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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
Behind the flag? -------Willing to look out for their countrymen when it goes against their own interests...

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So, your response to people having to pay taxes that they don't like (which seems to be everyone), is to increase the taxes on some, instead of lowering the taxes on all, and cutting spending? Interesting. No. No, it's not.

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'Course not. On net, if they get back what they paid in, then they have no Federal Income Tax liability. If they don't want to send in any money now, and not get anything back, they can do that with their W-2's.(That should be W4's) There is absolutely no reason why the Federal Government requires people to pay in and let them "borrow" money interest free.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

It was verbal and nonverbal. I don't care about "those people" I think were his words. But sounds ominous. But, I am sure you will make a fool of yourself per the normal. Have at it...

"Those peope" are the leaches on our country. Those who live on the welfare state, not the legal immigrant who needs help while getting started or the divorced woman suddenly needed food stamps and even housing to keep her and her children safe and warm and dry while trying to find a job or go to school.

You know these leaches. Most people nowadays do. These are the leaches Mitt was discussing. He is right. You know they exist and pretending otherwise does not do you, or me or Mitt, justice.

Time to get real. Get real this November 2.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Leeches... with a 5 year limitation on most benefits? How does that work?

You Libs kill me. You "kind and gentle" Libs are really going to tell a single mother holding a sad faced little kid, "sorry, no more wefare for you! your 5 years are up!" get the fuck out of here!

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/politics/2012-election/video-mitt-romney-son-welfare-receiving-mexican-immigrant-mother-says

The GOP presidential ticket of Mitt Romney and Rep. Paul Ryan is fond of attacking 'social entitlements,' but their campaign has failed to mention that Mitt Romney's father George Romney was on "welfare relief" when he first arrived in the U.S., according to an interview with Romney's mother Lenore recorded in 1962.

George Romney was running for governor in Michigan in 1962, so this interview was part of Lenore's effort to help him get elected, which he was (video below).
George Romney was born in Mexico and moved with his family to El Paso, Texas, during the Mexican Revolution, reports addictinginfo.org
The family received $250, food, clothing, and other supplies from the U.S. government. The family later invested some of their money in the stock market and used that cash to send George Romney to college.

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I'm not aware of ever having done so.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4244247

You dont know what you were asking "and" too?

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You may have missed my comment....I'll repost it for you, highlighted twice now for additional reference if it proves helpful for you.."but not most"...his words....not mine. Having invented something for blind people back in 1994, received 2 patents on same, installed now in 39 states, I'm quite familiar with their needs and in fact assisted in writing some of the federal legislation prior to January 10, 2001 when we presented our final findings to the DOJ. I not only couldn't....I wouldn't argue this point.

Then do inform Romney, he is the one disagreeing with you.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Leeches... with a 5 year limitation on most benefits? How does that work?

You Libs kill me. You "kind and gentle" Libs are really going to tell a single mother holding a sad faced little kid, "sorry, no more wefare for you! your 5 years are up!" get the fuck out of here!

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LMAO bad PS< bad bad boy

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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So, your response to people having to pay taxes that they don't like (which seems to be everyone), is to increase the taxes on some, instead of lowering the taxes on all, and cutting spending? Interesting. No. No, it's not.

Well, since the current deficit is running about 4 times the revenue, that means you would need to cut spending 75% and raise taxes to balance.  
The lowering taxes will not work whatsovever, in that if we dont start paying payments we will be paying interest on interest and there goes americas mortgage
Inumeracy is not the answer.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

LMAO bad PS< bad bad boy

Hey ... When do you two add the new kid on the block.to the Ditches?
Looks like she's earning her paddle stripes

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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'Course not. On net, if they get back what they paid in, then they have no Federal Income Tax liability. If they don't want to send in any money now, and not get anything back, they can do that with their W-2's.(That should be W4's) There is absolutely no reason why the Federal Government requires people to pay in and let them "borrow" money interest free.

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The 47 percent number is not wrong. The stimulus programs of the last two years — the first one signed by President George W. Bush, the second and larger one by President Obama — have increased the number of households that receive enough of a tax credit to wipe out their federal income tax liability.
Pst... those you just described is what Romney is saying is part of that 47% you keep wanting to demonize.
You need to get with your idol and work out the differences in your definitions.

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47% is the amount of people not having a Federal income tax liability, but my point was that Romney's figure is incorrect in that all those people aren't going to automatically vote Obama

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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My foot isn't in my mouth. Why can't you answer a question?

Why cant you read?

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47% is the amount of people not having a Federal income tax liability, but my point was that Romney's figure is incorrect in that all those people aren't going to automatically vote Obama

Again, why cant you read?
They do have a tax liability. The government gives them enough credits to wipe that out.
The 47 percent number is not wrong. The stimulus programs of the last two years — the first one signed by President George W. Bush, the second and larger one by President Obama — have increased the number of households that receive enough of a tax credit to wipe out their federal income tax liability.
If they didnt have a tax liability, they wouldnt have anything to wipe out.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Ooops... missed part of my OP.

Why is he denigrating 47% of the US when his own grandfather used that very system Romney is complaining about?