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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/9/2012 11:07:31 PM

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... if she has preconceived notions about what the "right" answers are and is holding sole decision power, I don't think I'd be up for her brand of submissiveness anyway.

These questions are directly related to what's in his profile. It's perfectly appropriate for the sub to have an idea of what she wants from a relationship and to hold sole decision power over who she gets involved with. That said, I would phrased the question differently, myself.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 1:01:23 AM

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LP-- honestly, I didn't even have you, personally, in mind when I mentioned the economy of kink. That extended naturally from the initial part of my reply. To be frank, I didn't even know you're a pro domme until your latest post; I've never seen your profile, because I don't cruise doms/dommes.

So I wasn't, and am not, referring to you personally. And my statement still stands: there is no financial market for het male doms. From what little I have seen of five continents, this is likely universal.

If you know of evidence otherwise, I would be very interested in knowing of it.

And we can pose the contrapositive: a female sub can present herself as requiring a certain criteria from her playmates and still be overwhelmed by responses...but a het male sub is not at all well-received, proferring the very same context.

You can assert that your tits don't bring you business, and I'll totally agree, because I have no reason to doubt you...but, without them, you'd starve, right? Unless you were still beating guys, of course.

This has nothing to do with you, and everything to do with the clientele. Show me a woman who pays to get beaten by a man, and I will be flabbergasted.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 1:27:00 AM

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I am no pro domme. I will tell you what I do.....

I have been a presenter these past six years. I have *never* received a profit from it.

I started making BDSM candles this past year. I don't take profit from that, either. My tits have nothing to do with that quality.

Never, not once, has a male bottom brought Me a damn cent.

Don't EVER tell Me that I'll starve without sexuality. I don't do that. Not for paychecks. Not for lifestyle.

I am a blue collar Domme. I know what it is to get My hands dirty, so don't try that shit with Me. I'm probably the most down to earth Domme that you'll ever meet.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 7:28:52 AM

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Threads like this are like those Buddhist Tanka paintings where a million churning souls are locked in an endless cycle of unquenchable desire.

Would-be slave girl seems to want a Christian Grey monolog and maybe even a show of implausible and irrevocable dominant force from the get go. Nice guy Dom wants to tap dance around everything until he feels on solid ground because he doesn't want to offend. Classic deadlock.

It reminds me of junior high school where no one would ask a girl to dance, and if they did, the girls felt honor-bound to refuse. Therefore, to find a girlfriend, I had to flee the dances and try my (very middling) luck at being a hippie.

Likewise, the OP seems an unlikely winner in Castle Realm-land (to which I have jerked off a mere few dozen times and therefor cannot bring myself to diss). A carefully written plenty of fish ad seems more likely to yield up a payday for the worthy OP.

Obviously, upfront is good and social skills matter. But you get what you get, and generally it's a very flawed version of both. I love that that the woman decided to cut through all the tedious and un-hot honor/trust tire-spinning and cut to the chase. The guy likewise was direct and put out his submission = gift model front and center (not my thing AT ALL, but to each his own). As they say on the game shows, parting gifts for all.

As to the complaint that it's a mean ol' world and those dizzy bitches always have the upper hand, this too resonates all the way back to the high school gym. Meeting women off the net and then spanking their asses is alway a flukey outcome. Not one guy in 100,000 ever pulls it off, but then again, plenty of Joe Blow-Average's do just that. Lick your wounds, up your game, and decide whether you're better off back at the dance or hanging out in the parking lot with the dirt-weed crowd.

And my personal experience -homely guy who looks like Rick Steves- is that while the net is 95% dom guys chasing 5% very iffy sub girls, the actual percentage of for real partners is close to even. If you keep evolving and putting it out there, you will connect. There just aint that many people bothering. Good Luck.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 4:58:46 PM

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Lookie, of course, wins.

But this is interesting:

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The person isn't saying everybody has to do it her way. She's saying that her way is the One True Way for herself and what she wants. Sincerely, there is a standard answer for ME and for the dynamics I'm involved in. It's cool that other folks feel it's an area for compromise, but I don't. It's the pretty standard way things are going to happen for anybody who wants to be involved with Me.

