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PranksterBtch -> RE: Is sexual denial a barrier to intimacy? (11/11/2012 10:42:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Alecta

Intimacy for women is not usually linked to sexual penetration and male ejaculation, although social conditioning has been teaching us that male ejaculation = male satisfaction and leads the typical vanilla woman to believe that if a man doesn't cum, he doesn't enjoy her.

The thing that tends to turn women off about the subject of sexual denial and cuckoldry is most men become so self-absorbed when they're engaging in the kink it becomes all about them and the women feels like air. Listening to a man you lack the emotional bond with talk about cuckoldry is like watching a guy you're unattracted to masturbate. A "Why am I here?" prop sentiment.


Very nice summary Alecta. I agree. But when you are turned on, and you have your sub in denial, I have never heard such pleasingly erotic whines, whimpers and pleadings. Of course, nothing a switch can't calm, but it is sweet nonetheless. Giggling ... damn it I might have to go Domme on my vanilla partner tonight just to go there ... let me see ... how can I interrupt coitus tonight? Excuse me .. ehem I have some daydreaming to do.




PranksterBtch -> RE: Is sexual denial a barrier to intimacy? (11/11/2012 10:56:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: CougarRick

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ORIGINAL: fucktoyprincess
Can couples share intimacy without sex? Absolutely. I do not see sex as necessary for intimacy in a relationship, especially as I feel intimacy is not limited to physical intimacy, but is a much more complicated construct than that that includes psychological, emotional, and even intellectual bonding. I would argue that laughing at the same thing in a newspaper is actually an intimacy. While I say this, I do believe sex is very typical, and a major driving force at the start of practically all long-term monogamous relationships, but sex often is not the main driving force after decades together. So is sex a precursor for long-term intimacy? Perhaps? Is sex necessary for continued intimacy? Probably not.

Can you share sex with someone you are not intimate with? I actually think...yes. Although the longer two people are together, I think keeping intimacy out of the equation becomes more difficult.

Can you share intimacy with someone who you do not have sex with? Perhaps?



Not much I could really add to that. I can't see how sex without intimacy would be as gratifying as sex with intimacy, but that is just my opinion. I would want there to be something between me and the other person; It wouldn't have to be mad love (although that would be nice), but the fuck buddy thing sounds depressing.

Intimacy without sex sounds easier. Granted as you point out, most long term relationships will usually involve sex, but I think that the sex itself might be better if it didn't happen too soon in the relationship, and the two people waited and allowed the intimacy to build first.

I would want to get the chemistry right, build the intimacy and then wait until both people were literally dying for the physical sex.


For me, when the "dying for physical sex" energy is there ... that is when the fun begins. Rawr. There is definitely a science to it.

Endorphins, desire, and physical touch are always a good thing, especially when mindfucks are in play. It took me a few years to get my last sub to go for more than two hours without any dick-drip ... I hope to meet a sub some day that warrants the time and energy it takes to teach this. Is this easier to teach to female subs? Hmmm ... what would I call it then? Clit-drip? Ha.




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