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farglebargle -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/10/2012 2:31:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun Not sure how never being convicted of anything = "Lots of criminal record" http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11808013-george-zimmermans-criminal-records-revealed I understand this is why the Sheriffs deparment rejected him Oh look, never convicted of anything. Doesn't it seem strange that someone attacks a police officer doing their duty and gets pre-trial diversion? Of course, we find out now that Bill Lee, the chief of police of Sanford at the time of Zimmerman's arrest was one of Zimmerman's teachers earlier? Hmmmm... I guess there's no surprise why Bill Lee is collecting unemployment right now, is there?

Nosathro -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/10/2012 7:33:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun Not sure how never being convicted of anything = "Lots of criminal record" http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11808013-george-zimmermans-criminal-records-revealed I understand this is why the Sheriffs deparment rejected him Oh look, never convicted of anything. And as I recall you gave me Zimmerman intake sheet that required him to report any arrests or diverison..which he left blank and signed under a statement "I Certify that the all the information is true to the best of my knowledge" something Zimmerman seems to have a habit of doing..forgetting to tell the truth. And what does Martin have as far as arrest and convictions...?

Nosathro -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/10/2012 7:35:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun Not sure how never being convicted of anything = "Lots of criminal record" http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/11808013-george-zimmermans-criminal-records-revealed I understand this is why the Sheriffs deparment rejected him Oh look, never convicted of anything. Doesn't it seem strange that someone attacks a police officer doing their duty and gets pre-trial diversion? Of course, we find out now that Bill Lee, the chief of police of Sanford at the time of Zimmerman's arrest was one of Zimmerman's teachers earlier? Hmmmm... I guess there's no surprise why Bill Lee is collecting unemployment right now, is there? Yes and the only teacher that gave Zimmerman a passing grade.[&:]

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/10/2012 7:46:09 AM)
Well, except for the whole George Zimmerman not actually enrolling or attending any classes Bill Lee taught.

Nosathro -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/11/2012 1:12:49 PM)
The Lee lets Zimmerman wonder around inside police station. http://globalgrind.com/news/video-george-zimmerman-walking-through-sanford-police-station-trayvon-martin-details Of course I understand Zimmerman brother Robert is not helping much lately...according to O'Mara http://www.businessinsider.com/george-zimmermans-brothers-twitter-tirade-2012-10 http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-10-10/news/sns-rt-us-usa-florida-shootingbre89a01k-20121010_1_george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-mark-o-mara http://globalgrind.com/news/george-zimmerman-brother-robert-jr-twitter-rant-trayvon-martin-case-details Well, they are "Keeping it in the Family" [:D]

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/11/2012 2:18:32 PM)
"Regarding Robert Zimmerman Jr.'s media campaign and Twitter comments, Robert is acting on behalf of his family, and he is not acting with the approval or the input of the defense team. We're naturally concerned about anyone associated with the case speaking publicly, because there is always a risk that their comments could complicate our defense efforts. The Zimmerman family has been through a lot, and they have been frequently misrepresented in the media, so we do not begrudge Robert for wanting to speak out and set the record straight." http://gzlegalcase.com/

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/11/2012 3:10:12 PM)
Hmmm.. so when its Trayvon's cousin, its Trayvon's fault. But when its Zimmerman's brother, its not Z's fault.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/11/2012 3:21:18 PM)
Strawman.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/11/2012 6:54:51 PM)
Were you not the one who brought the cousins facebook account posts into this thread?

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 5:34:13 AM)
Doesn't make that absurd statement any less of a strawman.

mnottertail -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 8:03:08 AM)
Your statement is absurd since you have no idea what a strawman is by demonstration on the thread. Where in lies the strawman?

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 8:27:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Your statement is absurd since you have no idea what a strawman is by demonstration on the thread. Where in lies the strawman? The entire thing is an argument I have not made written as if to imply it was my stance.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 8:29:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun But what could be relevant is anything that shows a reputation for violence on Trayvon's part (swinging on a bus driver for instance, according to his cousin), or certain tweets from Deedee that put a major kink in her story (her tweets on the day of Trayvon's funeral in which she was supposedly in the hospital are interesting reading). http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4261831 Yes, you did. You insisted it showed violence based upon what the cousin wrote.... and yet excuse what the brother wrote.

mnottertail -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 8:41:57 AM)
That is how I remember it as well, so now I have to belive him (and he is fraught with unbeliveability) or my lying fucking eyes............hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 8:52:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun But what could be relevant is anything that shows a reputation for violence on Trayvon's part (swinging on a bus driver for instance, according to his cousin), or certain tweets from Deedee that put a major kink in her story (her tweets on the day of Trayvon's funeral in which she was supposedly in the hospital are interesting reading). http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4261831 Yes, you did. You insisted it showed violence based upon what the cousin wrote.... and yet excuse what the brother wrote. Another strawman. I insisted nothing; I did nothing more than answer a question about what the defense might be looking for. Those tweets might lead to witnesses that can testify as to Trayvon's character; or they might not. It would be a kindness if you would stop inventing stances for me that I have not taken.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 8:58:07 AM)
More than one person realizes you indeed made that stance. Perhaps you should own up to your own mistakes instead of calling everyone else a liar.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 9:12:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl More than one person realizes you indeed made that stance. Perhaps you should own up to your own mistakes instead of calling everyone else a liar. If they do, then they are as wrong as you are. A question was asked about what the defense would want to find in Trayvon's social media. I answered, and gave an example. Nothing more. I made no assertion as to if that tweet was factual, placed blame from that tweet, nothing. So unless you retract the strawman you made, you are, in fact, lying. And here's Richard Hornsby answering the same question that I answered.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 9:26:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun "Regarding Robert Zimmerman Jr.'s media campaign and Twitter comments, Robert is acting on behalf of his family, and he is not acting with the approval or the input of the defense team. We're naturally concerned about anyone associated with the case speaking publicly, because there is always a risk that their comments could complicate our defense efforts. The Zimmerman family has been through a lot, and they have been frequently misrepresented in the media, so we do not begrudge Robert for wanting to speak out and set the record straight." http://gzlegalcase.com/ Has nothing to do with his twitter accounts or his facebook.

Raiikun -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 9:34:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Raiikun "Regarding Robert Zimmerman Jr.'s media campaign and Twitter comments, Robert is acting on behalf of his family, and he is not acting with the approval or the input of the defense team. We're naturally concerned about anyone associated with the case speaking publicly, because there is always a risk that their comments could complicate our defense efforts. The Zimmerman family has been through a lot, and they have been frequently misrepresented in the media, so we do not begrudge Robert for wanting to speak out and set the record straight." http://gzlegalcase.com/ Has nothing to do with his twitter accounts or his facebook. That was a separate response to Nosathro going on about O'Mara's response to Robert Jr. and unrelated to the other. I honestly have no idea what made you decide to connect the two to invent a strawman like that.

tazzygirl -> RE: Update on Trayvon Martin case (10/12/2012 9:43:09 AM)
Two family members.... both going to social media... both saying whatever they wish without regards to how it looks upon those in their family. One you excused. One you did not. You figure it out.

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