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BamaD -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/7/2012 11:51:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kana See folks, civility can happen in P/R :-) I should have read futher before saying anything.

farglebargle -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 2:52:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Getting off point, Farglebargles position is that because of diallo and a lynching in 98 a white man acused of killing a black man must automatically be guilty. Actually, my point is that Trayvon Martin had plenty of reason to fear for his safety from the man who killed him, and that defending himself from his killer was clearly justified. And then I showed a court case to illustrate the issue at hand, where people reacting to a similar situation were judged not guilty. The real double-standard here is that if Travyon Martin was a woman, NO-ONE would be defending George Zimmerman's choices that night.

Rule -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 3:20:25 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle The real double-standard here is that if Travyon Martin was a woman, NO-ONE would be defending George Zimmerman's choices that night. If it had been a woman that mauled Zimmerman, he would still have been justified to shoot her in self-defence.

mons -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 5:01:27 AM)
Rule When someone has you on hide they can not see me? He been a pain he said I was attacking him but when I have seen men curse him out lol I was shocked so now I understand, a*&^%$# at best! He is 9875 as well he had three of my message pull I hurt his feeling so, on how and or I had disagreee with' his thoughts on this subject of Zimmerman/Martin case! I did not understand they had so very little or none racial things on there(my post no cursing at all), I never said a thing about his being white or anythng of that nature but I was pulled and fast! But again thank you for editing my post it is something I must learn how to do!!! take care and best regards Mons ( I must leabrn this game is words) I had wrote you a small note I do hope you do not mind!!

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 5:12:09 AM)
He did not have your posts pulled. No single poster has that power. The Admins decide what posts will or wont be pulled. If your posts were pulled, they must have felt something was wrong in them. The blame is on you, not him.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 5:35:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro oh now look who is doing the personal attackes...[sm=LMAO.gif] Not at all. You were making stuff up that wasn't true, so I suggested you stop. It undermines your position. That's helpful advice, not a personal attack.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 5:36:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Let see...there is no medical or any evidence what so ever blood, DNA, skin, hair etc. witness etc that Martin even touched Zimmerman. No DNA tests were done of Martin's hands except for a single scraping under one fingernail of each hand. Therefore, you can only speculate as to what was or was not on Trayvon's hands. This has been pointed out before.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:15:44 AM)
quote: No DNA tests were done of Martin's hands except for a single scraping under one fingernail of each hand. Therefore, you can only speculate as to what was or was not on Trayvon's hands. One scraping? Out of everything I have read, you are the only one to claim there was scraping under only one nail. Mind passing on that source?

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:31:32 AM)
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/static/cfnews13/documents/2012/09/GZ-FLDE-bio-evidence-2-0919.pdf Page 28.

Nosathro -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:36:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Let see...there is no medical or any evidence what so ever blood, DNA, skin, hair etc. witness etc that Martin even touched Zimmerman. No DNA tests were done of Martin's hands except for a single scraping under one fingernail of each hand. Therefore, you can only speculate as to what was or was not on Trayvon's hands. This has been pointed out before. Wrong again read....if you can http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-dna-problem/2012/09/30/40605a58-0a46-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-bloody-mess/2012/09/28/e204d598-09a4-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_blog.html Not at all. You were making stuff up that wasn't true, so I suggested you stop. It undermines your position. That's helpful advice, not a personal attack. I post where I get my info, you get on your soap box and justifiy your opinion with others opinion, no facts, you don't orginal thoughts you just want attention, like Zimmerman[sm=ass.gif]

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:37:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Wrong again read....if you can http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-dna-problem/2012/09/30/40605a58-0a46-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-bloody-mess/2012/09/28/e204d598-09a4-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_blog.html Your source is a blogger who is wrong. My source is the actual evidence dump from the State of Florida. In the entire evidence the State has released there is no DNA tests of Trayvon's hands except for scrapings from under one fingernail of each hand.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:41:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/static/cfnews13/documents/2012/09/GZ-FLDE-bio-evidence-2-0919.pdf Page 28. Page 8 indicates scrapings right and left hand

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:44:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/static/cfnews13/documents/2012/09/GZ-FLDE-bio-evidence-2-0919.pdf Page 28. Page 8 indicates scrapings right and left hand Page 28 says ME-2A is "Fingernail, right" and ME-2B is "Fingernail, left." One scraper for each. That was written by the individual who did the DNA tests.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:48:05 AM)
lol.... you think they scrape each separately?

Nosathro -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:50:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun http://www.cfnews13.com/content/dam/news/static/cfnews13/documents/2012/09/GZ-FLDE-bio-evidence-2-0919.pdf Page 28. Then there is page 3, test results, Martins hands, page 5 and page 6 Martin clothing.... your page 28 report no foreign matter on Martin finger, which again shows no contact with Zimmerman, so what did Martin use to break his nose and bang Zimmerman head...a feather?[:D] You are very selective about what you want us to believe....rather what you believe[sm=sleepy.gif]

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:50:32 AM)
Collection procedures for fingernail scrapings are: Use a rounded end of a toothpick to collect the evidence A separate toothpick should be used for each hand Collect the scrapings (and the toothpick) into a piece of folded paper (use a separate piece for each hand) Place the evidence in separate labeled envelopes http://dnacourses.dna.gov/letraining_adv/responsibilities/CollectAndPackage/FingernailScrapings

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:51:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun Collection procedures for fingernail scrapings are: Use a rounded end of a toothpick to collect the evidence A separate toothpick should be used for each hand Collect the scrapings (and the toothpick) into a piece of folded paper (use a separate piece for each hand) Place the evidence in separate labeled envelopes http://dnacourses.dna.gov/letraining_adv/responsibilities/CollectAndPackage/FingernailScrapings Each hand was done. Thats the report you got... not just one nail.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:52:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro your page 28 report no foreign matter on Martin finger And what was tested was under the fingernail. Nothing else.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:53:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl Each hand was done. Thats the report you got... not just one nail. Fingernail, left. Fingernail, right. NOT Fingernails.

Nosathro -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/8/2012 6:55:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Wrong again read....if you can http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-dna-problem/2012/09/30/40605a58-0a46-11e2-a10c-fa5a255a9258_blog.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/george-zimmermans-bloody-mess/2012/09/28/e204d598-09a4-11e2-858a-5311df86ab04_blog.html Your source is a blogger who is wrong. My source is the actual evidence dump from the State of Florida. In the entire evidence the State has released there is no DNA tests of Trayvon's hands except for scrapings from under one fingernail of each hand. The Washington Post is a newpaper, a very good one if you had read was reporting on the finding of the same report you claim, interesting that you only seem to focuse on just one test when others were taken that go on to show the lack of any proof Martin even touch Zimmerman but then again, that would not be something you want to believe, who biased?

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