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stef -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/13/2012 2:47:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia

not with me...not in ANY lifetime...'nuff said

Oh good god, not this crap again. Come on Mikey, isn't it time to change that record?




LaTigresse -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/13/2012 2:52:03 PM)

One day he will realize that it is 2012, almost 2013, and that it is safe to come out of that closet.




stef -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/13/2012 2:53:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

One day he will realize that it is 2012, almost 2013, and that it is safe to come out of that closet.

You know what they say; he who doth protest the loudest often hath breath that reeks of cock.




Ninebelowzero -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/13/2012 3:00:47 PM)

Lolz Stef.

Never say never is all I'm saying to this.




mikeyOfGeorgia -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/13/2012 4:06:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

One day he will realize that it is 2012, almost 2013, and that it is safe to come out of that closet.


only when i'm the only male on the planet...LOL




justacleaner -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/13/2012 4:32:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farquad

Hi there,

I consider myself straight. I've never had a relationship with a guy and can't imaging doing so. But thats the emotional side.

Physically, I do see guys. More than girls in fact, but thats more about them being easier to find than because of preference :-) Quite often in a drunken half an hour on slaveboy or gaydar I can find a local sub to come round and service me. But I only use their mouths, so whats between their legs doesn't matter too much. I get them to agree beforehand that they will show up, deepthroat me, rim me, swallow my load and leave. And the right kind of sub is more than happy to do so :-)

I've noticed quite a few profiles here (dom and sub) that are looking for either gender. My question is, when its a purely physical encounter, is it common for guys or girls who are straight _in real life_ so to speak to use or be used by the other gender. And if so, is it a compromise, or a taboo thing?

Discuss... :-)


Reading your post made me pause for thought because it sort of goes right to the heart of D/s and bdsm relationships. Everyone is looking for their own perfect partner. Mine is different to yours, and yours different to others. I'm straight and don't find other men in the least bit appealing. However I still have fantasies where I am forced into bi sexual acts that in real life I would scream and run away from.
However in all these fantasies I am being forced by a woman or very sexy TV, so does that make any difference.

It's a difficult question, but on the whole I'd say straight men wouldn't have sex with another man.




LaTigresse -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/14/2012 3:36:12 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mikeyOfGeorgia


only when i'm the only male on the planet...LOL



Even I, shudder at that visualization.........and I am nearly fearless.




chatterbox24 -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/14/2012 9:34:02 AM)

I will second the GOOD GOD.

what if you and Brad Pitt were stranded for eternity on an island? What if the world were just men?
What if men had vaginas?

I think my blood sugar is low, time to eat.




LaTigresse -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/14/2012 12:22:04 PM)

Sometimes the sadist in me wishes I had the money to find a really gorgeous crossing dressing male prostitute to play a trick on some guys.........and provide good security that would step in when said guys started freaking the fuck out.




UnholyBear -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/14/2012 9:12:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: farquad

Hi there,

I consider myself straight. I've never had a relationship with a guy and can't imaging doing so. But thats the emotional side.

Physically, I do see guys. More than girls in fact, but thats more about them being easier to find than because of preference :-) Quite often in a drunken half an hour on slaveboy or gaydar I can find a local sub to come round and service me. But I only use their mouths, so whats between their legs doesn't matter too much. I get them to agree beforehand that they will show up, deepthroat me, rim me, swallow my load and leave. And the right kind of sub is more than happy to do so :-)

I've noticed quite a few profiles here (dom and sub) that are looking for either gender. My question is, when its a purely physical encounter, is it common for guys or girls who are straight _in real life_ so to speak to use or be used by the other gender. And if so, is it a compromise, or a taboo thing?

Discuss... :-)



From what I've seen from a large group of *straight* men who go cruising for dick are often so deep in the closet that hell would have to freeze over before they admit to themselves they are attracted to men. The two most common reasons they have are: " a mouth is just a mouth no matter who owns it." or " I was under the influence of alcohol."

Funny thing is, a man admitting he is attracted to other men is far more acceptable now then it was 20 years ago. So as for it being taboo, I don't think so.




LadyPact -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/15/2012 10:18:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: UnholyBear
From what I've seen from a large group of *straight* men who go cruising for dick are often so deep in the closet that hell would have to freeze over before they admit to themselves they are attracted to men. The two most common reasons they have are: " a mouth is just a mouth no matter who owns it." or " I was under the influence of alcohol."

Funny thing is, a man admitting he is attracted to other men is far more acceptable now then it was 20 years ago. So as for it being taboo, I don't think so.
Hiya, Bear!

We were literally just sitting here talking about this. I think in some circles it's more acceptable for a male to be attracted to another male or openly say that he is bi. I think we as a society haven't really caught up in equality between the genders on it. For a woman to be bi, I hardly think anyone bats an eyelash. I don't think we're close to that when a male is bi. Between the reaction from others and the prejudices that many males are brought up with themselves makes that difference and that's why you see an imbalance.

We might be getting there, but I don't think we've quite reached the goal yet.





UnholyBear -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (11/15/2012 11:15:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: UnholyBear
From what I've seen from a large group of *straight* men who go cruising for dick are often so deep in the closet that hell would have to freeze over before they admit to themselves they are attracted to men. The two most common reasons they have are: " a mouth is just a mouth no matter who owns it." or " I was under the influence of alcohol."

Funny thing is, a man admitting he is attracted to other men is far more acceptable now then it was 20 years ago. So as for it being taboo, I don't think so.
Hiya, Bear!

