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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

jeez, are you even reading what i'm writing?

if the speed limit is 70, and i drive at 70 i'm not impeding anyone but the dick head behind me that thinks they can drive at a greater speed than the limit. so, the impeding point is moot. nothing, and i repeat, NOTHING is different for ANY driver on the road when it comes to speed limits.

so yet again i will say this; anyone coming up behind me, giving me a 'nudge' or anything else can just fuck the hell off because I will be driving at the limit so the only place for anyone not already in front of me is right back there behind me.

it really is that simple. the rules are the rules for EVERYONE. they do not change for the ego twat behind me.

needles

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

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ORIGINAL: cbx16v

I disagree, Needlesandpins and so does the law. The law says stick to the left most lane (here) unless you need to overtake. If it is free why is the driver in front not in it? For all they know i could be an unmarked police car/bike. Police do not have to have their lights on to travel over the speed limit so the middle lane hogger shouldn't be looking out purely for flashing lights as a warning to move over. Our electronic overhead motorway signs have even started showing 'do not hog the middle lane' recently. It wasnt me who decided to display that, its the rules here.

I'll do whatver speed suits the conditions in the left lane if its free, you'll not find me hogging the middle lane. If someone comes by me even faster and i can move safely into a slower lane i will because its courtious, why hold up someone else's day?

The tailgating and squeezing past in gaps that don't exist, im with you on that and that's unacceptable. But the middle lane hoggers are another of my pet peeves.

you are missing the point. if i am doing 70 in a 70 zone then fuck right off with expecting that you are any better a driver, or anything else. stick your arse a suitable distance behind me. when i'm ready to move i will, if not then tough luck. you are not the police, you are just someone that thinks he has the right to break the limit that the law sets for YOU.

here's another thought for you; if people are in the middle lane then why arn't you in the outside lane mr speedy? or why not just give yourself more time to stick to the limits?

the roads are not a race track, and you have no right to use them as such. take your bike, nudge right off, and use a speed track. at least there you are only putting likeminded people at risk, not general road users.

needles

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

jeez, are you even reading what i'm writing?

if the speed limit is 70, and i drive at 70 i'm not impeding anyone but the dick head behind me that thinks they can drive at a greater speed than the limit. so, the impeding point is moot. nothing, and i repeat, NOTHING is different for ANY driver on the road when it comes to speed limits.

so yet again i will say this; anyone coming up behind me, giving me a 'nudge' or anything else can just fuck the hell off because I will be driving at the limit so the only place for anyone not already in front of me is right back there behind me.

it really is that simple. the rules are the rules for EVERYONE. they do not change for the ego twat behind me.

needles

Ahhh, but what if it's an emergency.I.E.- Their wife is in the passenger seat giving birth and they're rushing to the hospital.
Whose ego is getting in the way then?

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

jeez, are you even reading what i'm writing?

if the speed limit is 70, and i drive at 70 i'm not impeding anyone but the dick head behind me that thinks they can drive at a greater speed than the limit. so, the impeding point is moot. nothing, and i repeat, NOTHING is different for ANY driver on the road when it comes to speed limits.

so yet again i will say this; anyone coming up behind me, giving me a 'nudge' or anything else can just fuck the hell off because I will be driving at the limit so the only place for anyone not already in front of me is right back there behind me.

it really is that simple. the rules are the rules for EVERYONE. they do not change for the ego twat behind me.

needles

Ahhh, but what if it's an emergency.I.E.- Their wife is in the passenger seat giving birth and they're rushing to the hospital.
Whose ego is getting in the way then?

that is never the point with a biker though is it. also i have a rear view mirror, when it's just some twat in his cock car thinking he's better than me (and yes it's usually a man) then there is no baby being delivered. quite frankly i'd be appauled at anyone speeding with a partner giving birth putting her life, that of the baby, and everyone else on the road around them, at risk by speeding instead of calling emergency services.

when people start paying alot more than me to be on the same roads, and the rules change for those people then i'll move. in the mean time they can chill their engines behind me doing the legal speed limit.

needles

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ORIGINAL: cbx16v

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

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ORIGINAL: cbx16v

I disagree, Needlesandpins and so does the law. The law says stick to the left most lane (here) unless you need to overtake. If it is free why is the driver in front not in it? For all they know i could be an unmarked police car/bike. Police do not have to have their lights on to travel over the speed limit so the middle lane hogger shouldn't be looking out purely for flashing lights as a warning to move over. Our electronic overhead motorway signs have even started showing 'do not hog the middle lane' recently. It wasnt me who decided to display that, its the rules here.

I'll do whatver speed suits the conditions in the left lane if its free, you'll not find me hogging the middle lane. If someone comes by me even faster and i can move safely into a slower lane i will because its courtious, why hold up someone else's day?

