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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/21/2012 9:52:24 AM   
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I don't see myself as a "collar" either (dont know anyone who does). I see myself as a person. I was only saying that although I don't see myself as a fetishist because i use the real meaning of the word fetish, i will nonetheless welcome you to the forums. I can see that you are not looking for people to welcome you.


My goodness, no sense of humour either. I would also suggest that you go look up the definition of fetish since you seem to have your own which bears no resemblance to reality.

I would not have been posting in this forum if I was not expecting a welcome. I was not expect a barrage of critique from people who obviously can't see past their knowses. Sort that little one out.





fet·ish/ˈfetiSH/
Noun:
An inanimate object worshiped for its supposed magical powers or because it is considered to be inhabited by a spirit.
A course of action to which one has an excessive and irrational commitment.\]

Yep i still dont have a fetish.

I welcomed you and you got all pissy. Get over yourself

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/21/2012 10:54:33 AM   
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Yes, welcome and good luck.

Some profile advice? Don't mind if I do.

I ponder these questions, and I think you should too:
- Why is "slim" the very first descriptor used? Why is it mentioned twice? Are these people that shallow? What do they mean by slim? Is this the only body or health issue important to them? For people so interested in a "slim" submissive, why has neither one of them stated their own weight?
- Why is the grammar so poor in this profile?
- WTF is with liking Buddhism and Christianity; tolerating Agnosticism, Catholicism, Hinduism, and Taoism; disliking Judaism and Mormonism; and hard limiting Islam, Kabbalah, Scientology, and Wicca?


Good luck indeed.
Why are some people so shallow that they have to dictate to others what they should or should not like, time they broke free from their mental straight jackets?

Also best not to show their lack of reading comprehension because they lack the intelligence to see past their own mini grammar box.

Using swear words to express oneself shows a very low level of self control and a distinct lack of linguistic knowledge.

Good luck to you too.







You're right. Swearing is so much fucking worse than being a bigot.

When reality defies the logic, it confirms the character of the writer.




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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/21/2012 11:02:31 AM   
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>>Um...first off, this is collarme, not fet....<<

Um...secondly, collaring is certainly just one of many Fetish's, as is helping other's breakout of their straight jackets.




In case you forgot to put your reading glasses on, collarme is the website...fet is a completely different site. *facepalm*

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/21/2012 11:10:25 AM   
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I don't see myself as a "collar" either (dont know anyone who does). I see myself as a person. I was only saying that although I don't see myself as a fetishist because i use the real meaning of the word fetish, i will nonetheless welcome you to the forums. I can see that you are not looking for people to welcome you.


My goodness, no sense of humour either. I would also suggest that you go look up the definition of fetish since you seem to have your own which bears no resemblance to reality.

I would not have been posting in this forum if I was not expecting a welcome. I was not expect a barrage of critique from people who obviously can't see past their knowses. Sort that little one out.





fet·ish/ˈfetiSH/
Noun:
An inanimate object worshiped for its supposed magical powers or because it is considered to be inhabited by a spirit.
A course of action to which one has an excessive and irrational commitment.\]

Yep i still dont have a fetish.

I welcomed you and you got all pissy. Get over yourself
Cherry picking your definitions to suit your argument is a very poor level of intellectual analysis.

You may believe you don't have a fetish however you deceive yourself. Welcome to reality.

Your final comment in your first post was pissing in the wind, your advice would be better aimed at those in this thread who are too full of themselves.


noun
1. an object regarded with awe as being the embodiment or habitation of a potent spirit or as having magical potency.

2. any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion: to make a fetish of high grades.

3. Psychology . any object or nongenital part of the body that causes a habitual erotic response or fixation.


a : an object (as a small stone carving of an animal) believed to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly : a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence

b : an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion : prepossession

c : an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/21/2012 1:28:20 PM   
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Again, I have no fetish. If you are talking about the psychological fetishism then you should know that this object of desire MUST be present in order to achieve sexual satisfaction. I do not require ANY of my kinks to get off sexually.
You are acting very defensive in this thread and if I were to be contemplating to join your duo I would be most certainly put off by your posts. You are the one that seems full of himself and bitter and sad. I am hoping that this is not the case and if it is then i hope that you have a strong social support that you can rely upon during this time. Good luck to you.

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 1:18:37 AM   
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>>Um...first off, this is collarme, not fet....<<

Um...secondly, collaring is certainly just one of many Fetish's, as is helping other's breakout of their straight jackets.




