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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 3:05:23 PM   
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Really, no matter how any of us here might answer any questions, that doesn't really matter. What matters is how the people considering a relationship/dynamic with each other will answer them. Are their answers compatible? That's what matters, not our answers. We may all have our opinions, including me, but our opinions don't matter where their possible relationship or compatibility is concerned.

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^^^ this ^^^ as you said, it wasn't about our not being of compatible, it was about methodologies.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 3:32:36 PM   
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it was about methodologies.

In that case, I would say it doesn't matter whether you or I approve of her methodology or not. She could use whatever methodology she wanted to to screen applicants & you don't have to like it. The questions she asks may be different than those you or I would use, but it doesn't make her way any less valid than yours or mine.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 5:07:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TxShrouded



This is a two part question to which answers of trust, respect, and all other

such generalized answers are instant disqualifiers. Any man standing before a

willing submissive may call himself a Dominant, but when may a Dominant

legitimately and accurately call himself a Master?


When he gets my permission.


quote:

And there are significant 

differences between D/s and M/s, but what is the key element that distinguishes 

the two and why? 


M/s is WAY cooler!

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 5:44:04 PM   
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I'm kinda surprised about the answers here. I personally saw nothing at all wrong with the question she asked the op. I would have had no problem answering it for her. I just assumed she asked him so she could figure out just where on the compatibility line he fell. I'm left scratching my head at what exactly the problem was with her question.


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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 5:48:59 PM   
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I'm kinda surprised about the answers here. I personally saw nothing at all wrong with the question she asked the op. I would have had no problem answering it for her. I just assumed she asked him so she could figure out just where on the compatibility line he fell. I'm left scratching my head at what exactly the problem was with her question.



The problem, for me, was her idea that there was a "right" answer. If she wanted to suss out a prospective Dom, the questions were an excellent way to get inside his head, see the way he thought and expressed himself, etc. If she had a preconceived idea what the right answer should be and rejected anyone who answered differently, then she is driving the whole process, and taking all control from me.

I've been married to a woman who would tell me that I needed to guess why she was upset, etc. I'm not getting into that kind of game again.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 5:57:04 PM   
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So what's the problem? Before she gets in a relationship what's wrong with finding out if someone is going to answer in her "right way"? She's simply weeding out the undesirables. If they don't answer the question in a way that suits her for a relationship then what's wrong with that? It's the same as someone asking...."do you have blue eyes and blond hair?"

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 6:17:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I'm kinda surprised about the answers here. I personally saw nothing at all wrong with the question she asked the op. I would have had no problem answering it for her. I just assumed she asked him so she could figure out just where on the compatibility line he fell. I'm left scratching my head at what exactly the problem was with her question.


I wouldn't call it a *problem* per se, just an approach that wouldn't suit me. The part that turned me off was:

" all other such generalized answers are instant disqualifiers."

Instant Disqualifiers? No further conversations about it? I just didn't like the sound of that - it turned me off. I don't compete. I'm not here to "qualify" for anyone. I'd simply move on, as the person asking the question wouldn't fall on MY compatibility line. No harm, no foul.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 6:24:49 PM   
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I just saw her as knowing what she is looking for so she just didn't want to waste her time or another person's. I know when I was single there was some stuff that were disqualifies for me and I made sure those who contacted me knew that. There was no more questions or talk about it if you didn't meet that qualifier. Don't we all have something like that when we're single?

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 6:27:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I just saw her as knowing what she is looking for so she just didn't want to waste her time or another person's. I know when I was single there was some stuff that were disqualifies for me and I made sure those who contacted me knew that. There was no more questions or talk about it if you didn't meet that qualifier. Don't we all have something like that when we're single?

Sure we do. And there are rude ways of communicating it or classy ways of communicating it. I prefer not-rude.

Rude, of course, being subjective.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 6:32:53 PM   
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I guess I just didn't see the rudeness. Just seemed like straightforward and honest to me. <shrug>


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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 6:43:34 PM   
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Like I said, it's subjective.

But you asked what people's issue with it was, so I shared mine.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 6:50:02 PM   
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I contacted someone who asked me the following question. When I did they said I was way off. I want to see how everyone else answers before I post my response. I just want to see how other would answer it....

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This is a two part question to which answers of trust, respect, and all other

such generalized answers are instant disqualifiers. Any man standing before a

willing submissive may call himself a Dominant, but when may a Dominant

legitimately and accurately call himself a Master? And there are significant

differences between D/s and M/s, but what is the key element that distinguishes

the two and why?

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First, I want to commend you on seeking expert advice.

Second, my response would be...."how big are your tits?"

I think it's important to get the key criteria out of the way at first glance.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 8:28:39 PM   
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Lookie, of course, wins.

But this is interesting:

quote:

The person isn't saying everybody has to do it her way. She's saying that her way is the One True Way for herself and what she wants. Sincerely, there is a standard answer for ME and for the dynamics I'm involved in. It's cool that other folks feel it's an area for compromise, but I don't. It's the pretty standard way things are going to happen for anybody who wants to be involved with Me.


Recently, Socks did much the same thing...and he caught a ration of shit for it.

I would ascribe that, mainly, to the inequity of supply and demand in the kink community, vis-a-vis genders.

I don't know of the existence of any male doms who get paid by het chicks. Ditto, realistically, male prostitutes paid by women (as opposed to kept men, which are different creatures). Are there any?

So while a female "sub" might be as direct and detailed as she cares to be, and still get what she wants, the same approach will not work for male subs.



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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 8:33:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I'm kinda surprised about the answers here. I personally saw nothing at all wrong with the question she asked the op. I would have had no problem answering it for her. I just assumed she asked him so she could figure out just where on the compatibility line he fell. I'm left scratching my head at what exactly the problem was with her question.

the reason is.that.you have to be stupid and inexperienced to ask.them.

