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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 6:19:37 AM   
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I'd met hilary in 1989. I spent 3 hours of having a conversation with her and 3 other women over a long lunch.She has a fishy handshake, and I recall that she liked honey mustard ( maybe a little too much!) She is pleasant but plastic, which is a necessity in this age.

To illustrate a point, you were not there for that conversation.
so if you try to tell me what was said I will not believe you especially if I know the truth.

unless you were actually there, I will not take you as a source.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 6:28:58 AM   
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I never claimed to be there... please show me anything that even resembles me saying that
how ridiculous is it that because I wasnt "there" you cant accept a "source"
Might as well shut up the whole political forum,
Try being relevant... at least once...

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 7:01:18 AM   
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no actually I'm asking whether or not you were there personally, because I can't imagine that you were there.


Try reading the link she provided.

If thats too much, look at the photo included.


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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 11:25:38 AM   
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Ask the families of the 4 men murdered in Benghazi if it's over, kaput!!

How insensitive you lefties are to the murder of innocent people!! What a blind eye you turn to the undeniable fact that the Obama lied, and continues to lie!!! Shameful!!

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 11:27:48 AM   
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Fox Military Analyst Counters Rest Of Network, Denounces "Second Guessing" On Benghazi Attack Response
Former NATO Ambassador Adds: "Keep Politics Out Of This"
http://mediamatters.org/video/2012/10/25/fox-military-analyst-counters-rest-of-network-d/190932#disqus_thread

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 11:30:42 AM   
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Ask the families of over 600 men murdered in the two embassy attacks and the military compound attack in Beirut under St. Wrinklemeat.

Uh, what should we ask them?   Did they think that diplomats are all about the tuxes and the fois gras, and are not under fire as soldiers in this world?

Might be the first embassy attack for you, but this is old hat under republicans.

The murder of innocent people in Iraq, by W and the neo-cons, is still getting the blind eye from rightwingers.  

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 11:38:20 AM   
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2002: U.S. Consulate In Karachi, Pakistan, Attacked; 10 Killed, 51 Injured. From a June 15, 2002, Chicago Tribune article:

Police cordoned off a large area around the U.S. Consulate late Friday and began combing through the carnage and debris for clues after a car explosion killed at least 10 people, injured 51 others and left Pakistan's largest city bleeding from yet another terrorist atrocity.

No Americans were among the dead, and only six of the injured were inside the consulate compound at the time of the blast Friday morning. One Pakistani police officer on guard outside the building was among the dead, but many of those killed were pedestrians or motorists in the area at the time of the explosion.

The U.S. Embassy in Islamabad reported that five Pakistani consular employees and a Marine guard were slightly wounded by flying debris.

Suspicion for the attack immediately fell on Islamic militants known to be active in Karachi. [Chicago Tribune, 6/15/02, via Nexis]

2004: U.S. Embassy Bombed In Uzbekistan. From a July 31, 2004, Los Angeles Times article:

Suicide bombers on Friday struck the U.S. and Israeli embassies in Uzbekistan, killing two local guards and injuring at least nine others in the second wave of attacks this year against a key U.S. ally during the war in Afghanistan.

The prosecutor general's office also was hit in the coordinated afternoon attacks in the capital city of Tashkent. It sustained more damage than either of the embassies, where guards prevented bombers from entering.

The attacks came as 15 Muslim militants linked to the Al Qaeda terrorist network went on trial in a series of bombings and other assaults in March that killed 47 people.

The explosions Friday caused relatively little physical damage but rattled a country in which the U.S. has maintained an air base crucial to the battle against Islamic militants in neighboring Afghanistan. [Los Angeles Times, 7/31/04, via Nexis]

2004: Gunmen Stormed U.S. Consulate In Saudi Arabia. From a December 6, 2004, New York Times article:

A group of attackers stormed the American Consulate in the Saudi Arabian city of Jidda today, using explosives at the gates to breach the outer wall and enter the compound, the Saudi Interior Ministry said in a statement. At least eight people were killed in the incident, in which guards and Saudi security forces confronted the group, according to the ministry and news agencies.

Three of the attackers were killed. Five non-American employees were killed, an American embassy spokesman, Carol Kalin, told Reuters. She declined to provide the nationality of those killed, but said they were members of the consulate staff.

Reuters reported that Saudi security officials said four of their men also died in the incident, which would bring the death toll to 12. [The New York Times, 12/6/04]

2006: Armed Men Attacked U.S. Embassy In Syria. From a September 13, 2006, Washington Post article:

Four armed men attacked the U.S. Embassy on Tuesday, killing one Syrian security guard and wounding several people in what authorities said was an attempt by Islamic guerrillas to storm the diplomatic compound.

