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Rochsub2009 -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/15/2012 8:41:59 AM)

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susie -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/15/2012 11:50:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop


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ORIGINAL: ToyOfRhamnusia

Answering your question, GreedyTop: I would never send you a mail after reading that profile. I find it extremely offensive and unattractive. And if I, for some strange reason, really should think I had a legitimate reason to contact you, then I would expect a very rude reply, at best, if any.

If someone wants to take that profile as an invitation to dating, then they deserve whatever shit you will dish out, including complete ignorance.


And yet I STILL get emails from random dudes ranging from "yer hawt" to "So, what are you looking for", and then the oh so typical "on ur nees, bich" (yes, I did get one spelled like that), to even more offensive crap.


So.. in what universe am I considered rude for not responding?



That made me go and look at your profile GT. I obviously need a new dictionary as I obviously don't understand what offensive and unattractive actually mean.

Now off to check my inbox for your very rude reply[:D]




wnyThroatLover -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/15/2012 11:56:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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^^^^^^^^^^^So incredibly much of that^^^^^^^^^^^^^




AVegasMaster -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/15/2012 12:07:10 PM)

I always respond to any e-mail. Even if is jsut to say I'm not interested. Perhaps because I don't get that many

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Moonhead -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/15/2012 12:24:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AVegasMaster

I always respond to any e-mail. Even if is jsut to say I'm not interested. Perhaps because I don't get that many

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Emphasis added as I suspect this is the point that a few of the whinier posters in this thread cannot get their heads around...




LadyPact -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/15/2012 1:24:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wnyThroatLover


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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^^^^^^^^^^^So incredibly much of that^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It never really dies, Dude. It just goes to sleep for a while before coming back. Sure, it looks like it comes with a different face or various language, but it's never completely gone. It's like a Friday the Thirteenth movie. Freddie just keeps coming back over and over no matter how many times you kill him.





Rochsub2009 -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/15/2012 1:56:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

It never really dies, Dude. It just goes to sleep for a while before coming back. Sure, it looks like it comes with a different face or various language, but it's never completely gone. It's like a Friday the Thirteenth movie. Freddie just keeps coming back over and over no matter how many times you kill him.




So very true. Although in this case, I'm not sure that it was the thread that was analogous to a movie monster. Rather, I think that in this thread, Descrite was Jason and ToyOfRhamnusia was Freddy Kruegger. They just wouldn't go away, regardless of how many rounds of ammo were shot at them. Any normal person would have died long ago, but those two just kept coming back to cause more pain. [:D]




DomMeinCT -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/16/2012 7:08:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

It never really dies, Dude. It just goes to sleep for a while before coming back. Sure, it looks like it comes with a different face or various language, but it's never completely gone. It's like a Friday the Thirteenth movie. Freddie just keeps coming back over and over no matter how many times you kill him.




This, and fat threads, and the bitching about findommes threads, et al.

We should just have a section called "This is the Thread That Never Ends" into which the mods can drop every thread that falls into the the repetitive bitching category.




OsideGirl -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/16/2012 10:33:54 AM)

I just saw this on FetLife and thought it was hysterical:

https://fetlife.com/users/43637/posts/510357


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Dear Probably Well Meaning but Somewhat Annoying and/or Creepy Guy

I don't think most women on FL want to be bitchy to strangers, but unfortunately the clueless behavior of some men make us a bit quick to jump down throats. Sorry about that, but when bombarded with idiocy and disrespect, sometimes it's hard to maintain composure.

Sadly, this seems to be picking up around here lately. From now on I'm just going to send a link to this in response:

Dear Probably Well Meaning but Somewhat Annoying and/or Creepy Guy,

Congratulations! You've just joined Fetlife and discovered an amazing new world. A world you may have dreamed about in your fantasies but never imagined actually existed somewhere. Awesome, isn't it?

I know what your first instinct probably is. It's to grab your mouse with one hand, your cock with the other, and hit up every potentially available woman and group in your area in one night. With hundreds of women, surely if you friend request or message each one of them then getting freaky laid is just a few minutes away!

Um, yeah...about that...

While FL may seem like a porno paradise and hookup site at first glance, it is actually first and foremost a community. Communities are bonded by common interests and social order. Obviously, you have a common interest or you wouldn't be here. But do you understand the social aspect? Let's talk about basic Fetlife etiquette in regards to approaching women.

