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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/22/2012 3:07:22 PM   
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Or not.....

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/22/2012 3:08:38 PM   
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I have always wanted a chicken head on the end of my peener so I could scare girls and peck them in the head with it.




Would that make you a peckerhead, or a headpecker?

...and if you did have that on you, you could literally have girls choke your chicken!

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/22/2012 4:34:06 PM   
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I have always wanted a chicken head on the end of my peener so I could scare girls and peck them in the head with it.


Wahoo! That sounds awesome!

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/22/2012 5:44:36 PM   
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Personally, I am arguing that the human brain is simply an evolved system, capable of way more than its biological parts. This is way older than two decades. My statement is supported not by fringe science, not by theoretical postulates, but evolution. You on the other hand seem hell bent on taking the word of a theoretical scientist as pat. I can prove what I say simply by looking at how humans acted down the millenia. Do you think primitive man could use a cell phone or drive an 18 wheeler? You know what, based on our learning capability, I would say with enough information and practice, they could. But that prehistoric man had a brain hundreds of times more evolved than today's cat. And yet you still insist on saying the two brains are the same. Once again you avoid my only statement, that in order to understand a thing, you must communicate with it. You can't reason with biology, why cats don't talk. Its an evolutionary answer.

Genetic manipulation, I did not say it was impossible, just not able to be done now, so thank you for agreeing with me. And as for your brain link, it was a rat brain. I cannot stress this enough, we are talking about human brains aren't we? I could discover all there is to know about a rat brain right now, and still have no clue how the human brain works. Just because you seem to put faith in theories and hypothesis, does not discount the fact that they just plain could be wrong. This is why scientists do not take them as gospel. I mentioned trepanning, it was one of the earliest forms of brain exploration. They thought that by drilling holes in the skull, we could cure brain related illnesses. When the practice was used, every doctor was positive this was the correct choice. Were they correct, was simply drilling a hole into the skull going to fix insanity or cerebral palsy, hell no. Whether you want to admit it or not, evolution and simple common sense, explains more than the theory that I like carrots because I was genetically predisposed to.

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/22/2012 11:37:39 PM   
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Oh, that's just great. I love it when I wax egotistical and self righteous. Especially in public.

Pam

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 12:37:25 AM   
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You know, that would be handy at the movies too.

Your right hand could be in charge of the carbonated beverage, your left could be busy with the little lady, and your peener could be wolfing down the popcorn.

I'm seeing a super-sized portion of win.

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 12:42:30 AM   
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I have always wanted a chicken head on the end of my peener so I could scare girls and peck them in the head with it.





Some things should just never be done, even if we ever get the technology to... What would you feed it?

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 6:36:25 AM   
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You on the other hand seem hell bent on taking the word of a theoretical scientist as pat.
When they have a rat brain operated robot, that's pretty pat.

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And yet you still insist on saying the two brains are the same.
They work in the same way. The human brain has some considerable differences in its structure, though, and it has both a much greater overall mass and much greater proportional mass.

Then there are other issues, such as mutations in the genes for different dopamine receptors. The cat brain has about the same receptors, right? But the issue is that their dopamine receptor D2 does something very weird. It gives them their urge to lick themselves. I'm really not kidding. Well, it's a good thing it does this because cats actually need this behavior to control their body temperature. However, I would love to know why it does this in cats specifically. Actually, it might have been D5 or D1 because it doesn't really make sense that it would be a receptor from the D2-like family...I read that article 5 years ago or something, so I can't be sure.

Genes and behavior gets even weirder. The body makes this protein called the disheveled-1 protein. If you disrupt it in mice, it inhibits their social behavior. Where they would usually organize themselves into a pile when they sleep, if you knock the gene out, they tend to disperse. Well, in humans, problems in the same gene don't have that effect, but problems in this gene are implicated in some incredibly rare diseases.

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And as for your brain link, it was a rat brain. I cannot stress this enough, we are talking about human brains aren't we? I could discover all there is to know about a rat brain right now, and still have no clue how the human brain works.
The way they work is all but identical. There is a considerable amount of variation between the two species, though. For example, while corticosterone seems to be an amazingly important hormone in rodents and many non-mammalian species, it serves only as an intermediate corticosteroid in humans. How weird is that, right?

