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descrite -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 11:33:37 AM)

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That's because men want a playboy bunny (outfit and all) serving them cocktails and paying 2/3 of the bills while they mash on game consoles and sip caffeine and alcohol until they pass out and woke up said bunny live porn. Totally unrealistic, according to the greater vanilla public, and slightly embarrassing to admit.


Yes, please.


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Serious now, though, marriage house and kids are not "women's expectations". They are societal expectations on family units that men who are not yet under the compulsion delight in blaming on their women.


Okay. If by "societal" you mean "men's impulses checked by female influence."

A society dictated by male desires would look a whoooole lot different than the one we live in.


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Women's expectations are affection, respect and honour. You could go as far as to say it's the same as men's expectations, we just have different ranges of interest and expression.


This, I like.


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I certainly dont want " marriage, house, kids."


You are not women. You are a woman. The nice part about generalizations is that they allow for exceptions. Like, "People don't want to get tied up and beaten by their partners": for the most part, that may be true, but there are a sufficient number of exceptions that we can gather on a website. That still does not make the website participants the general case; we remain anecdotal.

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Its a pretty standard norm


Yeah, that's the point. A 50 year-old man is a 15 year-old boy with money and options.










Alecta -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 11:42:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: descrite
Okay. If by "societal" you mean "men's impulses checked by female influence."

A society dictated by male desires would look a whoooole lot different than the one we live in.


No, hun. You mean a society dictated by YOUR male desires would be different from the one you live in. It is a fallacy to presume all regions across the globe have the same norms because they don't. This automatically throws out the "men's impulses checked by female influence". There is much about the modern Western world that is "female impulse rewritten by male influence".

How do you reconcile the 1950s stereotype perpetuated by men who came home and wanted their women raising kids, tending the house and shackled to him through the judicial system instead f being an independent earning member of the workforce?




Okeanos -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 11:47:15 AM)

Two different traits of people have been confused in this thread:
1. The tendency of people to have opposite-sex pictures (ex/stock/porn/whatever) in their profile.
2. The tendency of people to have an opposite-sex picture as their AVATAR.
The first one is an infraction.
The second one is felony.




Kana -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 12:10:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Okeanos

Two different traits of people have been confused in this thread:
1. The tendency of people to have opposite-sex pictures (ex/stock/porn/whatever) in their profile.
2. The tendency of people to have an opposite-sex picture as their AVATAR.
The first one is an infraction.
The second one is felony.

Uh-huh. So when I had an avatar of the lilone's tits skewered I was committing a felony?
Yea, right-o and all that nonsense




autumnember -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 2:09:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Melissa0859

Yeah, "chicks I've done" Photos are not all that alluring to me.


But it's a whole thing better than a photo of their dick.

We could use a whole other thread analyzing that one, however.


Not when the photo is a close up of the ex's vagina and asshole.... gag me




littlewonder -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 3:21:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JanahX

I like playing some games on the computer - but Ive known people that log some serious hours playing PS3 - or WoW and do nothing else. I was married to someone who started pulling that shit. I was like wtf?!?! I was out the door.


The ex Dom was so bad that he would simply stay awake all night and day with the entire coffeepot sitting at his desk and not even go into work. Once he went into his office I sometimes didn't see him at all for about 2 days. If I went in and knelt at his feet he wouldn't even notice I was there. I don't know which was worse, his porn addiction or video game addiction. The outcome was the same for both.




LaTigresse -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 4:24:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

and I bet you will never willingly take a pic of one! *grins*


Yes I would...........for a price.




TheLovedOne -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 5:31:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: myotherself

I absolutely refused to consider meeting any Dom who had a fuck pic in his profile.

Screamed to me of 'any cunt in a storm'...and my cunt is very picky [:D]


I laughed SO hard at that, I almost fell off my chair!.
But fully agree.
Same with 'Couples' that only have the female displayed.
What's with that?.

Just gives me a case of the icks.





JanahX -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 6:04:40 PM)

A felony huh? On which planet are you speaking of?