1. Who the fuck are you?

Before the wanking and stalking commences, please take an hour or so and thoughtfully fill out your profile information. Your "About Me" text doesn't have to be worthy of Shakespeare, but it should be more than a simple "want to eat pussy." Did you list your orientation and what you're looking for? Did you add some fetishes? If you are comfortable adding a photo, that helps too. Do not make your only photo of your cock. I assure you, unless spectacular in some way, it will most likely drive more women away than attract them. Spectacular or not, most women care more about what the cock is attached to than the cock itself anyway.

2. Why are you here?

If you're here to meet a partner, then your next destination should really be the Fetlife groups. Before you go crazy spamming every group in your area though, keep a few things in mind.

Many groups have rules about posting introductions and seeking out partners. READ THE RULES OF THE GROUP BEFORE YOU JOIN AND POST. Do not immediately post something like "where are all the single hot sub ladies at?" Do not post a personal ad if it is against the rules, period. There are groups just for that, though.

Do post something intelligent. Use good grammar and spelling. First impressions count, even online ones. It doesn't hurt to take some time to read and learn about your kinks, too.

Use local groups to find local events, and then go to those local events. This is hands down the easiest way to meet people and become part of the community.

Yes, I know that coming out IRL is scary and intimidating and you don't want to do it. But for the time investment, the rewards will be much greater than trying to talk 50 random women from the internet into meeting a stranger (you) in a coffee shop to talk about how you'd like to get your rocks off.

3. Why are you friend requesting me?

Holy crap, look at that totally hot picture! Are you instantly hitting the friend request button? No matter how hard your dick is, please take a moment to actually read the profile of the person you are friend requesting. Is she up for being friends with random internet people? Does she have a Master who needs to approve the friend request first? Follow her guidelines and behave accordingly. Be respectful.

4. Why are you sending me a message?

Did you see the above about reading a woman's profile before friend requesting? The same rules apply for sending a message.

Can you imagine just walking up to a stranger in a grocery store and saying to her "yur hot. wuz up?" Would you be surprised if she gave you a weird look and then just walked away? Would you walk up to a stranger in a coffee shop and say, "slut, you're my bitch now and should get where you belong! On your knees and start sucking my cock!" Or throw yourself at her feet, crying "this slave is the scum of the earth, Goddess Ma'am, and eagerly awaits you to trample its balls!"

Sending a message to a stranger on Fetlife like the above is not all that much different. Please, for the love of kink just don't do it.

Newsflash - women tend to get lots of messages on sites like this. If the best thing you can come up with is "what's up" then you're not ready to send a message to that woman. If you're not already in a D/s relationship with someone, then sending them an explicitly domly or subby message is not appropriate. Especially if you send it to a woman and it isn't even her correct orientation! E.g. sending a dominating message to a woman who identifies as a domina or top.

If you want to be a cut above the rest, send a respectful, creative, and intelligent message that actually SAYS something. A tasteful compliment, a comment on a recent post she made, a question about a relevant fetish, whatever. If you don't get a response, brush it off and move on. Sending an additional angry message calling the woman a bitch for not responding isn't going to win you any points. Guess what? She may be busy, or offline, or simply not interested in responding. The fact that you sent a message does not somehow entitle you to a response.

Do not send the same mass message to every woman you can find in your area. It's obvious, and we do talk to each other.

5. Finally, to the Thoughtful and Not Annoying at All Guys

For those of you who already do all of the above, thank you for NOT being That Guy. You are a breath of fresh air, and if you're not getting laid now I hope you do in the very near future.

Happy Perving,
suki

EDIT: Holy crap, the comments and love just keep on comin'. Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to comment or send a message, many of them have made me smile. For those who have asked - yes, please feel free to link or repost as you desire as long as you include a credit to me and a link back to the original writing here..

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Srednivashtar2 -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 7:42:54 AM)

- People here seem to get very angry when a dissenting idea is offered. Like, to the point of cursing and ad hominem attacks. This is particularly interesting among a population that is complaining about all the rude communication they receive. On top of that, hearing only one view, repeatedly, leads to a giant echo chamber (seemingly shaped like a uterus, evidently). A monolithic hivemind is nothing to be proud of.

- Several posters have mentioned that they don't care about my opinion. More than once. Think about that for a second. If you don't get it, read it again.


This, in particular, is extremely distasteful:

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Im NOT looking - Its just fun to see what guys out there are thinking that are looking for something - and their approach on how they think theyre going to accomplish that.


