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When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:20:05 AM   
litleone8620


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Status: offline 		This thread is for the opinion of both dominants and submissives: In either scening, or in a 24/7 relationship, do you or does your dominant require the use of Master/Mistress or Sir?
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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:24:20 AM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		The person I am seeing doesn't want me to call him Master or Sir or Lord

I call him Daddy

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:25:35 AM   
angelface183


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Status: offline 		I do not call my Master by His first name.  As He said, "Everyone calls me Joe (not His real name); even the girl at the gas station!  What we have is special and different."  I call Him Master or Sir, but in mixed company I refer to Him by his given name but I never address Him by His name and instead call Him "honey", "love", "sweetie", etc. 

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:29:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		My slave addresses me as Master.

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:31:01 AM   
juliaoceania


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Status: offline 		I find myself doing that too,.... Hunny and Sweetie.... the more time I spend talking to him the less I call him by his given name..lol

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:34:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I find myself doing that too,.... Hunny and Sweetie.... the more time I spend talking to him the less I call him by his given name..lol


I had a friend over last week when SD was here.  I was trying to tell the friend a story about Master and completely blanked on His name!  Later the friend was telling a story about me and Master told me later that He almost asked "Who's Kim?" because He calls me slave, slut, or whore!

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:36:15 AM   
litleone8620


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Status: offline 		It's a sign of respect, is it not?

Is not calling a dominant a punishable offense? Please don't answer this question with 'it depends on the dominant'. I would like your opinion, that's why i'm asking this question.

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:38:31 AM   
SirCnbree


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Status: offline 		i call my partener "daddy" exsacpt in mixed company then it is Sir or his first name

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:39:39 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: litleone8620

It's a sign of respect, is it not?

Is not calling a dominant a punishable offense? Please don't answer this question with 'it depends on the dominant'. I would like your opinion, that's why i'm asking this question.



Clarify that.


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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:42:23 AM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: litleone8620
It's a sign of respect, is it not?

For some yes, for some no. 
quote:


Is not calling a dominant a punishable offense? Please don't answer this question with 'it depends on the dominant'. I would like your opinion, that's why i'm asking this question.

Unfortunately the answer you don't want to hear is the one. 

I'm afraid you aren't going to find many clear universal answers here.  Oh, you'll find plenty of people who will be more than happy to TELL YOU what the Truth, the Whole Truth, and Nothing But The Truth is...but they have no more authority or universality than anyone else.

No one in my relationships have to address anyone by anything.  In my previous relationship, I called the owner whatever came to mind- including his name.

In lots of relationships, they prefer a formalized system.

Whatever the dom prefers is how the submissive will act.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_311337/mpage_1/key_call%252Csir/tm.htm#311337
question for subs/slaves

http://www.collarchat.com/m_208378/mpage_1/key_call%252Csir/tm.htm#208378
name or sir

http://www.collarchat.com/m_152673/mpage_1/key_call%252Csir/tm.htm#152673
titles, names, pet or affection

http://www.collarchat.com/m_117226/mpage_1/key_call%252Csir/tm.htm#117226
a sir issue

http://www.collarchat.com/m_185/mpage_1/key_call%252Csir/tm.htm#185
respect



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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:45:40 AM   
Kinkypupper


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Status: offline 		"SIR" is a sign and acknowledgement of respect.
""Master" is a title that is earned by deeds and actions and given to them by a slave.

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:45:51 AM   
litleone8620


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Status: offline 		Ooops, that was a typo. I meant is not calling a dominant by the name He wishes a punishable offense. Meaning, should a submissive be punished if she does not adress him correctly

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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 10:58:37 AM   
MrrPete


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quote:

ORIGINAL: litleone8620

Ooops, that was a typo. I meant is not calling a dominant by the name He wishes a punishable offense. Meaning, should a submissive be punished if she does not adress him correctly


It could be and it really does depend on the Dom. If I have to tell a sub how to
address me it doesn't mean as much.

