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please help . hypnosis - 9/27/2012 3:32:49 PM   
Mastericetiger


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Status: offline 		can someone help me i want to learn hypnosis.... Dose it really work. Please message me. I really want to learn this technic
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RE: please help . hypnosis - 9/27/2012 3:48:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hypnosis should only be done by those who have schooling and are qualified.

If you brush up against something unexpected or use he wrong wording you could cause major problems that you're not equipped to handle.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 9/27/2012 9:23:57 PM   
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RE: please help . hypnosis - 9/27/2012 9:30:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bondage.com used to have a chat room called Hypnorealm. Last I heard it was still up and running. I know the owner fairly well on an online basis; I DJed in her chat room off and on for years. It's an interesting room.

If you ask politely, there are knowledgeable folks there who should be able to answer your questions.

As for how to get to bondage.com, it's on IRC, if that helps you.

As The OGirl mentions, hypnosis is powerful mojo, caution is advised.





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RE: please help . hypnosis - 9/27/2012 11:13:30 PM   
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RE: please help . hypnosis - 9/28/2012 5:00:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Now... take a seat.

Relax,,,, and empty your mind (which I suspect is unlikely to require a lot of effort)

Breath deeply (and don't forget to carry on doing this, I'd hate to be responsible for your demise, whatever the dna improving results of that might prove to be)

Imagine you're a powerful being...

Imagine you have all the knowledge of the world at your finger tips..

Now... follow the trail... intuit where in that vast pool of knowledge you might find the answer.

Relax for me, let all your other concerns simply drift away.

Lift your hands, and splay your fingers - Imagine that your finger tips are a portal to this vast ocean of knowledge and insight.

Now.... lower your hands over your computer keyboard...

Relax more now... (This is the really fucking difficult bit)

Imagine both of your index fingers extending down towards the keyboard...

Imagine them typing out the following letters....

w
w
w
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g
o
o
g
l
e
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c
o
m

And.... <clicks fingers> WAKEY WAKEY



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RE: please help . hypnosis - 10/3/2012 12:34:20 AM   
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Hypnosis should only be done by those who have schooling and are qualified.

If you brush up against something unexpected or use he wrong wording you could cause major problems that you're not equipped to handle.


Using hypnosis safely can be taught in about a few hours. That doesn't make you hypnotherapist, but it will give you enough knowledge to experiment safely and refer out when an abreaction occurs. besides, not just a few of those certification courses teach stuff about regression which is 180 degrees opposite to all scientific research in that area, which imho increases the risks enormously if people take that BS seriously.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 10/3/2012 8:36:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Hypnosis should only be done by those who have schooling and are qualified.

If you brush up against something unexpected or use he wrong wording you could cause major problems that you're not equipped to handle.


Using hypnosis safely can be taught in about a few hours. That doesn't make you hypnotherapist, but it will give you enough knowledge to experiment safely and refer out when an abreaction occurs. besides, not just a few of those certification courses teach stuff about regression which is 180 degrees opposite to all scientific research in that area, which imho increases the risks enormously if people take that BS seriously.


Oh, yes, I'm sure that a two hour course will absolutely teach you how to word thing correctly or how to deal with accidently brushing up against something that you didn't know was there.


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RE: please help . hypnosis - 10/3/2012 9:49:37 AM   
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RE: please help . hypnosis - 10/3/2012 10:19:18 AM   
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RE: please help . hypnosis - 10/3/2012 10:37:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Guilty1974

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Hypnosis should only be done by those who have schooling and are qualified.

If you brush up against something unexpected or use he wrong wording you could cause major problems that you're not equipped to handle.


Using hypnosis safely can be taught in about a few hours. That doesn't make you hypnotherapist, but it will give you enough knowledge to experiment safely and refer out when an abreaction occurs. besides, not just a few of those certification courses teach stuff about regression which is 180 degrees opposite to all scientific research in that area, which imho increases the risks enormously if people take that BS seriously.


Oh, yes, I'm sure that a two hour course will absolutely teach you how to word thing correctly or how to deal with accidently brushing up against something that you didn't know was there.


Learning isn't the same as experience. You can learn the information fast, if you're a fast learner (I studied it at length, but all of the basics were simple enough to absorb) - how you apply that learning is a whole nuther ball of wax.

"Mind bombs" are not simple things regardless of experience, and sooner or later a practitioner will hit one for the first time. Ways to alleviate this are proper session discussions and interviews, additional studies in psychology (to better anticipate cause and effect), setting triggers to divert the mind, using the right techniques, understanding where the subject is at...you get the idea. Nothing is perfect but proper application and planning do wonders.

Wording also comes with experience, but there are courses that specifically address what kind of words to use and how to use them, as well as what induction techniques work with which personality type.

The two hours is not an accurate figure by any means, but everything I've described can be learned relatively quickly. Again, it's HOW you use it!


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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/15/2012 8:27:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Many colleges and universities have courses in hypnosis taught by the psych departments. I would suggest taking one of these courses as they not only cover techniques, they also spend a lot of time on the dangers and most common mistakes in hypnosis. When I learned myself I was 14 and curious about it. My dad sent me to study with his old college roommate who was a psychiatrist that specialized in the use of hypnosis to treat otherwise incurable cases. He spent about 2 hours teaching me techniques and 2 weeks teaching me what could go wrong and how to prevent problems. He had me study many case histories of hypnosis gone wrong and truly messing someone up. Scary stuff really. I would never recommend any kind of amateur training in hypnosis. Go learn properly from a pro.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/15/2012 9:10:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mastericetiger
can someone help me i want to learn hypnosis....