How.do you see your dominance working is a valid question not that drivel. same goes for.being called master. so your two idiot leather buddies gave you a cap, i will never call you master and if they sobered.up, they wouldnt either.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 8:39:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
I'm kinda surprised about the answers here. I personally saw nothing at all wrong with the question she asked the op. I would have had no problem answering it for her. I just assumed she asked him so she could figure out just where on the compatibility line he fell. I'm left scratching my head at what exactly the problem was with her question.


I don't think there is anything wrong with the question, either. It's actually a great topic of conversation with any number of kinky people because everyone has their own opinion and experience to share.

What was wrong, IMHO, was suggesting that there is a single correct answer, and that she had it and anyone who did not provide it was clearly inauthentic or a wannabe. The only thing I suspect most folks here could agree on about that question is that there are a million good answers, each one of which can tell you a great deal about the person giving the answer, their experiences and their mindset.

She's honestly only cheating herself because instead of asking for input from those who have different points of view, she's treating it like a pass/fail question so she can quickly "grade" the papers with maximum efficiency.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 8:59:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TxShrouded


this was her response:

Honestly i thought the non response would be enough. But if you really want me to just say it, your answer was way off the mark for me personallyand did not come anywhere close to my personalreality. So obviousy the answer is a very big NO. But have fun on CM.


There, fixed it for her. Adding those couple extra words magically turns her 'one true way' rant into an actual compassionate communication.


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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 10:15:30 PM   
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I think it's kinda sad that we even need to add "imo" and "personally" to posts just so we can be all politically correct and so that we don't step in doo doo and everyone get all mad and upset.

It should be implied that EVERYTHING we write here is our own opinion. I absolutely hate that I have to put those in just so I don't get some kind of gold letter or argument.

Like I said, I don't see what the gal did wrong. So it is her one twue way...so what? I kinda think it was a good thing to ask so that she didn't waste time with someone that wasn't HER one twue way. I remember when I was single I would always ask guys if they saw themselves as D/s or M/s and what they felt that meant to them. I also would ask them what they thought Dom and Master was to them. I was very specific in what I was seeking. Anything not what I was looking for would have been a waste of both of our time.



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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 10:41:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I think it's kinda sad that we even need to add "imo" and "personally" to posts just so we can be all politically correct and so that we don't step in doo doo and everyone get all mad and upset.

It should be implied that EVERYTHING we write here is our own opinion. I absolutely hate that I have to put those in just so I don't get some kind of gold letter or argument.


Except human nature doesn't work that way. So you can state things as fact, or clarify that things are an opinion. I suppose it all depends on how you want to be received and/or understood. However, I don't see anyone "all mad and upset." I see people giving their opinions.

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Like I said, I don't see what the gal did wrong. So it is her one twue way...so what? I kinda think it was a good thing to ask so that she didn't waste time with someone that wasn't HER one twue way. I remember when I was single I would always ask guys if they saw themselves as D/s or M/s and what they felt that meant to them. I also would ask them what they thought Dom and Master was to them. I was very specific in what I was seeking. Anything not what I was looking for would have been a waste of both of our time.




A few of us explained what we didn't like about it - are you continuing to ask so that others chime in? I always asked what D/s and M/s meant to guys, too. I didn't say "the wrong answer disqualifies you." That's what is rubbing people wrong. You've said it doesn't rub you wrong, so cool. What's there not to get, though? It rubs some people wrong. Simple as that.


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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 10:45:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: descrite
Recently, Socks did much the same thing...and he caught a ration of shit for it.

I would ascribe that, mainly, to the inequity of supply and demand in the kink community, vis-a-vis genders.

I don't know of the existence of any male doms who get paid by het chicks. Ditto, realistically, male prostitutes paid by women (as opposed to kept men, which are different creatures). Are there any?

So while a female "sub" might be as direct and detailed as she cares to be, and still get what she wants, the same approach will not work for male subs.

You quoted the wrooooong chick if you want to bring the 'getting paid' stuff into it. Don't even attempt to lower Me into that shit.

I'll be the first person to agree with you that there are different opportunities between the genders for tops. I've never denied that. At the same time, don't confuse My ability with the fact that I have tits to write My own ticket.

See, part of the reason that I can do that is..... Folks come to Me. I can be in bum fuck Egypt, and I'm still a commodity. Care to talk about supply and demand? I'm the only chick this far north that does what I do. Who would have thought that six point Florentine would be such an angle?

Here's a thought, bro..... What if it's not just because I have tits? What if I really AM a top who can hold more than her own? What if I'm just as good as other presenters? What if, I have skills just as good as you?

Now, from here on out, don't you dare tarnish Me with that bullshit and I'll give you the same courtesy in return. You and I will get along just fine if you can show Me courtesy as a fellow top. You figure it out for yourself. I'm not here to teach it to you.

The day you want to talk about brass tacks...... I'll be here.

I wish you well.





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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 11:01:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I think it's kinda sad that we even need to add "imo" and "personally" to posts just so we can be all politically correct and so that we don't step in doo doo and everyone get all mad and upset.

It should be implied that EVERYTHING we write here is our own opinion.



'Here' the message board or 'here' the personals side where they were having a conversation between just them?

The reason it would make a difference to me is because they were considering each other as potential partners, not just throwing out a rhetorical question on a message board for all to participate.

I would make an extra effort with my private communications skills in a one-on-one to state my case without showing condescension that his way was not her 'one true way...MY way'. She could just as easily have said, "I appreciate you answering my questions. I'm sorry, but it won't work out for me."

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