In case you forgot to put your reading glasses on, collarme is the website...fet is a completely different site. *facepalm*
In case you have haven't got the message yet, collarme is all about people with fetishes of some form or another as is fetlife, identical user base. Of course John Baku and all his followers obviously see no connection with the world of BDSM and Fetishism.

From the definitions posted: any object, idea, etc., eliciting unquestioning reverence, respect, or devotion: to make a fetish of high grades.

Someone who wears a collar in the context of BDSM is stating they have an unquestioning reverence, respect and devotion towards the person from whom they have accepted the collar.

In the world of anthropologists: Fetishism is essentially, the emic attribution of inherent value or powers to an object.

The evidence is clear to anyone who can read with or without glasses.


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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 1:25:23 AM   
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Oddly enough, for someone who wants to chastise others for not being aware of the definition of the word fetish, you've strayed a bit from it. Unlike the current fad of slapping the word fetish on all things related to kink, perhaps you might accept that a number of us here do *not* relate to the actual definition of the word.

Keep in mind, some of us were kinky before it was cool and before what people want to turn it into now.


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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 1:44:04 AM   
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Again, I have no fetish. If you are talking about the psychological fetishism then you should know that this object of desire MUST be present in order to achieve sexual satisfaction. I do not require ANY of my kinks to get off sexually.
You are acting very defensive in this thread and if I were to be contemplating to join your duo I would be most certainly put off by your posts. You are the one that seems full of himself and bitter and sad. I am hoping that this is not the case and if it is then i hope that you have a strong social support that you can rely upon during this time. Good luck to you.
Lady you can keep on cherry picking however the actual EVIDENCE (see previous post/s) is way beyond your narrow definition.

You also undermine your logic by resorting to emotionally driven personalised argument since you have now gone into the world of pure and unadulterated guesswork, which belies reality and only serves to provide an insight into your own world.

Widen your horizons and understand that correcting other people's misinterpretations of the written word has no relationship to the world of emotion.

You state that one of your loves is Body WORSHIP. By any definition of Fetish, that alone means you have a fetish, sexual or otherwise.

The only defensive people in the thread are those who have taken exception to being called "Fellow Fets", or misunderstood the reason for the use of that term.



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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 1:55:26 AM   
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You state that one of your loves is Body WORSHIP. By any definition of Fetish, that alone means you have a fetish, sexual or otherwise.

No, it doesn't. Not anything and everything that turns someone on or excites them just a bit is a fetish. If that were the case, EVERYBODY would be considered a fetishist, including vanilla folk.

You were corrected by someone who uses the word in a more realistic standpoint by definition. Deal with it.

If you want to consider yourself a fetishist, by all means, have at it. Stop labeling other people with words that they don't identify with or don't accept. That's not too terribly hard, is it?


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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 2:29:02 AM   
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Oddly enough, for someone who wants to chastise others for not being aware of the definition of the word fetish, you've strayed a bit from it. Unlike the current fad of slapping the word fetish on all things related to kink, perhaps you might accept that a number of us here do *not* relate to the actual definition of the word.

Keep in mind, some of us were kinky before it was cool and before what people want to turn it into now.

Oddly enough I am not chastising anyone for not being aware of the definition of the word "Fetish". Quite the reverse. This is the sentence which is in dispute:

Autumnember: "I was only saying that although I don't see myself as a fetishist because i use the real meaning of the word fetish,"

So nothing do with chastising anyone and everything to do with discussing the variety of uses and definitions.

Are you jumping to an illogical conclusion by the use of the word "US"? Or is your use of "current fad" a clue to your thought processing. You would be wrong.

Having a kink and having a Fetish, one and the same or two different concepts. To me they are two different concepts.

Now, let me tell you why I used "fellow Fets".

Fellow begins with "F", and what does kink begin with?

So all about the poet within me and sweet fanny adams to do with Kinkster versus Fetster if there is such a word.

You want to be kinky with a number of fetishes fine, fuck all to do with me, however it has everything to do with me if you and others misinterpret my words and motives and I am very kinky when it comes to pointing discrepancies in reality.

So what do you think I should have used with "fellow", Fuckers?



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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 2:32:16 AM   
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Thanks LadyPact. I seem to be having difficulty explaining this idea to this gentleman.

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 2:43:47 AM   
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You state that one of your loves is Body WORSHIP. By any definition of Fetish, that alone means you have a fetish, sexual or otherwise.