We were literally just sitting here talking about this. I think in some circles it's more acceptable for a male to be attracted to another male or openly say that he is bi. I think we as a society haven't really caught up in equality between the genders on it. For a woman to be bi, I hardly think anyone bats an eyelash. I don't think we're close to that when a male is bi. Between the reaction from others and the prejudices that many males are brought up with themselves makes that difference and that's why you see an imbalance.

We might be getting there, but I don't think we've quite reached the goal yet.





Heya Lady P.

Yes I do agree that there is still a huge imbalance though in many areas it is less so. Even after all these years, I still am unable to understand why some men state that unless they are "forced" they would never under any circumstances engage in any sort of a sexual encounter with another man? To me that comes across as an excuse mainly as even in a strict D/s dynamic between a male sub and female dominant, the male sub still retains the ability to oppose his dominant. It's not a situation where she is holding a loaded gun to his head and saying, "either you do this or else." Just seems that the more sexually open minded we become as people, the more complicated we make human sexuality to be.




MistressZaraUK -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 7:14:10 AM)

Think I would have to list my sexuality as 'Greedy' :-)

Zara




TieMeInKnottss -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 8:13:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: xLaChienne

I find it to be much more common with men than I do with women, in general.

That has much to do with the gender divide.

Women, generally, will wait to find what they seek and be content alone (or at least more content than settling) and not consider anyone outside of whatever parameters they have set.

Men, generally, will take whatever is around while seeking. Which is fine, if they remain upfront about it all.

What I've noticed is a large amount of socially inept men who are desperate for kink encounters will get so discouraged seeking for what they want that they will settle for anything at all, as long as it feeds their fetish. Even someone of the same sex. I see it quite a bit with sub men who want their fetish and don't care who gives it to them, which is why they are so frequently rebuffed by women.

So is it common? No. Not so much.

Is it common among those that are desperate or just plain tired of looking for what they really want and being consistently rejected? Yes.





Well now I have something new to add to my requirements. I have always had "...straight heterosexual men who have never been sexually confused..." Now I must add "and never been so desperate for sexual contact that they have voluntarily serviced by another male..."

My question, and call me naive, if you are THAT desperate...why not just pay for it? And what about taking care of your own needs? For me (& I KNOW the argument that, as a woman, I can ALWAYS find no strings sex....which BTW is not been my experience...I have had more frustrating, "God I want to get laid & no guy will agree" nights than I can count or remember) no matter how desperate, I have never considered finding another woman. Why? Because, I am not sexually aroused by women. Think of it this way...you claim you are so desperate you will use a man but, if the only available males were under 18 or over 80 or who wanted to do you physical harm (like you are an enemy POW held in solitary fighting for your life) would you still be physically aroused? Psychologically, I can't get excited & that leads to the required physical responses not happening.




lthrpup -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 12:32:21 PM)

What about straight guys who will engage in kinky, intimate D/s or SM play with another guy without engaging in sex? Either because he likes hyper-masculine play or is desperate and will substitute a little M/m encounter as a booby prize when he is without a partner with boobies?




TieMeInKnottss -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 12:50:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lthrpup

What about straight guys who will engage in kinky, intimate D/s or SM play with another guy without engaging in sex? Either because he likes hyper-masculine play or is desperate and will substitute a little M/m encounter as a booby prize when he is without a partner with boobies?



This is where I get in trouble because I have NO IDEA what you are talking about!




PeonForHer -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 1:32:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lthrpup

What about straight guys who will engage in kinky, intimate D/s or SM play with another guy without engaging in sex? Either because he likes hyper-masculine play or is desperate and will substitute a little M/m encounter as a booby prize when he is without a partner with boobies?



I've been a bit like that myself at times. I think the correct term for it is 'big girl's blouse wearing, back-door-banditing, shirtlifting, twanging, nancy-boy botty-bonker', lthrpup.
..............


ETA: Several US friends have just cmailed to say that the aforementioned phrase, translated from UK to North American English, is 'Canadian'.




DarkSteven -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 1:35:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss


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ORIGINAL: lthrpup

What about straight guys who will engage in kinky, intimate D/s or SM play with another guy without engaging in sex? Either because he likes hyper-masculine play or is desperate and will substitute a little M/m encounter as a booby prize when he is without a partner with boobies?



This is where I get in trouble because I have NO IDEA what you are talking about!


lthrpup is saying that:

1. OP claims to be straight.
2. The only reason a straight man would engage in play with another man is either he really secretly likes it, or else he'll play with anybody/anything and plays with men when he can't find a woman.




darkenchantments -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 2:50:32 PM)

I'm reminded of the South Park episode, where they come up with the joke:

Question: 'Do you like fish-sticks?' (You may have to think about it; it works best auditorily, rather than written down........)
Answer: 'Yes'.
Reply: 'So you're a gay fish'!

And does that one lead to trouble!!




UnholyBear -> RE: Sexuality - straight or bi? (12/9/2012 3:26:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: TieMeInKnottss


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ORIGINAL: lthrpup

What about straight guys who will engage in kinky, intimate D/s or SM play with another guy without engaging in sex? Either because he likes hyper-masculine play or is desperate and will substitute a little M/m encounter as a booby prize when he is without a partner with boobies?



This is where I get in trouble because I have NO IDEA what you are talking about!


lthrpup is saying that:

1. OP claims to be straight.
2. The only reason a straight man would engage in play with another man is either he really secretly likes it, or else he'll play with anybody/anything and plays with men when he can't find a woman.



Not entirely true DarkSteven.




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