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Firearm homicides
Number of deaths: 11,493
Deaths per 100,000 population: 3.7

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS

You are a very generous person to have not pulled the trigger, and he is a VERY lucky asshole.

Funny you should say that. Several of the officers told me I should have, and they wished I had.

I need to add something at this point. In Colorado, where Duskypearls and I both live, there is a law on the books called the Make My Day law. If a resident shoots and kills an intruder on their property who they have reason to believe could injure or kill them, no crime has been committed. In Dusky's case, she would not even have been charged or been subject to a trial.

Good job, kiddo, and I'm glad you had such presence of mind.

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I am glad for Dusky but concerned about the 32,000 deaths and twice that of injuries that happen each year.

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

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ORIGINAL: MAINEiacMISTRESS

You are a very generous person to have not pulled the trigger, and he is a VERY lucky asshole.

Funny you should say that. Several of the officers told me I should have, and they wished I had.

I need to add something at this point. In Colorado, where Duskypearls and I both live, there is a law on the books called the Make My Day law. If a resident shoots and kills an intruder on their property who they have reason to believe could injure or kill them, no crime has been committed. In Dusky's case, she would not even have been charged or been subject to a trial.

Good job, kiddo, and I'm glad you had such presence of mind.

Wow....thanks for that information Steven [&:]

Kudos to you Duskypearls....Whilst I know I have certain moments where I would be able to react as you did....I doubt I would have done it in that situation....I guess I would have tried to leave the place secretly and called the police with stand
ing outside of the house (though of course depends on if that is possible with where you were at that moment etc.).
Another option could have been for me to face him naked....I mean...that should scare him shitless and make him run to the hills faster than his shadow....

Seriously....respect to you DP and I am glad to hear you are ok. On the gun issue I am against them and was glad when parents found and got rid off the gun my grandpa owned up to his death (in his case, when he got that one in, about 10 years before his death, we always feared he might once accidentially shoot granny with his alcohol issues he had....and we simply have different gun laws in Germany as you do have over there....though I am happy with ours).

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I am glad for Dusky but concerned about the 32,000 deaths and twice that of injuries that happen each year.

I am not. It is called natural selection and it is good for the gene pool.

It would help if females would not get themselves fertilized by males that have a lot of animal alleles in their genome.

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ORIGINAL: JanahX

Wow - Dusky... first off I am so glad that you are okay.

Second off - If that would have been me in your position, that man would have been dead. I would have shot him.

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~ FR ~

Some people have mentioned a preference for a shotgun. I would consider maneuverability to be an issue with a long gun inside the house. However, Tromix Lead Delivery Systems has some very nice Saiga mods. For example, this 8" barrel folding-stock 12ga:

[image]http://tromix.com/images/S17-8inchLrg3wg.gif[/image]

Another poster expressed a preference for a revolver, and Taurus has a model that will fire either .45 LC or .410 shotgun shells:

[image]http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/4510PLY-SS2_01.jpg[/image]

Personally I like a 1911, but that's me. For good measure, here's another cat story.

When I lived on the 6th floor of a walk-up, a friend of mine realized he'd left something behind just as we hit the landing of the first floor. Being no fool I gave him my keys, wished him well, and sat down on the stoop to wait. It was a long wait, and it got to be too long. Finally I headed back up the stairs to see what the fuck.

As I topped the 6th floor landing, the first thing I noticed was that my apartment door was wide open. Just as I was edging around for a look, I heard a blood-curdling growl. My friend was standing a few feet inside, frozen stiff and sweating bullets, afraid to move, said attitude being heartily encouraged by a crouching 18-pound Maine Coon Cat with it's hair standing up and its fangs bared.

Smoke got a treat, and my friend declined ever to visit me again as long as he lived.

K.

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I've always been very much in favor of gun control, I use two hands whenever possible.

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Congrats Dusky!!

Your amazement at the clearness of your thinking doesn't surprise me at all. If we all listened to our gut more often, I think we'd all be safer.

Do you normally carry when you investigate for animals thru the pet door? Your intuition flew at warp speed and you KNEW.

ETA: I bet it took a loooooooooong time to come down from that adrenaline rush!!

That is the point, hlen, from previous experiences, my mind concluded it must be an animal, and no, I have NEVER felt called to take my gun with me when suspecting/knowing it was an animal. It is fascinating to me that in spite of what my mind thought, my intuition protected me by making my body pick up, cock (before leaving my bed), and point the gun into the room before even peeking around the corner. Thank Heaven's for that intuition! I think it deserves a cookie or two.

Oddly enough, it did not take long to come down from the rush at all, and I was pleasantly surprised by that.

Believe me, everyone, I know just how lucky I was. I had no way of knowing he would back down from our Mexican Standoff. Had he come to burgle, rape, torture or kill, he might not have. His goal was to hide from, and evade, police, who were two houses away, tho' I did not know that at the time. At most, the entire incident lasted maybe 10 seconds at most, but talk about the Wild Wild West!

I hope, if I'm ever put into a similar situation, I will shoot first and ask questions later. Why I didn't do it this time, I do not know. Was it inexperience, was it intuition, was it something else? I dunno, I just feel awfully damned lucky, and know I was being looked after and protected. It could have gone really bad. Yep, I'm a lucky Buckarette, alright!