No, it doesn't. Not anything and everything that turns someone on or excites them just a bit is a fetish. If that were the case, EVERYBODY would be considered a fetishist, including vanilla folk.

You were corrected by someone who uses the word in a more realistic standpoint by definition. Deal with it.

If you want to consider yourself a fetishist, by all means, have at it. Stop labeling other people with words that they don't identify with or don't accept. That's not too terribly hard, is it?

Yes it does. Context defines the use of concepts and this is a kink/fetish website and in this context "Body worship" implies a fetish. I have never argued that something which turns someone one "just a bit is a fetish. Quite the reverse if you go back and read the definitions I have posted. That's just you moving the goal posts to justify your viewpoint.

I pointed out that there is no single definition and that both you and her are being unrealistic with your narrow-minded views of reality. Learn from it.





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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 2:48:49 AM   
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Oddly enough, for someone who wants to chastise others for not being aware of the definition of the word fetish, you've strayed a bit from it. Unlike the current fad of slapping the word fetish on all things related to kink, perhaps you might accept that a number of us here do *not* relate to the actual definition of the word.

Keep in mind, some of us were kinky before it was cool and before what people want to turn it into now.

Oddly enough I am not chastising anyone for not being aware of the definition of the word "Fetish". Quite the reverse. This is the sentence which is in dispute:

Autumnember: "I was only saying that although I don't see myself as a fetishist because i use the real meaning of the word fetish,"

So nothing do with chastising anyone and everything to do with discussing the variety of uses and definitions.

Are you jumping to an illogical conclusion by the use of the word "US"? Or is your use of "current fad" a clue to your thought processing. You would be wrong.

Having a kink and having a Fetish, one and the same or two different concepts. To me they are two different concepts.

Now, let me tell you why I used "fellow Fets".

Fellow begins with "F", and what does kink begin with?

So all about the poet within me and sweet fanny adams to do with Kinkster versus Fetster if there is such a word.

You want to be kinky with a number of fetishes fine, fuck all to do with me, however it has everything to do with me if you and others misinterpret my words and motives and I am very kinky when it comes to pointing discrepancies in reality.

So what do you think I should have used with "fellow", Fuckers?

If it had been Me, personally, I wouldn't have used "fellow" anything. I have no need to feel the call of the heard.

Absolutely! My use of the words "current fad" has quite a bit to do with My thought processing. I was never big on tourists in the leather crowd and I'm not much big on tourists on these sites.

The poet in you wanted to use two words that begin with F? Well, that's just fucking fine. If that's the best you can do at wit, who am I to judge?

The fact that your <cough? poet <cough> is not precise with language, that is your own choice. Yet, you must accept that others will take up your challenge when you attempt to place an incorrect definition of the word.

Oh, for what it's worth, I don't care about your motives. The fact that you went after that girl in your means to an end does not impress Me. Be nice to her. If you can't, we can talk about why not on the other side.

Wanna bet I just made a better impression on some than you did as a poet? This is a part of why chicks dig Me.



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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 3:00:02 AM   
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I'm not even bi and I am now into you. =)

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 3:02:19 AM   
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I'm not even bi and I am now into you. =)

And you made an old leather chick smile.

By the way, I like this avatar of yours a lot more.


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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/22/2012 3:03:23 AM   
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Thanks a lot.

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WAS: Seeking the elusive unicorn. NOW: what is "fe... - 10/22/2012 4:31:15 AM   
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FR,

After seeing how the direction of the thread had changed and consultation with the OP, this is no longer an intro thread in Introductions, but a thread in General BDSM about the definition of "fetish." This change allowed the thread to survive without moderation.

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/23/2012 12:22:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Oddly enough, for someone who wants to chastise others for not being aware of the definition of the word fetish, you've strayed a bit from it. Unlike the current fad of slapping the word fetish on all things related to kink, perhaps you might accept that a number of us here do *not* relate to the actual definition of the word.

Keep in mind, some of us were kinky before it was cool and before what people want to turn it into now.

Oddly enough I am not chastising anyone for not being aware of the definition of the word "Fetish". Quite the reverse. This is the sentence which is in dispute:

Autumnember: "I was only saying that although I don't see myself as a fetishist because i use the real meaning of the word fetish,"

So nothing do with chastising anyone and everything to do with discussing the variety of uses and definitions.