We used to call that "being a tease," and it was frowned upon. If you don't understand why, go examine the notion of "bumfights," where destitute people are encouraged to brawl, on film, for food, or watch churlish Western expats throwing coins in the streets of third-world shitholes, so they can laugh at the urchins scrambling for it, or briefly observe cruel children taunting a tethered, hungry animal.

If you still don't understand why that's unseemly, you and I don't share the same species. If none of you can fathom why that's dehumanizing, you no longer have my scorn: you have my pity.
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kalikshama -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 7:52:59 AM)

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Your "About Me" text doesn't have to be worthy of Shakespeare, but it should be more than a simple "want to eat pussy."


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mnottertail -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 7:54:12 AM)

I want your lipstick on my dipstick.

Shakespeare only wishes he would have said that.   And you can quote me.




Munchkin1 -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 8:16:54 AM)

If someone walked up to me in the street and said something like "nice arse" I would still answer them, I may not always be polite about it, however I would respond to them, my mum bought me up with manners and she always told me it is rude and childish to ignore people, common courtesy costs us nothing and brings its own rewards in time.

The internet should not negate the morals and ideals we were raised with, however in my experience that is just what people do, it is the same everywhere, people on the whole think just because you cannot see the person you are being rude to it does not hurt them, and so what if the jerks get defensive and bark back, if that is how they cope with rejection that is up to them, I know I have not been rude and that I am respecting my fellow man in the way I was raised to




sexyred1 -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 8:21:13 AM)

That is nice of you.

I am in NYC all the time and since I have been a teen, men have screamed out things to me like nice ass, nice tits, hey red, is it red all over, sit on my face baby, wanna fuck, blow me baby, etc. etc.

I am very nice and will speak to anyone who says something nice to me, but honestly, if I spoke back to all the ill mannered idiots who come up to me as I walk around I would have severe whiplash.

So, no, I can sleep very well at night without speaking to idiots, in person or online.




DaddySatyr -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 8:36:53 AM)

Ya know, if I were crass enough to say those things to a lady, I'd expect more than a few choice words. Red, I don't think anyone is disagreeing with ladies ignoring fucktards. I think the issue here (to go with your above post) would be something along the lines of: "That dress really brings out the color in your eyes." garnering no response from you. That would be rude (in my opinion, anyway).

Occasionally, I am in situations where I am approached by someone in whom I have absolutely no interest. It doesn't cost me anything (except a few seconds) to say: "I'm really flattered. Thank you, anyway".

I admit that males don't get nearly the amount of mail that females get on any site. That's a no brainer but, there is a "quick response" feature available. Is it that tough to use, when someone has actually put some time and effort into a nice e-mail? I think that's what's being contended, here. Personally, I would NEVER use the quick response to respond to a nicely written, well presented e-mail. I think that shows a bit of disrespect, myself.

I don't think this will ever be resolved but, it's a shame to see so many people so vehemently argue for less courtesy and manners in our society. I think in a lot of ways, we're going backwards.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




OsideGirl -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 8:49:54 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I think the issue here (to go with your above post) would be something along the lines of: "That dress really brings out the color in your eyes." garnering no response from you. That would be rude (in my opinion, anyway).


Okay, let me show you how that ends up:

Version #1
Email: That dress really brings out the color in your eyes
Me: Thank you
Email: You're welcome. I'd like to get to know you better.
Me: No, thank you. I'm just here for the forums.
Email: well, you're fat ugly whore, who needs to get a job. No one wants to fuck you anyway.


Version #2
Email: That dress really brings out the color in your eyes
Me: Thank you
Email: You're welcome. I'd like to get to know you better.
Me: No, thank you. I'm just here for the forums.
Email: Why not? You can't really be here for the forums. I think we should meet and get to know each other.
Me: No, I'm really just here for the forums
Email: C'mon let's meet for a coffee. I'll be able to give you your biggest fantasies.
Me: I'm just here for the forums. I'm not looking for anything. Please leave me alone.
Email: You might as well meet me because I'm going to tell everyone that I fucked you anyway.
Me: <at that point I block him>




DaddySatyr -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 8:57:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I think the issue here (to go with your above post) would be something along the lines of: "That dress really brings out the color in your eyes." garnering no response from you. That would be rude (in my opinion, anyway).


Okay, let me show you how that ends up:

Version #1
Email: That dress really brings out the color in your eyes
Me: Thank you
Email: You're welcome. I'd like to get to know you better.
Me: No, thank you. I'm just here for the forums.
Email: well, you're fat ugly whore, who needs to get a job. No one wants to fuck you anyway.