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Truth be told, my complete and devoted attention was on his gun, and what he was or wasn't going to do with it. I only got a vague, overall impression of what he physically looked like. I never actually looked at his face. I do know he had a light colored, woolish-like, winter hat on his head that only came down as far as about mid-forehead. The police later confirmed that fact when they got reports of a fellow w/that kind of hat running through the neighborhood.

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I really wasn't given a choice, Phoenix. By the time my gun got pointed into the room and the light switch turned on, and saw it was a human and not an animal, I was all of two feet and one half feet away from him and his gun. We were both shocked to see each other with guns. You want to talk about us both being surprised?! There was no where to go without putting myself at greater risk. Face to face, at least, that close up, and by not turning my back to him and running, I'd have a better chance of reading him and his trigger finger. The position I was put in almost guaranteed a Mexican Standoff or a shootout. I am glad it was the former, and not the latter.

Actually, when you think about it, it was all pretty damned funny! I mean, what are the odds?!

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So. If there is a Zombie Apocalypse we all meet at Duskys' Ranch?

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Congrats Dusky!!

Your amazement at the clearness of your thinking doesn't surprise me at all. If we all listened to our gut more often, I think we'd all be safer.

Do you normally carry when you investigate for animals thru the pet door? Your intuition flew at warp speed and you KNEW.

ETA: I bet it took a loooooooooong time to come down from that adrenaline rush!!

That is the point, hlen, from previous experiences, my mind concluded it must be an animal, and no, I have NEVER felt called to take my gun with me when suspecting/knowing it was an animal. It is fascinating to me that in spite of what my mind thought, my intuition protected me by making my body pick up, cock (before leaving my bed), and point the gun into the room before even peeking around the corner. Thank Heaven's for that intuition! I think it deserves a cookie or two.

Oddly enough, it did not take long to come down from the rush at all, and I was pleasantly surprised by that.

Believe me, everyone, I know just how lucky I was. I had no way of knowing he would back down from our Mexican Standoff. Had he come to burgle, rape, torture or kill, he might not have. His goal was to hide from, and evade, police, who were two houses away, tho' I did not know that at the time. At most, the entire incident lasted maybe 10 seconds at most, but talk about the Wild Wild West!

I hope, if I'm ever put into a similar situation, I will shoot first and ask questions later. Why I didn't do it this time, I do not know. Was it inexperience, was it intuition, was it something else? I dunno, I just feel awfully damned lucky, and know I was being looked after and protected. It could have gone really bad. Yep, I'm a lucky Buckarette, alright!

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Truth be told, my complete and devoted attention was on his gun, and what he was or wasn't going to do with it. I only got a vague, overall impression of what he physically looked like. I never actually looked at his face. I do know he had a light colored, woolish-like, winter hat on his head that only came down as far as about mid-forehead. The police later confirmed that fact when they got reports of a fellow w/that kind of hat running through the neighborhood.

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I really wasn't given a choice, Phoenix. By the time my gun got pointed into the room and the light switch turned on, and saw it was a human and not an animal, I was all of two feet and one half feet away from him and his gun. We were both shocked to see each other with guns. You want to talk about us both being surprised?! There was no where to go without putting myself at greater risk. Face to face, at least, that close up, and by not turning my back to him and running, I'd have a better chance of reading him and his trigger finger. The position I was put in almost guaranteed a Mexican Standoff or a shootout. I am glad it was the former, and not the latter.

Actually, when you think about it, it was all pretty damned funny! I mean, what are the odds?!

It has gradually come clear that Duskypearls is not a lady to take for granted. It is particularly emphasized on this thread. An excellent demonstration of instinct and ability and also that a gun need not be fired until it actually does need to be fired.

So. If there is a Zombie Apocalypse we all meet at Duskys' Ranch?

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So. If there is a Zombie Apocalypse we all meet at Duskys' Ranch?

That strikes me as the wrong side of the Atlantic for some of us.

Otherwise not a bad idea, methinks.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

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~ FR ~

Some people have mentioned a preference for a shotgun. I would consider maneuverability to be an issue with a long gun inside the house. However, Tromix Lead Delivery Systems has some very nice Saiga mods. For example, this 8" barrel folding-stock 12ga:

[image]http://tromix.com/images/S17-8inchLrg3wg.gif[/image]

Another poster expressed a preference for a revolver, and Taurus has a model that will fire either .45 LC or .410 shotgun shells:

[image]http://www.taurususa.com/images/imagesMain/4510PLY-SS2_01.jpg[/image]

Personally I like a 1911, but that's me. For good measure, here's another cat story.

When I lived on the 6th floor of a walk-up, a friend of mine realized he'd left something behind just as we hit the landing of the first floor. Being no fool I gave him my keys, wished him well, and sat down on the stoop to wait. It was a long wait, and it got to be too long. Finally I headed back up the stairs to see what the fuck.

As I topped the 6th floor landing, the first thing I noticed was that my apartment door was wide open. Just as I was edging around for a look, I heard a blood-curdling growl. My friend was standing a few feet inside, frozen stiff and sweating bullets, afraid to move, said attitude being heartily encouraged by a crouching 18-pound Maine Coon Cat with it's hair standing up and its fangs bared.

Smoke got a treat, and my friend declined ever to visit me again as long as he lived.

K.

OMG & ROFLMAO

Saga overkill for house or conceal...hate to see what sized purse it would require

Maine coon...those are dogs in cat fur suits!! Every one I've ever been around would come when called, sit, roll over & beg for treats & walk on leash in public. Will say they are smarter than many of the small breed dogs