Just after 10 a.m., gunmen yelling " Allahu akbar " -- "God is great" -- opened fire on the Syrian security officers who guard the outside of the embassy in Damascus's Rawda district, witnesses said. The attackers threw grenades at the compound, according to witnesses, and shot at the guards with assault rifles during the 15- to 20-minute clash, which left three of the gunmen dead and the fourth reportedly wounded. [The Washington Post, 9/13/06]

2007: Grenade Launched Into U.S. Embassy In Athens. From The New York Times:

An antitank grenade was fired into the heavily fortified American Embassy here just before dawn today. The building was empty, but the attack underscored deep anti-American sentiment here and revived fears of a new round of homegrown terror.

Greek officials said they doubted the attack was the work of foreign or Islamic terrorists, but rather that of regrouped extreme leftists aiming at a specific, symbolic target: a huge American seal, of a double-headed eagle against a blue background, affixed to the front of the boxy, modern embassy near downtown. [The New York Times, 1/12/07]

2008: Rioters Set Fire To U.S. Embassy In Serbia. From The New York Times:

Demonstrators attacked the U.S. Embassy here and set part of it ablaze Thursday as tens of thousands of angry Serbs took to the streets of Belgrade to protest Kosovo's declaration of independence.

Witnesses said that at least 300 rioters broke into the embassy and torched some of its rooms. One protester was able to rip the American flag from the facade of the building. An estimated 1,000 demonstrators cheered as the vandals, some wearing masks to conceal their faces, jumped onto the building's balcony waving a Serbian flag and chanting "Serbia, Serbia!" the witnesses said. A convoy of police officers firing tear gas was able to disperse the crowd. [The New York Times, 2/21/08]

2008: Ten People Killed In Bombings At U.S. Embassy In Yemen. From The New York Times:

Militants disguised as soldiers detonated two car bombs outside the United States Embassy compound in Sana, Yemen, on Wednesday morning, killing 16 people, including 6 of the attackers, Yemeni officials said.

No American officials or embassy employees were killed or wounded, embassy officials said. Six of the dead were Yemeni guards at the compound entrance, and the other four killed were civilians waiting to be allowed in.

It was the deadliest and most ambitious attack in years in Yemen, a poor south Arabian country of 23 million people where militants aligned with Al Qaeda have carried out a number of recent bombings. [The New York Times, 9/17/08]


Of course, thats history and .....cant mention Bushes "successes" in the ME can we.


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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 12:35:43 PM   
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Google "Watergate Scandal" the media was all over it for 2 years!!

No one died as a result of Watergate!!! Difference here is during the Watergate scandal the media dug it up and continued until the Republican POTUS resigned. Now the Benghazi scandal is being covered by the media because we now have a Democrat President. Now THAT is political!!!! Shamefully political.

A US Ambassador and 3 other Americans were murdered serving our country and the POTUS lied!!! Continues to lie!!! This has nothing to do with politics, this is undeniable fact.

I reject that just because there's an election in 8 days anything about this is about politics. That's a left wing cover talking point, just like critiquing Obama is racist because he's black. He's also 1/2 white too. Nothing racist about it. Policy is at issue.

If what is being uncovered is true, Obama should be impeached and tried for treason.

However if you think Obama should be given more time, I wholeheartedly agree...
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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 12:38:06 PM   
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Google "Watergate Scandal" the media was all over it for 2 years!!

No one died as a result of Watergate!!! Difference here is during the Watergate scandal the media dug it up and continued until the Republican POTUS resigned. Now the Benghazi scandal is being covered by the media because we now have a Democrat President. Now THAT is political!!!! Shamefully political.

So there's been nothing about this in any of the media because that vast liberal conspiracy is keeping it nice and quiet?
Pity nobody gave Rupert Murdoch that memo, isn't it?

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 12:38:13 PM   
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Reagan didnt resign when he had three attacks he couldnt handle in Beirut.

W didn't resign when he fucked up the economy and sent fellows to die in Iraq for no reason.

I do not assume you have some non-hysterical, non blowholing  point here.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 12:38:49 PM   
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it certainly is deniable

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 12:40:49 PM   
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Ask the families of the 4 men murdered in Benghazi if it's over, kaput!!

How insensitive you lefties are to the murder of innocent people!! What a blind eye you turn to the undeniable fact that the Obama lied, and continues to lie!!! Shameful!!