Nevertheless, rodents serve as excellent simple models for how the human body and mind work. That's why they're so widely used in research. The way their brains and bodies are put together, at a basic level, is more like ours than any living creature that is remotely commensurate with them in terms of convenience as lab specimens.

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I mentioned trepanning, it was one of the earliest forms of brain exploration. They thought that by drilling holes in the skull, we could cure brain related illnesses.
Well, you also promised me pyramid hats.

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When the practice was used, every doctor was positive this was the correct choice. Were they correct, was simply drilling a hole into the skull going to fix insanity or cerebral palsy, hell no. Whether you want to admit it or not, evolution and simple common sense, explains more than the theory that I like carrots because I was genetically predisposed to.
I'm going to get back to working on my Latin.

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RE: BDSM in nature - 10/23/2012 6:38:51 AM   
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Yes - I can see the logic in this. When I go on African Safaris, I look for the secret Lion BDSM Clubs in the bush. The Lions like to walk around in leather garb and put on shows. I dont enjoy the music they play during their scenes. The bongo drums just dont do it for me.


I needed a laugh...Thanks JanahX!

edited for more comment...the rest of ya'll are cracking me up too!

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 6:42:17 AM   
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I have always wanted a chicken head on the end of my peener so I could scare girls and peck them in the head with it.





Some things should just never be done, even if we ever get the technology to... What would you feed it?


Women lips and vulvas.

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 6:44:50 AM   
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Can I just say that this

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I'm not making wild assumptions, I'm listening to what I hear online.


is still the funniest thing I have read all week

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 10:05:12 AM   
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And once again you dodged the question you could not answer... Why haven't mice, cats, dogs, hell even chimpanzees developed on a level equal to that of a human? You keep saying that the brain of a rat is the same as a human, then according to that the rat should also evolve as we do. We both started on the evolutionary track together, all mammals. But Darwin did a pretty good job of explaining it. So this is where the discussion ends, because I cannot keep asking the same question over and over, only to get more theories and speculations. Do I discount what you are trying to say, not in the slightest. I do disagree however your tenacity to hold these things as fact. Because if they were so, then answer the question. But don't fret, avoidance of the things one cannot explain is quite common, hell its the basis of most belief systems. Now I am off to train my dog to write poetry, because apparently it is possible

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 10:09:03 AM   
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ONe thing that puzzles me as well, if we have all this nature and everything, how come I got no spikes on my penis, I could use the fuck outta those, bruddah?   I got warts is all.  And some pustules.

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 10:21:43 AM   
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ONe thing that puzzles me as well, if we have all this nature and everything, how come I got no spikes on my penis, I could use the fuck outta those, bruddah?   I got warts is all.  And some pustules.



Well, they do have those novelty condoms, or the anti-rape sheath worn inside out. And worse case, you can always use super-glue

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 10:22:44 AM   
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do they have them with chicken heads or vulture heads?

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 10:25:37 AM   
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This is the 21st century, just make it yourself. Can even ask Tom Savini to make the head fully articulated

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 12:57:46 PM   
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Why haven't mice, cats, dogs, hell even chimpanzees developed on a level equal to that of a human?
The human brain is considerably more advanced than that of a chimp. They can be taught some very basic sign language, but they are ultimately extremely limited in their communication compared with humans.

I imagine you could also get situations where a brain that is similar in terms of raw power could be hooked up differently or lack certain structures, meaning that the animal in question might have a broad range of abilities but would lack the capacity for speech.

Let's take, for example, Broca's Area and Wernicke's Area: those two structures in the brain are specifically responsible for speech. They don't do anything else, and no other part of the brain is capable of performing the same job, no matter how big or advanced it might be. Trying to use your frontal lobe for the comprehension of the meaning of a word, for example, would be like trying to pick your nose with your dick: it just doesn't work.

This doesn't mean that the brain is always so inflexible. For example, if someone were to cross the wires between your visual and auditory processing centers at birth, you would hardly know the difference. They are almost interchangeable. Of course, that's part of why some people get this thing called "synaesthesia," where they see colors when they hear a sound.

