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tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 12:16:46 PM)
quote: ...and don't forget about the woman I met a little while ago who is fully disabled while actually able to work full time due to "MS", and drawing 2200 dollars a month plus her latest student government sponsored loan which she will get out of paying, again, while looking for another school to go to and get another loan. I suggest you look up "MS" and find out what you obviously dont know. And, yeah, she can work a job.. and she pays taxes.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 12:24:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas ...and don't forget about the woman I met a little while ago who is fully disabled while actually able to work full time due to "MS", and drawing 2200 dollars a month plus her latest student government sponsored loan which she will get out of paying, again, while looking for another school to go to and get another loan. May you some day walk in her shoes.

kalikshama -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 12:25:41 PM)
Colbert delivers "elegant" version of Romney's "47 percent" speech [image]http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Stephen-Colbert-screenshot-091912.jpg[/image] Mitt Romney’s infamous “47 percent” remarks from a May fundraising dinner were not a crisis, Stephen Colbert insisted Tuesday, but a triumph — finally, he said, a presidential candidate was willing to say there’s no such thing as a free lunch. “Lunch is $50,000 a plate,” Colbert said. The video, circulated by Mother Jones on Monday, showed Romney, the Republican nominee for the presidency, denounce 47 percent of American voters as “people who pay no income tax.” Subsequent analyses have pointed out that this group, that Romney “who believe that they are victims,” included the elderly, the working poor, and U.S. military personnel. “See? Romney mentioned the troops in a speech,” Colbert pointed out before leading the crowd in applause. In an effort to assist the former Massachusetts governor, Colbert then donned a top hat and tails to deliver the much-criticized remarks with more panache. “As you know, we are all gathered here this evening because I have agreed to accept the presidency,” Colbert said, affecting a posh tone. “But unfortunately, almost half — two score and seven percent — will vote for my opponent, that socialist hottentot!” Colbert’s version of Romney’s remarks, aired Tuesday night on The Colbert Report, can be seen below. http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/19/colbert-delivers-elegant-version-of-romneys-47-percent-speech/

subrob1967 -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 12:28:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen You're dependent on government right? Romney said "there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government," You're part of the group Romney thinks are worthess leeches living off the hard work of others. just like combat troops and retirees. But I don't depend on the government Ken, I depend on the tax payers of Indiana to pay my salary... You could say I'm self employed. So according to you President Obama is a leech and should be laid off first, after all he's the top leech. Next we have to lay off Congress, then all of those teachers... Hell lets fire every government employee, we don't need anyone at the IRS, they're a bunch of leeches. I'm sorry you and Skippy don't know the difference between TAX PAYERS and leeches Kenny, it's no wonder you prefer a government willing to coddle you.

subrob1967 -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 12:30:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: graceadieu quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 How does having a job and collecting a salary meet the definition of a generational welfare leech Skippy? All those Democrats, Republicans and Independents that have a job, collect a salary, and get back every dime of their federal income tax on their tax return - most of the 47% - are, apparently. Or have you changed your mind about that? The ones whom the government collect too much money from in the first place? Those people?

Arturas -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 12:32:14 PM)
...and if anyone thinks the position that America is falling is extreme then I only need to remind you that we had many of our best deplomatic staff horribly murdered last week and the Ambassador sodomized before being beaten and killed. A father and husband. This is just the beginning of the fall that is underway but must be stopped. Now. Mitt sees this and is clearly focused on stopping it and he is pained and pissed about it and he was discussing ways to head off the fall including a way to keep the leaches on our country from dragging us down while the Obama administration uses them and wealth redistribution government dependency to retain power.

Arturas -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 12:47:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ...and don't forget about the woman I met a little while ago who is fully disabled while actually able to work full time due to "MS", and drawing 2200 dollars a month plus her latest student government sponsored loan which she will get out of paying, again, while looking for another school to go to and get another loan. I suggest you look up "MS" and find out what you obviously dont know. And, yeah, she can work a job.. and she pays taxes. How could I "obviously not know"? I've known her for years and know she played the system and pretended to be sicker than she is and fortunately for her, MS is great for that since many of the physical signs can be faked by anyone determined. It is fortunate for her she no longer has to work very hard at being recertified as disabled since there are so many new disabled (since Obama came to power) that there are too many now to be correctly recertified. What, you think I just decided to make up real examples of what Mitt was talking about? Take the blinders off, clear your preconceived notions and think. Think. Do you think the disability roles increased by 5.4 MILLION people under Obama is just a fluke? How did they get disabled? Not from a job injury. Obesity from not working? Faking?