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ORIGINAL: Okeanos

Two different traits of people have been confused in this thread:
1. The tendency of people to have opposite-sex pictures (ex/stock/porn/whatever) in their profile.
2. The tendency of people to have an opposite-sex picture as their AVATAR.
The first one is an infraction.
The second one is felony.





descrite -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 6:17:19 PM)

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How do you reconcile the 1950s stereotype perpetuated by men who came home and wanted their women raising kids, tending the house and shackled to him through the judicial system instead f being an independent earning member of the workforce?


I reconcile it two ways:

1) That was a very small archetype that only really existed on television and popular culture, and among a select minority of a certain demographic.

2) Let's see if I understand the question (because it's always been posed in a way that posits Woman As Victim): how come men created a society where women didn't have to leave the house except for recreational purposes, and their "job" was to look after kids for a few hours between the time they came home from government school and when dad commuted back from his 8-hour day at the office (which happened 6 days per week)? That's the question? How come men made it thus?




Alecta, I dig you a lot, and I think we agree on quite a bit...but have you been to other continents, seen non-Western cultures? Women not only do all those things, but also work outside the home for 10-12 hours per day; that's in addition to the wifely and motherly tasks. In many cultures, women are the primary breadwinners. In fact, most non-Western (and I'll go you one better: non-American) men are lazy bastards, whose productivity falls far below that of women (ceteris paribus).

I guarantee a patriarchy does not include monogamy. Nor prohibition of prostitution.






Alecta -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 7:30:36 PM)

Descrite, I'm not from around here. I am a third of the way from passing the mark where I've lived in the Western hemisphere longer than I have been in the Eastern Hemisphere. I have not, however, spent significant amounts of time in the extreme Southern nor Northern hemispheres and my real time experience with the "Old Country" is not as extensive as I would like.

However, I greatly disagree with your analysis regarding non American men being lazy. In my experience, it has been quite the opposite although I would expand the demograph to "North American". I will grant however that there are certain middling global demographs that come a close second.

In Asian countries such as China. costs of living is so high and the challenges towards earning a living wage in a modern job are such that both partners are forced to work out of need, not because one or the other refuses to pull their weight. In other Eastern countries, in the greater majority of cases, the woman has motherly and home-making responsibilities thrust upon her on top of her career because the man will not touch them. "Enlightened" Eastern countries are all facing the ageing population because given the freedom to choose the kind of life they want to lead and the society they want to live in free of traditions and expectations in the last decade or so (some earlier than others), the women have overwhelmingly chosen to lead their own lives and pursue their own careers over marriage, children and a frilly home (that hubby bought. They still like frilly homes, but they want to buy it themselves). Did that backfire on you a little bit? ;)

Now let us discuss less "open" eastern countries where people are still influenced to a large extent by patriarchal traditions; the same traditions that teach that the woman's place is in the home, raising children, taking care of her husband. Observe how given an opportunity, the women will do everything and anything she can to escape that utopia of the "home country" where men are expected to give them that life of "home, marriage, kids". If this life is the universal deep feminine desire, and a society where this is the norm is the triumph of feminine wishes over masculine needs, why are so many women so desperate to leave it behind?

Bearing in mind the issue discussed is not a comparison of productivity, but the desire for the white picket fence.

Regarding the 1950s comment, yes, the question was how do you explain that the 1950s lifestyle was perpetrated by men and in vanilla world connotative of a man's wet dream and a woman's nightmare?

And no, I think you will find that you are wrong with the guarantee. You forget that the man In Charge may not desire the same luxuries that he enjoys be given to other men. In fact, there are rampant examples of it everywhere throughout history and geography. Don't make me dig up your harem porn for you :p


(ETA: my math regarding my age/travels was off.)




RemoteUser -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/6/2012 7:56:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: descrite

2) Let's see if I understand the question (because it's always been posed in a way that posits Woman As Victim): how come men created a society where women didn't have to leave the house except for recreational purposes, and their "job" was to look after kids for a few hours between the time they came home from government school and when dad commuted back from his 8-hour day at the office (which happened 6 days per week)? That's the question? How come men made it thus?



Regarding this: I'm raising my autistic son by myself, on top of working, taking care of the house, and tending to my girl.

Trust me. It's a job.




sid123 -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/15/2012 1:24:38 AM)

I am getting more out of the blue messages from women after I put up a picture of someone I had tied up.

I am talking to some of them still and hope to meet some of them. I think it is helping get some people to contact me because for now I am looking for something a little different than most.