It's some pretty cool stuff, actually. That's not even getting into myelinated v. unmyelinated axons and stuff like that.

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You keep saying that the brain of a rat is the same as a human,
It does work in approximately the same way, yes. Like I said, though, you have nuances like the influence of corticosterone on rodent behavior. Corticosterone doesn't do jack shit in humans. There are notable differences between the brains of humans and rodents, but they are essentially commensurate with one another in the basic principles on which they operate.

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then according to that the rat should also evolve as we do.
Nonsense. The human brain is much more sophisticated.

This is getting repetitious.

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 1:05:55 PM   
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http://www.amazon.com/Alex-Me-Scientist-Discovered-Intelligence--/dp/0061673986/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1351022694&sr=8-1&keywords=remembering+alex

That might put the lie to alot of humans are more advanced brains.

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 2:04:02 PM   
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Why haven't mice, cats, dogs, hell even chimpanzees developed on a level equal to that of a human?
The human brain is considerably more advanced than that of a chimp. They can be taught some very basic sign language, but they are ultimately extremely limited in their communication compared with humans.

I imagine you could also get situations where a brain that is similar in terms of raw power could be hooked up differently or lack certain structures, meaning that the animal in question might have a broad range of abilities but would lack the capacity for speech.

Let's take, for example, Broca's Area and Wernicke's Area: those two structures in the brain are specifically responsible for speech. They don't do anything else, and no other part of the brain is capable of performing the same job, no matter how big or advanced it might be. Trying to use your frontal lobe for the comprehension of the meaning of a word, for example, would be like trying to pick your nose with your dick: it just doesn't work.

This doesn't mean that the brain is always so inflexible. For example, if someone were to cross the wires between your visual and auditory processing centers at birth, you would hardly know the difference. They are almost interchangeable. Of course, that's part of why some people get this thing called "synaesthesia," where they see colors when they hear a sound.

It's some pretty cool stuff, actually. That's not even getting into myelinated v. unmyelinated axons and stuff like that.

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You keep saying that the brain of a rat is the same as a human,
It does work in approximately the same way, yes. Like I said, though, you have nuances like the influence of corticosterone on rodent behavior. Corticosterone doesn't do jack shit in humans. There are notable differences between the brains of humans and rodents, but they are essentially commensurate with one another in the basic principles on which they operate.

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then according to that the rat should also evolve as we do.
Nonsense. The human brain is much more sophisticated.

This is getting repetitious.



No offense, but can you answer a question without all the big scientific words? Every post you seem to revel in the complex terminology of brain structures. Like the fancy latin terms are a better argument. And even after all that you still cannot explain, biologically, why a cat doesn't speak. I am sure most people here have no clue what Broca's area is, and it quite frankly isn't germane to this conversation (see, I can do it too). I can however explain why cats don't talk, very easily. Because they didn't evolve to.

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RE: BDSM in nature - Penis Spikes - 10/23/2012 2:31:52 PM   
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I am sure most people here have no clue what Broca's area is, and it quite frankly isn't germane to this conversation (see, I can do it too).
Broca's area is, putting it very crudely and roughly, a structure in the temporal lobe that handles the syntax of language. Without it, you could not produce or comprehend structured speech at all. It's extremely important in a conversation about the evolution of human speech.

Cats do, as far as I know, have a Broca's area, but it's probably not anywhere near as advanced as that of a human being. They are light-years behind us there.

As for whether Broca's area serves some other purpose in most non-human animals, I don't know. It plays an important role in imitation learning, and I would not be surprised if this fact played a role in the fact that Broca's area was eventually repurposed for producing the syntax in human speech.

Essentially, Broca's area has the unique capability of processing hierarchially organized sequential behavior. It is a truly unique organ. As far as I know, no other part of our brain could do its job.

And yes, cats have one. It's not anywhere near as sophisticated as that of a human being, but it does generally the same thing. Because it's so primitive, though, don't expect them to stand up anytime soon and recite the Iliad in perfect, unaccented Greek.

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