Hillwilliam -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:07:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas and fortunately for her, MS is great for that That is quite possibly the most classless statement Ive ever seen on CM.

Politesub53 -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:13:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 But I don't depend on the government Ken, I depend on the tax payers of Indiana to pay my salary... You could say I'm self employed. So according to you President Obama is a leech and should be laid off first, after all he's the top leech. Next we have to lay off Congress, then all of those teachers... Hell lets fire every government employee, we don't need anyone at the IRS, they're a bunch of leeches. I'm sorry you and Skippy don't know the difference between TAX PAYERS and leeches Kenny, it's no wonder you prefer a government willing to coddle you. Sorry to burst your bubble. If someone else pays your wages, you are not self employed. Government, State, despite the difference you are still, a public employee.

tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:17:11 PM)
No, I think you make up bullshit examples to try and prove your points. http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-expedite-ussi.htm If you arent on that list, you have a long wait for disability http://www.socialsecuritydisabilityresource.com/How_Long_it_Takes_at_Hearing.html And thats just wait time for a hearing,, they sped up the initial denial time only.

graceadieu -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:28:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas ...and don't forget about the obese forty year old man I worked part time with at a bedding store, to earn the money to go to school, who told me his family had been on welfare for generations while hiding their working life and that he even pretended not to live with his wife and child so they could get more money from the Government since his wife was "abandoned" and needed more money to raise his children; He told me once when child welfare came by to check how he spent over an hour hiding under a bed so she would not see he was actually at home. ...and don't forget about the woman I met a little while ago who is fully disabled while actually able to work full time due to "MS", and drawing 2200 dollars a month plus her latest student government sponsored loan which she will get out of paying, again, while looking for another school to go to and get another loan. Mitt was really talking about these people and how it must end (as Clinton sought to do when he was in office) or we as a Nation will collapse. He is right, this cannot continue no matter who gets elected. Who get elected will influence how it will end, as a Nation on it's way back to prosperity under Mitt or a total collapse with people starving and riots and something like New Orleans during Katrina with looting and violence only it happening nationwide. That is the choice we have to make in November. Sure, those kind of people are who he was talking about. The problem is that he said that half of all Americans are those kind of people. Senior citizens, students, working-class families with 2 incomes and 3 kids, according to Mitt Romney they're all just like those two people you know.

tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:29:13 PM)
quote: disability roles increased by 5.4 MILLION According to the official web site... 2009 10,760,672 2011 11,736,104 http://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/statcomps/di_asr/2011/sect01a.html Where are those other 4.5 million people?

Politesub53 -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:30:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas ...and if anyone thinks the position that America is falling is extreme then I only need to remind you that we had many of our best deplomatic staff horribly murdered last week and the Ambassador sodomized before being beaten and killed. A father and husband. Any proof for any of this ? Somehow I doubt it.

DomYngBlk -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:38:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 But I don't depend on the government Ken, I depend on the tax payers of Indiana to pay my salary... You could say I'm self employed. So according to you President Obama is a leech and should be laid off first, after all he's the top leech. Next we have to lay off Congress, then all of those teachers... Hell lets fire every government employee, we don't need anyone at the IRS, they're a bunch of leeches. I'm sorry you and Skippy don't know the difference between TAX PAYERS and leeches Kenny, it's no wonder you prefer a government willing to coddle you. Sorry to burst your bubble. If someone else pays your wages, you are not self employed. Government, State, despite the difference you are still, a public employee. PS, he just can't bring himself to admit it. I think he might slice his wrists if he came to grips with his own situation.

Politesub53 -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:57:04 PM)
I think if he ever admits cops are indeed public servants, his whole stance on the matter needs kicking in the trash can. There is no shame in working for the State or the Fed, so you have to wonder about a denial.