I think it shows that I can do something with rope when so many cannot tie a knot. Several out here of course can but how do others know if you can actually do anything with rope.




sid123 -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/15/2012 1:28:35 AM)

I want to put up a photo of someone I have actually bound that has the caption..."This could be you"




ClassAct2006 -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/15/2012 3:03:47 AM)

People can choose how they want to live. Some are happy single, some with multiple partners, some married, some cohabiting. In general in most cultures most people are straight and most want to live with a partner in various ways.

On the question of photographs often women do look better than men (and I even say that as a woman with no sexual interest in other women at all ever) so a p icture of some pretty girlfriend rather than a huge hulking fat unfit older bald man might well draw more admirers although at some point all of us have to reveal the sorry truth about our looks.

From my own point of view if someone has so little status or need for privacy that they can risk a photograph given we now have picture searching on google they probably aren't likely to match me therefore no picture equals - very good.




LaTigresse -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/15/2012 4:21:36 AM)

There is no rule that states anyone MUST post a photo of themselves when creating a profile. Posting photos of other people, especially people that are not in your household and part of your personal current dynamic, is just misrepresentative and pathetic.

On the pathetic scales it's right up there below the toy photos. Whether those toys be cars, motorcycles, or whips.

I always laugh at the guys trying to be tough, posing with arms crosses to create faux muscles, and cheesy tough guy sunglasses, as well. Then there are the women that hold a camera up, pointing down at her cleavage, zoomed in. To hide the double chin, and gut below the boobs.

Ya, most of us do something that is, at some level, deceitful. Doesn't show us as we are fully. Highlighting what we wish we were.




NuevaVida -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/15/2012 6:53:22 AM)

~ Fast Reply ~

Whenever I've seen pics of women on a man's profile, I've thought, "Well he already has a woman, so I'm not interested" and moved on.

If it's a case of a man putting up pics of his partner, but he doesn't even reference on his profile that he *has* a partner, let alone who she is, I think it's tacky and false advertising (especially if his profile is written in a way that seems to want to attract more women). I actually see that a lot.

The Mister has pics of playing with me on his profile, but his profile clearly states, "In a committed relationship with NuevaVida" on it. I have no idea why he has them up, other than he likes them and yeah there's probably some showing off going on there because he thinks I'm pretty hot (yay for me!).

I don't really have an opinion one way or another about pictures of toys. I figure they like their toys, this is kind of a social site, and they can be good topics of conversations.

I don't judge whether someone is dominant or otherwise, simply by their photos.




sexyred1 -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/15/2012 7:37:05 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RemoteUser


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ORIGINAL: descrite

2) Let's see if I understand the question (because it's always been posed in a way that posits Woman As Victim): how come men created a society where women didn't have to leave the house except for recreational purposes, and their "job" was to look after kids for a few hours between the time they came home from government school and when dad commuted back from his 8-hour day at the office (which happened 6 days per week)? That's the question? How come men made it thus?



Regarding this: I'm raising my autistic son by myself, on top of working, taking care of the house, and tending to my girl.

Trust me. It's a job.



Thanks for saying that. I have an autistic nephew and my brother and sister in law work and raise him and it is very difficult. I know so many men and women who work and raise children and I admire them.

However, your point will be lost on the person you replied to since he is hell bent on creating a pseudo-intellectual image of himself that cannot disguise his extreme misogyny and bitterness. In every thread he has posted on he has put down women, calling women victims, calling teen age suicides victims, etc.

So he won't listen to you, even though you are a guy.




littlewonder -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/17/2012 12:34:26 AM)

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If it's a case of a man putting up pics of his partner, but he doesn't even reference on his profile that he *has* a partner, let alone who she is, I think it's tacky and false advertising (especially if his profile is written in a way that seems to want to attract more women). I actually see that a lot
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Master has pictures of me on his profile but it does not say anything about him having a slave or anything. Like Master said, all they would have to do is come to the forums and read about him. Most regular people on this side already know we are together and since he's not searching for anything, it just doesn't matter what he has on his profile.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Master/Doms that have women in their pics (10/17/2012 1:09:24 AM)

Sometimes a guy puts up a pic with wimmens in it to get the message across.

[img]http://www.collarme.com/photos/408246p01.jpg[/img]




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