Recently, Socks did much the same thing...and he caught a ration of shit for it.

I would ascribe that, mainly, to the inequity of supply and demand in the kink community, vis-a-vis genders.

I don't know of the existence of any male doms who get paid by het chicks. Ditto, realistically, male prostitutes paid by women (as opposed to kept men, which are different creatures). Are there any?

So while a female "sub" might be as direct and detailed as she cares to be, and still get what she wants, the same approach will not work for male subs.

(It's a gift, and a curse).

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 4:59:59 PM

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I am no pro domme. I will tell you what I do.....

I have been a presenter these past six years. I have *never* received a profit from it.

I started making BDSM candles this past year. I don't take profit from that, either. My tits have nothing to do with that quality.

Never, not once, has a male bottom brought Me a damn cent.

Don't EVER tell Me that I'll starve without sexuality. I don't do that. Not for paychecks. Not for lifestyle.

I am a blue collar Domme. I know what it is to get My hands dirty, so don't try that shit with Me. I'm probably the most down to earth Domme that you'll ever meet.

I too am selfless....a pro sub and I have never profited from same.

(It's because I'm a giver).

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 6:49:00 PM

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As a male dom, I could go pro, but want to keep my amateur status in case it ever becomes an Olympic sport.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 7:03:47 PM

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As a male dom, I could go pro, but want to keep my amateur status in case it ever becomes an Olympic sport.

Well stated.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 11:13:43 PM

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Never, not once, has a male bottom brought Me a damn cent.

Okay. Then I wasn't addressing you. You make candles-- swell. If you sold automobiles as the Kinky Car Lady, I still wouldn't be addressing you. I was talking about pro dommes/doms. If I wasn't clear, I apologize.

Saline, your post is one of the best things the Interwebs have to offer. Kickass, and spot on. Thank you.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/10/2012 11:51:46 PM

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1. When he stops being such a pretentious twat!

2. D/s are worse than A/s, B/s or C/s, but M/s are a complete and utter fail!

^^^ this^^^

that post really made me laugh hard. Thank you.

This said. I don't have problems with subs asking questions or wanting to know in an essay form what my point of view is on anything. What bothers me a bit is when they think their own answer is the only correct answer. I think we all agree that most BDSM terms have different meaning for different people and that what really matters is what the two involved in the realtionship accept and agree with about their meaning.

Ok i just read what i wrote and i understand it wasn't that clear. Please bear with me. Not being a native english speaker makes it at times difficult for me to explain myself.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/11/2012 3:19:57 AM

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Never, not once, has a male bottom brought Me a damn cent.

Okay. Then I wasn't addressing you. You make candles-- swell. If you sold automobiles as the Kinky Car Lady, I still wouldn't be addressing you. I was talking about pro dommes/doms. If I wasn't clear, I apologize.

Saline, your post is one of the best things the Interwebs have to offer. Kickass, and spot on. Thank you.

If you specifically address Me as LP, and then you change to a general comment, you might want to make that clear. Just thought.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/11/2012 9:38:17 AM

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If you specifically address Me as LP, and then you change to a general comment, you might want to make that clear. Just thought.

Very good point, and you're right. I apologize. It wasn't clear.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/11/2012 6:19:02 PM

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Say what? ALrighty then.

Heres your answer 99.9% of you could live an entire lifetime and never even come close to masterhood.

Huh, I don't see how that really answer the question but on the same thought, some would say 99% of the subs out there aren't submissive, they're self involved narcissists using sex and "submission" do get a free ride....of course saying such wouldn't be helpful and it would be the typical petty, 'pay attention to me' shock value kinda thing you see from people who's only skill in life is being on the internet, so I'm glad I didn't say it

Same answer. There are very few masters, made from genuine doms.
It takes a genuine dom to develop into a master. This is a rare skill, and highly individualized. Of course IMO.

I dont agree, you have to experience that in person, not from an impersonal internet superficial connection.
BUt to each their own.

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RE: How would you have answered this? - 10/13/2012 7:22:16 PM

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Yes, why aren't there more male professional Doms. There should be. I'm sure I would be a client at least once in my life.

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Show me a woman who pays to get beaten by a man, and I will be flabbergasted.

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