make them a leech? Ask Mitt. 60% of the 47% he dismissed do pay payroll tax, at a higher rate than his federal tax burden truth be told.

slvemike4u -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 3:37:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, I think you make up bullshit examples to try and prove your points. http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-expedite-ussi.htm As someone who has undergone that process they start sending you SSI immediately and they process your documents quickly but it is still 3 to 6 months to get approved for SSD for something that can be diagnosed with a simple blood test. Ken that was not my experience,for one thing you can not apply till you have been out of work for 6 months...and than the pro forma(at least that is how my lawyer described it to me) denial followed by a hearing months and months after. By the time I got my first check it was for 2 and a half years back pay. If your experience was more streamlined ,good for you...but I'm scratching my head wondering why mine was so different ?

tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 3:40:19 PM)
Mike, renal disability has different rules. By the fourth dialysis, Medicare is kicking in already.

slvemike4u -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 3:50:51 PM)
At times I can be an ignorant uninformed ass...I hope no one took any offence at my stupidity Thanks Tazz,sorry Ken....the depth of my lack of knowledge is astounding

graceadieu -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 3:52:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Goodness me! Is this nonsensical hyperbole or hyperbolic nonsense? Is Arturas seriously suggesting that unless the US stops people defrauding the welfare system then it will "collapse"? Is this ridiculous or hilarious? .... or both? Well, it seems like he thinks that 47% of Americans fraudulantly live off of welfare. If that were really the case we might actually be in trouble!

Politesub53 -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 3:55:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 I think if he ever admits cops are indeed public servants, his whole stance on the matter needs kicking in the trash can. There is no shame in working for the State or the Fed, so you have to wonder about a denial. What denial? Where have I denied I work for the state, or paid income taxes? Answer this, if one is actually paying payroll taxes, how does that make them a leech? Now if I collected a salary, but DIDN'T pay income taxes, I'd be considered a leech. Keep grasping at straws Guys, and party on Barack, party on progressives. Dont blame me dude.....you said you were self employed, a clear denial of the fact you are not.

DomYngBlk -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 3:58:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 I think if he ever admits cops are indeed public servants, his whole stance on the matter needs kicking in the trash can. There is no shame in working for the State or the Fed, so you have to wonder about a denial. What denial? Where have I denied I work for the state, or paid income taxes? Answer this, if one is actually paying payroll taxes, how does that make them a leech? Now if I collected a salary, but DIDN'T pay income taxes, I'd be considered a leech. Keep grasping at straws Guys, and party on Barack, party on progressives. Under Romneys definition you are a double leech. Once cause you are a blood sucking public employee and twice cause you don't pay INCOME taxes which makes you in the 47%.

graceadieu -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 4:10:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 What denial? Where have I denied I work for the state, or paid income taxes? Answer this, if one is actually paying payroll taxes, how does that make them a leech? Now if I collected a salary, but DIDN'T pay income taxes, I'd be considered a leech. Now how about if you pay payroll taxes but not federal income tax? Are those people a leech or not? And then, how about if you get it deducted every check and then get it all back in May because of dependent child deductions, like many families? A middle-class married couple with two kids that earns $45k pays no federal income tax. Are they leeches?

DomKen -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 4:22:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, I think you make up bullshit examples to try and prove your points. http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-expedite-ussi.htm As someone who has undergone that process they start sending you SSI immediately and they process your documents quickly but it is still 3 to 6 months to get approved for SSD for something that can be diagnosed with a simple blood test. Ken that was not my experience,for one thing you can not apply till you have been out of work for 6 months...and than the pro forma(at least that is how my lawyer described it to me) denial followed by a hearing months and months after. By the time I got my first check it was for 2 and a half years back pay. If your experience was more streamlined ,good for you...but I'm scratching my head wondering why mine was so different ? Renal failure is one of a short list of conditions that gets expedited. see the link in Tazzy's post.

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