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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/1/2012 4:07:06 PM   
tsatske


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You must learn to value yourself before you can be a truly good slave. You can be used without finding any value in yourself, but to be a slave to someone who values you, you are going to have to value yourself, otherwise you will be so busy with users you will never see the Master that is meant for you when he walks by. You can do things to work on yourself and value yourself. Finding a theripist who you truly feel values you, and isn't, you feel sure, just giving lip service, is a first step. finding a trans support group can help in the same way. Please take care of yourself.

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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/1/2012 9:14:57 PM   
alildifferent


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Status: offline 		I've seen a therapist and she's suggested group is the key. If a large group has put you down all your life a you need positve spin from a group in return to combat the negative things you here. I just have to get out there and do it. Not easy though since the nearest trans support group is a two hour drive.

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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/2/2012 9:15:28 AM   
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quote:

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I've seen a therapist and she's suggested group is the key. If a large group has put you down all your life a you need positve spin from a group in return to combat the negative things you here. I just have to get out there and do it. Not easy though since the nearest trans support group is a two hour drive.


Don't let it be about whether it's difficult, make it about whether you're worth it. When the answer is 'yes', you're moving in the right direction.

Everyone deserves to like themselves.



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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/2/2012 11:02:52 AM   
ThundersCry


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Status: offline 		`ey tsakske!

I have always admired your honesty on the boards...your going to disclose things about yourself as you want to for the most part...we all do learn by making mistakes, `ey?

You have been around the scene a long time and you know when you need to be careful! Don`t let your unfilled masochistic wants and needs cloud your judgement!

Years ago on a first date, at supper she asked about me...out of my mouth came Im a recovering alcoholic and a whatever! I always did kinda regret that as have some have set, some things need to be let out a little latter. The wench stuck around and oooo what a ride that magled us both in 2 years lol! Why? I was in early recovery...a no no. pffftttttttt it was fun.

Take care, sweety...

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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/2/2012 12:35:09 PM   
hlen5


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Status: offline 		I've only read the OP. I think it's disgusting to say the least.

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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/2/2012 3:27:06 PM   
marsman


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ORIGINAL: tsatske
I'm just wondering how common this fetish is and if other mentally ill subs would find it an acceptable fetish to cater to. To me it is a little like, only worse, feeder doms. i'm fat, but I don't go in for feeders. I'm fat enough as it is. I want a Master who accepts me as I am and wants the best for me, wants constant improvement, within my capabilities, with an eye to stretching those. What do y'all think of this?


I have played with mentally impaired submissives.

Never work with a Dominant who does not take responsibility for your health.

A responsible Dom works to keep a submissive to be as healthy as possible and recognizes when a submissive is mentally impaired and stops play.




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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/2/2012 9:43:26 PM   
MistressKel


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Status: offline 		About the term 'disorder'...I don't like it --they quickly become labels by which we learn to identify ourselves.

A disorder is nothing more than a specific set of symptoms that are successfully treatable by specific means. If anyone tells you any different, they're full of crap. I constantly hear, "I'm bipolar, or I'm BPD..." No...you are NOT bipolar...you are NOT BPD! You HAVE---I repeat you HAVE that diagnosis, that diagnosis is NOT the sum of who or what you are! And the mental health system does NOTHING to get this through to clients...it's just sickening to me that people who are already suffering have to get those stigmas (the labels) and have to deal with that on top of symptoms that are already making their life dysfunctional.

Symptoms are things that happen TO you...not things that you are. Please, if you walk away from my post with anything new, let it be that.

I have over 60 credit hours in psychology and probably 30 more in sociology--someone needs to nail that guy who claims to be a therapist and get his ass off the streets! I highly doubt he is actually a therapist because I don't know any of them that would risk their careers (and the money it costs to get there) by announcing such ignorant bullshit to anyone at any point in a relationship. (and I know some really stupid therapists--believe me)

More likely, they would just do it rather than discuss it.