Yup... google.com or a pro.

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Dose it really work.

to accomplish what? If you're thinking of something that might loosely be called "mind control" or "brainwashing" then the answer is "No, it does not work. There is no such technique. Give it up. Yes, I know you won't listen to me. Because you won't listen to me let me save you some time and point you on your next quixotic quest. Look up Neuro-Linguistic Programming"

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Please message me. I really want to learn this technic

Why? What is it that you seek with hypnosis that simple dominance won't get you in a lot more straightforward fashion. That's a serious question. If I want some external action or internal mental state from Carol I simply command it. I don't get why anyone would want to jump through a bunch of elaborate hoops even if they did work.


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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/15/2012 9:19:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was just discussing hypnosis with an individual earlier this evening. Two basics of hypnosis are that a person who does not wish to be hypnotized cannot be hypnotized and a person, while hypnotized, cannot be made to cross deeply held personal and moral beliefs. If either are what you are seeking, then it's not going to work. Research is pretty consistent on those points.

I seriously question the motives of someone who wants to learn hypnosis simply to play in dominance and submission. This is not territory to take lightly. Using existing training as a part of dominant play time is potentially acceptable. This situation, however, concerns me.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/15/2012 9:36:52 PM   
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I seriously question the motives of someone who wants to learn hypnosis simply to play in dominance and submission.

And I must admit I have also. In the past I've only ever been able to come up with an answer like, "They have no idea how to actually dominate or enslave a woman so they are looking for some cookbook recipe or cheat sheet." But that sort of thinking is always dangerous which is why I thought I'd ask "why?" on this thread. A lot of folks seem to have this fascination with the Svengali-esque Mind Control Techniques and I'm wondering if there is some aesthetic or practical purpose I'm missing.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/15/2012 10:05:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		If one actually spends serious time learning about several techniques of mind exploration, including relaxation therapy, meditation, reiki, and others besides trying to learn about hypnosis one MAY learn a bit more about how your own mind works. This can be helpful in trying to understand how the minds of others work.

Also if you yourself have experienced hypnotic trance, transcendental meditation, subspace, domspace, past life regression therapy or another out of body sort of experience, you may have an inkling about how some of these things feel, and possibly how you can "get there".

This does NOT make you an expert, nor will it necessarily equip you to be able to handle someone else's similar experiences, especially if they have either mental difficulties or memories of horrors which may pop up. Good luck!

I have never ever found a short cut or magick short cut to enable me to jump past learning experiences to suddenly just know stuff. Most goals take serious work to reach.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/15/2012 10:20:54 PM   
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I seriously question the motives of someone who wants to learn hypnosis simply to play in dominance and submission.

And I must admit I have also. In the past I've only ever been able to come up with an answer like, "They have no idea how to actually dominate or enslave a woman so they are looking for some cookbook recipe or cheat sheet." But that sort of thinking is always dangerous which is why I thought I'd ask "why?" on this thread. A lot of folks seem to have this fascination with the Svengali-esque Mind Control Techniques and I'm wondering if there is some aesthetic or practical purpose I'm missing.


I think the myths of what hypnosis can actually accomplish make it very tempting to use as a means of usurping a submissive's stated limits. I hear intent to breach basic trust when I hear something like the OP asked. It doesn't mean this guy's motives run that direction, but I would want a lot more clarification before even offering ways to learn such a thing. And, as others have mentioned, it is unsafe learned in isolation from other things such as basic psychology, etc. This not for the average Joe Dom.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/16/2012 1:07:28 AM   
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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/16/2012 3:14:43 AM   
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I was just discussing hypnosis with an individual earlier this evening. Two basics of hypnosis are that a person who does not wish to be hypnotized cannot be hypnotized and a person, while hypnotized, cannot be made to cross deeply held personal and moral beliefs. If either are what you are seeking, then it's not going to work. Research is pretty consistent on those points.

SD


This is true. I have a friend who is a famous TV magician and hypnotist in the UK. I have seen his work close up and was amazed by what he was able to achieve with some people. He tried several times to hypnotize me with no luck.

I have also been to a spa and tried meditation and can just not manage it. I have never been able to clear my mind, there is always something going on.

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RE: please help . hypnosis - 12/16/2012 12:03:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Hypnosis should only be done by those who have schooling and are qualified.

If you brush up against something unexpected or use he wrong wording you could cause major problems that you're not equipped to handle.


Using hypnosis safely can be taught in about a few hours. That doesn't make you hypnotherapist, but it will give you enough knowledge to experiment safely and refer out when an abreaction occurs. besides, not just a few of those certification courses teach stuff about regression which is 180 degrees opposite to all scientific research in that area, which imho increases the risks enormously if people take that BS seriously.


As someone who IS actually a hypnotherapist, I can tell you that a few hour course will NOT teach you how to properly deal with an abreaction, or what do do if something else goes wrong. I recommend anyone who's interested in learning read as many books as they can, as well as taking courses. Start very slow and don't attempt mucking around in someone's subconscious to try and "change" them in any way on a deeper level. You could do some serious mental and emotional damage.

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