The tailgating and squeezing past in gaps that don't exist, im with you on that and that's unacceptable. But the middle lane hoggers are another of my pet peeves.

you are missing the point. if i am doing 70 in a 70 zone then fuck right off with expecting that you are any better a driver, or anything else. stick your arse a suitable distance behind me. when i'm ready to move i will, if not then tough luck. you are not the police, you are just someone that thinks he has the right to break the limit that the law sets for YOU.

here's another thought for you; if people are in the middle lane then why arn't you in the outside lane mr speedy? or why not just give yourself more time to stick to the limits?

the roads are not a race track, and you have no right to use them as such. take your bike, nudge right off, and use a speed track. at least there you are only putting likeminded people at risk, not general road users.

needles

If i sat looking at my speedo all the while id run in to the back of someone. Yes i might speed but i don't have to be speeding for someone to still be in the way so what i said still applies if i was doing 60 on the motorway and someone in front is crawling at 40. YES i am capable of driving or riding below the speed limit believe it or not. Too slow is as much of a hazard as too fast and like i said, i have no issue with moving over if i see something behind me wanting to come past and i have room to move. I wont push someone if theres no where to go, that's not what im saying I do. If it takes for me to get right behind them before they'll move all it shows is they're not paying attention, a bike is not invisible! I only have to be going 1mph faster to need to get by, im hardly breaking the law if im doing that am I? I shouldnt have to use the fast lane when the lane im in should be clear.

Its not like I go everywhere flat out at a hundred miles an hour just because I say I might go over the speed limit here and there, im sure you've gone over 70 a few times yourself and if im doing 80 on the motorway, big deal so is everyone else and we're no less safe. Speed alone doesn't kill, stopping suddenly does, if we pay attention and stay in control then no one is going to get themselves in to an accident. The british seem to have a thing against bikers and i have had people actively cut me up, purely out of spite. So part of the reason i do go a bit faster is to keep out the way of the morons. Might sound counter intuitive but it works. Im looking out for my safety before yours if you're not driving or riding the way you should be.

If my speed is too fast for the situation i will rightly slow down but if someone slow is in the way is it not right they speed up and get in line with everyone else so they don't become a hazard? I'm often at Mallory park or Donington as im fully aware of the dangers of massively overspeeding on public roads.

I think its fair to say we're going to continue to disagree on this but im not here to make enemies, im sure there are many other things we DO agree on so lets agree to disagree as im sure we could go on for ever about this and there are plenty of other peeves to be discussing (a new one for you now must be me[;)] )

Sim

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

Kana, no-one in my entire time on the roads, as either a driver, or non driver, has ever been in an emergency behind whatever i was traveling in. i'm talking purely about speeding jerks. there is a difference.

needles

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

jeez, are you even reading what i'm writing?

if the speed limit is 70, and i drive at 70 i'm not impeding anyone but the dick head behind me that thinks they can drive at a greater speed than the limit. so, the impeding point is moot. nothing, and i repeat, NOTHING is different for ANY driver on the road when it comes to speed limits.

so yet again i will say this; anyone coming up behind me, giving me a 'nudge' or anything else can just fuck the hell off because I will be driving at the limit so the only place for anyone not already in front of me is right back there behind me.

it really is that simple. the rules are the rules for EVERYONE. they do not change for the ego twat behind me.

needles

Ahhh, but what if it's an emergency.I.E.- Their wife is in the passenger seat giving birth and they're rushing to the hospital.
Whose ego is getting in the way then?

that is never the point with a biker though is it. also i have a rear view mirror, when it's just some twat in his cock car thinking he's better than me (and yes it's usually a man) then there is no baby being delivered. quite frankly i'd be appauled at anyone speeding with a partner giving birth putting her life, that of the baby, and everyone else on the road around them, at risk by speeding instead of calling emergency services.

when people start paying alot more than me to be on the same roads, and the rules change for those people then i'll move. in the mean time they can chill their engines behind me doing the legal speed limit.

needles

Whoops, missed that we were talking bout bikes.
I rescind that part.
But the rest, really? I'm kinda speechless. You don't know that persons circumstances and AGAIK you ain'y psychic so you are prejudging.
Are you guessing correctly most of the time?
Most likely, but that doesn't make you right.
The rules of the road say the fast lane is for passing.
To block it going the speed limit is simply rude.

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

Kana, no-one in my entire time on the roads, as either a driver, or non driver, has ever been in an emergency behind whatever i was traveling in. i'm talking purely about speeding jerks. there is a difference.

needles

So because you have decided that you want to drive the exact speed limit on a major highway and no one can pass, it's ok to hold up miles of traffic?
Why fight it?
Just move over and let em by. Pick your battles.
(And how exactly do you know none of those people behind you don't have an emergency-are you taking polls as you drive?)

And again, where I live it's against the law to impede traffic so that cuts both ways there. People have a right to pass. By not letting them, you are making yourself judge, jury and executioner and that ain't right

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

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ORIGINAL: Kana

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

Kana, no-one in my entire time on the roads, as either a driver, or non driver, has ever been in an emergency behind whatever i was traveling in. i'm talking purely about speeding jerks. there is a difference.

needles

So because you have decided that you want to drive the exact speed limit on a major highway and no one can pass, it's ok to hold up miles of traffic?
Why fight it?
Just move over and let em by. Pick your battles.
(And how exactly do you know none of those people behind you don't have an emergency-are you taking polls as you drive?)

And again, where I live it's against the law to impede traffic so that cuts both ways there. People have a right to pass. By not letting them, you are making yourself judge, jury and executioner and that ain't right

again you are implying that i am wrong for driving within the LAW. sorry but speeders are not right, and if they stuck to the law like other then there wouldn't actually be a problem would there?

you can't say i am wrong for sticking to the rules, but the rule breakers are right to put me, and others at risk. that's as stupid an idea as i've ever heard. the rules are there for a reason, stick to them. i'm not going to be intimidated by some twat who wants to speed. if i'm in the middle lane, for whatever reason, there is another bloody lane to use right at the side of me.

needles

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