Are you jumping to an illogical conclusion by the use of the word "US"? Or is your use of "current fad" a clue to your thought processing. You would be wrong.

Having a kink and having a Fetish, one and the same or two different concepts. To me they are two different concepts.

Now, let me tell you why I used "fellow Fets".

Fellow begins with "F", and what does kink begin with?

So all about the poet within me and sweet fanny adams to do with Kinkster versus Fetster if there is such a word.

You want to be kinky with a number of fetishes fine, fuck all to do with me, however it has everything to do with me if you and others misinterpret my words and motives and I am very kinky when it comes to pointing discrepancies in reality.

So what do you think I should have used with "fellow", Fuckers?



If it had been Me, personally, I wouldn't have used "fellow" anything. I have no need to feel the call of the heard.

Absolutely! My use of the words "current fad" has quite a bit to do with My thought processing. I was never big on tourists in the leather crowd and I'm not much big on tourists on these sites.

The poet in you wanted to use two words that begin with F? Well, that's just fucking fine. If that's the best you can do at wit, who am I to judge?

The fact that your <cough? poet <cough> is not precise with language, that is your own choice. Yet, you must accept that others will take up your challenge when you attempt to place an incorrect definition of the word.

Wanna bet I just made a better impression on some than you did as a poet? This is a part of why chicks dig Me.





If it had been Me, personally, I wouldn't have used "fellow" anything. I have no need to feel the call of the heard.

Well it wasn't you and that was not my question, or did you HERD it wrong.

Absolutely! My use of the words "current fad" has quite a bit to do with My thought processing. I was never big on tourists in the leather crowd and I'm not much big on tourists on these sites.

My, my, the self inflated ego is now wanting to dictate who uses the site as well. On a par with your use of "us", in denial and ignorance about other people's experience in the lifestyle. Arrogant rubbish

The poet in you wanted to use two words that begin with F? Well, that's just fucking fine. If that's the best you can do at wit, who am I to judge?

Poetry in this context had nothing to do with wit, a friendly greeting, so your judgemental mis-interpretation is way off the accepted usage.

The fact that your <cough? poet <cough> is not precise with language, that is your own choice. Yet, you must accept that others will take up your challenge when you attempt to place an incorrect definition of the word.

Early on in the thread someone challenged my grammar and got it wrong. In the case of your grammar and concept, maybe your cough distracted your mental faculties since you make no sense. My poet does not exist, your imagination running riot again. How anyone can interpret that I am challenging people by saying "Hi, fellow fets" is puerile to say the least. Wah, wah wah, he called me a "fet". Is there even such a word?

Oh, for what it's worth, I don't care about your motives. The fact that you went after that girl in your means to an end does not impress Me. Be nice to her. If you can't, we can talk about why not on the other side.

Whoopee, the knightess in dull fancy dress, widing to the wescue. My conversations with other people are no concern of yours however much they love to receive misplaced validation. If I wish to challenge others on their perceptions then I will and it is hypocritical to say in one sentence that people will challenge me and in the next breathe make that a one way process. I would point out to you that so far all you have done in support of your stance is revel in a stream of personal verbal diarrhoea. However much people like yourself and Autumnumber, on this site may scream otherwise, you all have a fetish of some kind or other when looking at your profile, when applying ALL the definitions and usage recorded by people far more advanced in their knowledge of linguistics than your narrow-minded definition, irrespective what you think. Whine all you want, you will never be right.

Wanna bet I just made a better impression on some than you did as a poet? This is a part of why chicks dig Me.

I have no interest in what others may think, individual dialogues are my interest and I have certainly made an impression on you, which is why I impress people in RL.

I would be surprised if intelligent people would be very impressed by such a domineering motherly attitude. I would suggest you reserved this fetish for your little boys rather than projecting it upon strangers.




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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/23/2012 12:24:57 PM   
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I sooooo wish that I had known my worth, back in the day when I was willing and interested in being in a Poly relationship as the all elusive unicorn.

Sorry, a bit divergent from the actual topic but ....every time I read about the "Unicorn," I kick myself for not using that leverage.

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RE: Seeking the elusive unicorn. - 10/23/2012 12:28:36 PM   
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Another one here who does not consider herself a fetishist. A fetish is something you can not do without to get off. I don't have one of those. I can get off on plain old missionary sex with someone I love and I am in a relationship with. I guess you could say sex and intimacy is my fetish in my relationship if you want I guess.

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