Version #2
Email: That dress really brings out the color in your eyes
Me: Thank you
Email: You're welcome. I'd like to get to know you better.
Me: No, thank you. I'm just here for the forums.
Email: Why not? You can't really be here for the forums. I think we should meet and get to know each other.
Me: No, I'm really just here for the forums
Email: C'mon let's meet for a coffee. I'll be able to give you your biggest fantasies.
Me: I'm just here for the forums. I'm not looking for anything. Please leave me alone.
Email: You might as well meet me because I'm going to tell everyone that I fucked you anyway.
Me: <at that point I block him>



O, you know I think the world of you and I have stated so, publicly on more than one occasion but that is NOT always how those things go. Is it more often than not? Maybe. I like to give people a little bit more of the benefit of the doubt but, I may be an optimist.

I will say this: If people allow themselves to forego manners because someone else might be mean to them, there's something skewed, there.

Following that logic, I would be justified in smacking some guy in the face because I think he's about to hit a lady, when they're having a heated discussion. Or, I'd be justified in turning a corner and jumping a stranger that happens to be following me down a street because I fear he may mug me.

Yes, extreme examples but that's the logical conclusion of that kind of "I'll-be-rude-first-because-they-might-be-rude-to-me". It's an ass-backwards "Golden Rule"; one that we used to joke about (in my family) as children: "Do unto others before they do unto you". It makes you just a touch better than the person hurling the hatred at you.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 9:04:22 AM)

This thread could die a happy death if the males involved could or would understand that when you hit on a female, no matter how you do it, even if it's polite, whether it's in person or online, it is an UNSOLICITED ADVANCE.

Females train themselves from the teen years not to respond to unsolicited advances, or at least, not to respond to them politely. Why? B/c otherwise you get best case scenario, men following you around b/c they don't understand a polite no is still no, think stalkers, or those who turn into instant assholes when they are rejected, or those who think enough persistence will pay (pls see Ogirl's examples above.)

This is very common. EVERY attractive, sexy female gets hit on numerous times every single time she goes out her front door. EVERY TIME. Yes, even at my age. ALL THE TIME. Men I don't know try to talk to me, try to touch me, want to get to know me, etc etc. Most are very polite. Some when I turn them down (I tend to tell them I'm married, it's something most men respect) say what a lucky man he must be.

Yes, even the abundantly curvaceous ladies. Yes, even the ladies like me of a certain age. I think submissive women get hit on even more, b/c they do tend to be more aware of their sexuality.

Please. Try. To. Get. This. Straight. Sexy women get hit on all the time. An unsolicited advance from a male is so common it really is like a viagra ad. Really. Do you respond to all your viagra ads with a no thanks? Of course not, that would be silly. What if when you did, the bot got ugly??? Turned into a stalker bot or a virus bot or a rapist bot???

What about this don't you guys get?









OsideGirl -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 9:05:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
O, you know I think the world of you and I have stated so, publicly on more than one occasion but that is NOT always how those things go. Is it more often than not? Maybe. I like to give people a little bit more of the benefit of the doubt but, I may be an optimist.


It's probably 19 times out of 20.

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Following that logic, I would be justified in smacking some guy in the face because I think he's about to hit a lady, when they're having a heated discussion. Or, I'd be justified in turning a corner and jumping a stranger that happens to be following me down a street because I fear he may mug me.


Actually, that's not even close to same thing. What you're talking about would be the equivalent of attacking someone who sent the email, which we're not doing.

What we are doing is not answering the door when the Jehovah's Witnesses ring the door bell. They're really nice and they have a well thought out message, but I know if I open that door they'll be standing there for half an hour trying to convince me to visit or telling me that I'm going to hell.





NuevaVida -> RE: Why do people ignore mails (10/19/2012 9:09:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr


Following that logic, I would be justified in smacking some guy in the face because I think he's about to hit a lady, when they're having a heated discussion. Or, I'd be justified in turning a corner and jumping a stranger that happens to be following me down a street because I fear he may mug me.


Physical and brutal assault is quite different than not replying to an email. You're comparing violent acts of aggression with perceived rudeness.

I just read OG's comparison to not opening the door to Witnesses. Great comparison. Think of "I'm just here for the forums" on a profile as a "No Solicitors" sign on my front door.




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