Also, I agree that posting that straight off is probably not a good idea, for the reasons already mentioned in this thread. However, I think it is necessary to tell a person soon after meeting if you have severe symptoms that usually cause relationship problems for you. The reason that I say this is because I myself can not be in "intimate" relationships with most people who have bipolar or borderline personality disorder symptoms. The symptoms tend to agitate my own mental illness and make me dangerously aggressive, which quickly escalates to severe mental instability. Why would either of us go through that if it can be avoided? I just got out of a 14 year relationship with someone who has recently been diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia (yeah, I spelled it without help) and it was hell for both of us! Now, he's my best friend, but we have to back off after spending time together because our symptoms harm the other and it ends in a cycle of uncontrollable violence for us both (and I like violence--which is not good for our friendship or his life).

I think your own instincts on the subject are pretty good, and the advice here is really good as well, I just wanted to put in my two cents because I think it's relevant here.

Thanks for reading!

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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/2/2012 9:54:40 PM   
tsatske


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Status: offline 		Mistress Kel,
I don't really worry that much about what it's called or not called. That's why I was asking the poster who thought my life would be so much improved if I called it manic depression - how so? It doesn't eeem to me to make any difference what it's called, the point is to know that I can deal with it.

I wanted to post, however, and say how impressed I am that yo can spell schizophrenia (I looked at your post while I typed). I have schizophrenic effects, and I usually spell it starting with a p :P

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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/2/2012 11:24:33 PM   
MistressKel


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Status: offline 		See, that's how I see it...if you can function, then you're doing alright...

When the dysfunction sets in, then the problems start and life becomes hell...why would anyone even consider that another person would agree to being put in that place (and I know well, the place where depression sits, I'll tell you!)

I'm glad that you got it together so much that you recognize these idiots for what they are and don't let them victimize you!

I'm impressed with myself for being able to spell it! It took me a couple years to get it right...lol Off topic--the reason I finally learned it was because in zoology class, I learned that schizo means split...already knew that phrene means mind (they're both greek)...subtract the e add ia and you got it...lol

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RE: mental Illness and submission - 10/3/2012 11:06:33 AM   
seasnail


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Status: offline 		Here are my feelings on this.
I myself have a bi-polar illness, I have had people who are afraid of me because of this.
I used to define myself as some one who had no ideal of who I was because I did not know who I was. When I was fianally diagnosed (sp) I had never been so happy in my whole life, to finally know the reason for what was happening with me was great. Now I have grown, and my meds help a great deal. I have gone through a divorce. I was present through out the whole thing, meaning that before I would have just let things happen around me and been a victum. I have never been alone in my life prior to my divorce. I love it!
Have an illness of any kind and finally knowing what is up with youself is very wonderful.
As for telling some one about it, well I belive in telling them. This is because it's pretty hard to hide when you take meds and they want to know what they are for or why you have so many appointments to go to.
Most of the men I have told this to back off which is fine by me. I don't want to be involved with some one and then have them say oh no I don't want to be around you.
There is some thing to be said for both telling people up front and not. Depends on the situation. I feel that if they liked you before you told them they are complete jerks in rejecting you after they learn of your being "what ever your being some one with a need to be prescribed medication to help you with what ever you need to the medication for." To me means that they are not people that any one needs to be around.
The reason I feel this way is because being bi-polar is some instances can cause a person who is not being prescribed a medication, can be a mess. I know I was. No one wanted to be around me any way.
I am a person now who people want to talk to am approchable. As well, as the person I have always wanted to be.
These are my feelings about being who I am and my bi-polar does not define who I am. It just means that I have to have meds. It means that I need to have some one who is not judgmental about me, but some one who gives me tools to deal with myself. Nothing wrong with any of it because you are helping yourself.
I would not give much thought to those so called Doms, because it sounds to me like they are lazy and perhaps need some chemical replacement or deal with their own problems before they try to take on a sub. (This is not a snipe it could be very true.)

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