The only time I really object is when a sub calls me Master and she isn't wearing my
collar. Even if she is wearing my collar I might object but not as strenuously. :)





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RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 11:01:30 AM   
MasterFireMaam


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Status: offline 		This is my "Speaking" protocol:

  1. Speaking to/of me
  2. When speaking to me, I prefer Ma’am.
    1. As a minimum:
    2. “Yes, Ma’am” or “No, Ma’am” in answer to a question.
    3. “Yes, Ma’am” or “No, Ma’am” in acknowledgement of an order or request.
    4. “Ma’am” at the beginning of a question or a request.
    5. “Thank you, Ma’am” as appropriate.

  3. When speaking of me, in the community, Master Fire.
  4. When speaking to me, outside the community, I still prefer Ma’am.
  5. When speaking of me, outside the community, Fire will suffice, but my given name is perfectly fine as well.

  • Speaking to others.
  • If you are unsure what title and/or pronoun a person uses, ask them.
  • Unless you truly, truly have a problem with a particular person, refer to them by title.
  • Be polite to everyone, whenever possible.
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    RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 11:03:52 AM   
    LuckyAlbatross


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: litleone8620
    Ooops, that was a typo. I meant is not calling a dominant by the name He wishes a punishable offense. Meaning, should a submissive be punished if she does not adress him correctly

    If that is what the people in the relationship have agreed to.

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    RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 11:09:01 AM   
    stef


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    ORIGINAL: litleone8620

    Ooops, that was a typo. I meant is not calling a dominant by the name He wishes a punishable offense. Meaning, should a submissive be punished if she does not adress him correctly.

    Assuming you're not Gorean or involved in that milieu—if he's not your dom/owner/master/whatever, you can call him whatever you wish without any fear of reprisal.  If he is your dom/owner/master/whatever and you call him by something other than what he's told you to call him, whether or not it's a punishable offense is entirely up to him.

    If you're looking for a set of hard and fast rules that apply universally, prepare to be disappointed.

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    RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 11:12:25 AM   
    Sab


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: litleone8620

    Ooops, that was a typo. I meant is not calling a dominant by the name He wishes a punishable offense. Meaning, should a submissive be punished if she does not adress him correctly


    I think that you will find that LA is correct, and you will get the answer you don't want - the Dominant 'dictates' what his/her prefrence is and that is it.

    Not all Dom's, myself included, want to be called Master, Dom, Sir etc, she will normally call me a name that we both feel comfortuble with - that could be anything from my everyday name to, depending on the situation, Master. I do hope that helps.


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    RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 11:14:25 AM   
    cellibrat


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    Status: offline     		my Dom hates to be called Master.. absolutely hates it.. and if i do call him that out of pure brattiness, i get in trouble..
     
    what do i call him? welll most times its Daddy, sometimes its Sir.. and then there are times that i call him baby.... and sis calls him Daddy or babe
     
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    RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 11:24:14 AM   
    akisha


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: litleone8620

    It's a sign of respect, is it not?

    Is not calling a dominant a punishable offense? Please don't answer this question with 'it depends on the dominant'. I would like your opinion, that's why i'm asking this question.



    Not addressing a dominant by Sir or Master will get you introuble usually only in a chat (IRC) environment.

    If you are in a Gorean chat room all Free Men are refered to as Master, all Free Women are referred to as Mistress or myLady or Ma'am.

    In a non Gorean room all Dominant men are Sir, and Dominant women are Ma'am.

    Now in real life most people aren't that anal retentive.

    Personally i tend to refer to men as Sir and women as Ma'am but that is how i was raised. I address with respect until such time respect is no longer there. If i'm introduced to someone as Master so and so i will then refer to them as such, unless told otherwise. It's polite. I like to stick to Sir and Ma'am for the basic reason that i'm terrible with names, especially if i'm meet a large number of people all at the same time.

    You are always going to get the hot head that says "I'm a Master and you will address me as such" but really most people are secure enough in themselves to know who and what they are and have no need or desire to constantly remind everyone.

    Just my experiences *smiles*

    editted due to the fact i'm having a blonde day


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    RE: When to use Master or Sir - 6/13/2006 11:24:26 AM   
    sabswife


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    quote:

    ORIGINAL: cellibrat

    my Dom hates to be called Master.. absolutely hates it.. and if i do call him that out of pure brattiness, i get in trouble..
     


    it used to be this way with my Dom, but in come situations now i refer to Him as Master.  it just began to fit and does more and more. and as He said above what i refer to Him as varies.. from Babe to Master

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