Whats shameful is your ignorance of what Obama actually said.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 1:18:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Toysinbabeland

I'd met hilary in 1989. I spent 3 hours of having a conversation with her and 3 other women over a long lunch.She has a fishy handshake, and I recall that she liked honey mustard ( maybe a little too much!) She is pleasant but plastic, which is a necessity in this age.

To illustrate a point, you were not there for that conversation.
so if you try to tell me what was said I will not believe you especially if I know the truth.

unless you were actually there, I will not take you as a source.


So, in 1989, you lived in Arkansas?

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/29/2012 3:30:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: 6969

Google "Watergate Scandal" the media was all over it for 2 years!!

No one died as a result of Watergate!!! Difference here is during the Watergate scandal the media dug it up and continued until the Republican POTUS resigned. Now the Benghazi scandal is being covered by the media because we now have a Democrat President. Now THAT is political!!!! Shamefully political.

A US Ambassador and 3 other Americans were murdered serving our country and the POTUS lied!!! Continues to lie!!! This has nothing to do with politics, this is undeniable fact.

I reject that just because there's an election in 8 days anything about this is about politics. That's a left wing cover talking point, just like critiquing Obama is racist because he's black. He's also 1/2 white too. Nothing racist about it. Policy is at issue.

If what is being uncovered is true, Obama should be impeached and tried for treason.

However if you think Obama should be given more time, I wholeheartedly agree...
25 to life would be about right!


Well...no one died in Monica-gate


But quite a few died in Iraq-gate.....


Over 4 thousand 5 hundred....


You`re way behind in your grim,morbid counting.....

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/30/2012 9:33:31 AM   
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The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.

General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.



For those who have never been in the military and you obviously have not, let me give you a "heads up".
Discipline is what distinguishes the military from a mob of thugs. Failure to obey a lawful order from your superiors is a court martial offense. That it took 30 seconds to a minute for the exec to relieve this treasonous moron of his command shows how lax the army is. If this had been a branch of the military where discipline means something it would have been instantanious.


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edit: The Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.

Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette is being sent back to the USS John C. Stennis' home port at Bremerton, Wash., in what the Navy called a temporary reassignment. The Navy said he is not formally relieved of his command of the Stennis strike group but will be replaced by Rear Adm. Troy M. Shoemaker, who will assume command until the investigation is completed.

It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment.


Interesting.



What is interesting is your belief that the u.s. military is a bunch of gunslingers who do as they choose with no supervision

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/30/2012 12:19:23 PM   
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Ask the families of the 4 men murdered in Benghazi if it's over, kaput!!

How insensitive you lefties are to the murder of innocent people!! What a blind eye you turn to the undeniable fact that the Obama lied, and continues to lie!!! Shameful!!



Whats shameful is your ignorance of what Obama actually said.


Obama said at the debate that he DID mention terrorism in his Rose garden speech. (Obama was talking about the original 9/11 terrorism but, it gave him some temporary wiggle room.) IF in the Rose Garden speech, Obama asserts he was talking about the benghazi attack being a terrorist attack, why did he go on numerous TV shows DAYS LATER saying it was a mob attack because of that Video? Did he flat forget what he said in the Rose Garden? Then Obama and Joe the clown claim they knew NOTHING. And it looks like the great protector of women has no problem laying the blame on Hillary and her State Department. We now know they were watching the attack in real time in the White House situation room!

Incidents involving the possible death of an Ambassador would be handled at the HIGHEST levels. Decisions made by a General grade officer or higher government official. If a General gave an order and it was NOT followed, he would know WHO, WHEN, WHERE and WHY withing 10 MINUTES of his inquiry. Yet that lying scum Obama keeps his phony "we're investigating." bullshit for days now. Does Obama think the general public is as dumb as his Liberal admiration society?

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/30/2012 12:36:03 PM   
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I guess it's fair to say Obama lied and four American's, his administration, and the hopes of American progressives died.

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/30/2012 12:38:43 PM   
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I guess it's fair to say Obama lied and four American's, his administration, and the hopes of American progressives died.

7 days Tick tock... Now with sound effects

Sooo, would you say that Dubya was 1000+ times worse?

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RE: Dear Leader's Pack of Lies on Benghazi - 10/30/2012 12:43:50 PM   
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So, you dont like the way he forms sentences.   He didn't use the word terrorism in a sentence to your satisfaction, which of course by its very usage would change the outcome.

Uh, you may not be aware of this as an armchair general, but when Generals decide to act in their own locale and what they feel is within their mission,  they neither ring up the whitehouse, the state department, the Joint Chiefs or their bosses for advice.

Incedents involving the death of an Ambassador are handled at the highest levels, but then of course the fucker is dead.  Until that actual expiration, it is likely handled at much lower levels than the Prez.

 

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