slvemike4u -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 1:58:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Arturas quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ...and don't forget about the woman I met a little while ago who is fully disabled while actually able to work full time due to "MS", and drawing 2200 dollars a month plus her latest student government sponsored loan which she will get out of paying, again, while looking for another school to go to and get another loan. I suggest you look up "MS" and find out what you obviously dont know. And, yeah, she can work a job.. and she pays taxes. How could I "obviously not know"? I've known her for years and know she played the system and pretended to be sicker than she is and fortunately for her, MS is great for that since many of the physical signs can be faked by anyone determined. It is fortunate for her she no longer has to work very hard at being recertified as disabled since there are so many new disabled (since Obama came to power) that there are too many now to be correctly recertified. What, you think I just decided to make up real examples of what Mitt was talking about? Take the blinders off, clear your preconceived notions and think. Think. Do you think the disability roles increased by 5.4 MILLION people under Obama is just a fluke? How did they get disabled? Not from a job injury. Obesity from not working? Faking? Let me be real careful how I phrase this....so as not to insult or attack any of my fellow posters. Perhaps a hypothetical situation would suffice,again so that I don't insult anyone [8\|] Were someone to come along and,absent a medical degree,absent a look at my records,absent an actual extensive medical examination ....suggest that I am a leech,that I am simply gaming the system,that I am nothing more than a drain on the country.....I would tell that person to go fuck themselves. Now let's be clear,I am not telling Arturas to go fuck himself specifically [8\|]....Just in general any asshole who is stupid enough to believe that his laymans opinion of anothers medical condition has any validity. Any idiot who thinks their simpletons observation of another should supersede,or holds more weight than, the medical examinations I,for one, went thru,the expert medical testimony offered to the administrative judge who found that I was indeed disabled and as such ENTITLED to receive the Social Security benefits due me based on my contributions to the program during my working years. Now in my case that comes to a little more than 1,900 dollars a month.This is over and above my workers comp judgement,which is paid by an insurance company that administers New York states WC program( and which I have no need to address in this thread). At the time I was hurt I was working two jobs and paying taxes...so that lazy leech bullshit is just that....bullshit. So now I get to live on about 32,000 a year,I get to take a pain regimen of narcotic drugs 24/7 365 days a year...I get to wake up every morning and take a physical inventory of just how bad a day it will be. But I'm thickheaded,at 53 I don't want to be in a rocking chair....so once in awhile I go off and play a round of real shitty golf....than go home and suffer for having done so.....while I wonder how much closer that round of golf brought me to the walker that is in my future. Now some would suggest if I can play that golf why cant I get some sort of job....well let's see,due to the insurance company dragging their feet ,I wasn't done having surgeries till three years after my accident(7 surgical procedures in all),due to the insurance companies short sighted medical decisions my physical therapy was cut short too soon(by the time a judge reversed that decision fusion had occurred,my neurosurgeon testified that this decision cost me the fuller recovery that he had hoped I would have ) so here I am,out of the job market for a number of years...with a balky back that from time to time can be counted on to leave me helpless and immobile,plus on those pesky narcotics 24/7......where exactly should I look for this job? Who is hiring such an employee ? If I am Un-hirable is that not in and of itself a disability? All that aside ,let me say this,I feel no burning desire to justify myself to the likes of the above poster or to a fat bag of gas on the radio who has recently made this a focal point of his afternoon rants. This has been my own personal rant,it was inspired by listening to Rush and reading asinine posts and it is not intended in any way to insult or attack anyone else [8\|] Please return to your regular programming [:D]

slvemike4u -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:07:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, I think you make up bullshit examples to try and prove your points. http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-expedite-ussi.htm If you arent on that list, you have a long wait for disability http://www.socialsecuritydisabilityresource.com/How_Long_it_Takes_at_Hearing.html And thats just wait time for a hearing,, they sped up the initial denial time only. A denial that ,it was explained to me,is pretty much pro forma.....everyone gets denied...than you appeal it,when it's your turn. They feel this weeds out the fakes and the gamers,whether or not it does I have no idea.What I do know is that such a system means one is best advised to hire a lawyer to take you thru this process,a lawyer whose fee is either 1/4 or 1/3 of back SS payments(I forget fee schedule I paid)quite a boon to lawyers of less than Perry Mason status....lol

tazzygirl -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:12:37 PM)
Oh yes.. and depending on the lawyers ratings of approval or denial with the SS, his/her cases can be backlogged even further or sped up.

DomKen -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:29:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen You're dependent on government right? Romney said "there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government," You're part of the group Romney thinks are worthess leeches living off the hard work of others. just like combat troops and retirees. But I don't depend on the government Ken, I depend on the tax payers of Indiana to pay my salary... You could say I'm self employed. You're employed by the government. That makes you, de facto, dependent on the government.

DomKen -> RE: Romney Tells Millionaire Donors What He REALLY Thinks of Obama Voters (9/19/2012 2:32:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl No, I think you make up bullshit examples to try and prove your points. http://www.ssa.gov/ssi/text-expedite-ussi.htm As someone who has undergone that process they start sending you SSI immediately and they process your documents quickly but it is still 3 to 6 months to get approved for SSD for something that can be diagnosed with a simple blood test.

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