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PeonForHer -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 3:45:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: babylonwhore

People may write in whatever style they wish but I find the whole pronoun thing is silly. It gets annoying after awhile. It kinda of screams of deep insecurity to me or taking a point to funny levels trying to prove it being valid. I personally find a true master would never need to do it in the first place.


Why would it 'scream' anything at all, for anyone? Any more than, say, 'babylonwhore' as a nick 'screams' of a woman who hates herself and sees herself as a loathsome prostitute? I think both views are rubbish. Beneath that, I do think it's important not to get into amateur psychoanalysis.

For feck's sake, we who want to make lives out of our kinks have enough against us from Joe Normal without us getting hung up on his piffling rules of grammar, too.




LizDeluxe -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 4:08:23 PM)

Boorish. Pompous. Arrogant. Just a few thoughts that come to mind when i see that writing style.





PeonForHer -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 4:38:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

Boorish. Pompous. Arrogant. Just a few thoughts that come to mind when i see that writing style.




That 'i' should have been capitalised, Liz, in order to keep with the rules of grammar that have kept this world sane and stable for so many years, and which we'd ditch only if we want to risk Armageddon.

OK, it may have been a typo rather than a policy that you've set up as a sub's thing to do - 'i' in lower case, that is - but I found it DISGUSTING and DEEPLY REPREHENSIBLE to read. I was *entirely* put off BDSM *the very instant* that I saw it. I also lost complete contact with reality and am now searching for a psychotherapist, so badly damaged I've been by seeing it.

Oh come on. This is getting really silly.




dcnovice -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 4:50:25 PM)

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piffling rules of grammar


Careful now, Peon. To an editor, them's fightin' words! [:)]




PeonForHer -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 4:58:46 PM)

[:D] Excellent.




dcnovice -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 4:59:51 PM)

Water pistols at 50 paces?




OsideGirl -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 4:59:54 PM)

Would it be a fight that would be done while not wearing a shirt?




dcnovice -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 5:01:07 PM)

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Would it be a fight that would be done while not wearing a shirt?

In Peon's case, that would be cool.

In mine, not so much. As a public service, I stay fully clad unless I'm actually in some body of water.




PeonForHer -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 5:01:19 PM)

No. A man without a shirt is bad grammar. [:'(]




absolutchocolat -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 5:01:36 PM)

finally, a duel! [sm=popcorn.gif]




Darkfeather -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 5:09:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather


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ORIGINAL: ToyOfRhamnusia


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather


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ORIGINAL: Moonhead



No fucker teaches you to capitalise a word that isn't a proper name in the middle of a sentence unless they're an imbecile.



Wow, thanks for that college level response. You must be new to kink


So, you just got a taste of what newbies think of that practice...

The point is: is this forum a playground for kinksters - or is it public forum where we want newbies to feel welcome?

I am no new kinkster, but I am annoyed when I have to put a translator's cap on in order to read what other people write. Instead "we" and "ours", they write "W/we" and "Ours/ours", and some refer to themselves in plural (like some other royalty!), whereas others completely avoid the use of "I", "me", and "my". It is very annoying to read, and, for a newbie, it raises the question if this is the way they too are supposed to write posts...?

And if you are a Dom/Domme who thinks that it is important for me to constantly be reminded of your status in your personal relationship by capitalizing all words relating to yourself, then my knee-jerk reaction is "what an arrogant ass hole!" Sure, I might modify my opinion on the basis of other reasons, but really, I have no interest in such reminders. Mind you, in my vanilla life, I also have no respect for people's use of titles. I don't care. We are all humans, and all humans are equal. NO one has any rights to be treated with greater respect than others.

I can better accept absolutchocolat's lazy consistency about never using the shift key, but even that is still disrespectful of others, because it makes reading more difficult. And the fact that other people are not very good at writing English is no legitimate excuse for an intelligent person to make it worse. Throwing hizzy fits over this? No, of course not - but the consequences certainly are that it lowers my interest in such a post as it shows to me that the person writing is more concerned about his/her own convenience than about the message being read and well understood by other people. If that's the desired effect, then so be it.

I learned early on in life that communication must aim at being understood by the receiver. Just communicating out into the ether (or cyber space) without any concern for how the communication is going to be received and understood make no sense, but every deviation from what is generally seen as "good English" definitely adds something to the message, and it is not something positive.




And my point, which I seem to have to pound home rather often, is who cares what you think of mine, his, absolutchocolat's, or anyone else's views. Your opinion is meaningless to us. You can simply choose to participate or ignore. To insult just proves how ignorant of human inter-relations you are. You are certainly entitled to what you think of what goes on here, just as the less than eloquent person I refereed to earlier was. But when you insult someone in public, they go defensive at best, angry at worst. Hell, I have seen a LOT of kink in my time, and can point to a fair bit I don't agree with. But would I call anyone out on it, no never. Because its their kink, not mine. I can walk away from whatever discussion they are having, however they are acting. To think I am somehow "entitled" to enforce my opinion on them, is the definition of arrogance.

If you think that was an insult, you need to get out more.


Wow, you are the second person to make be sigh. Did I ever say it was an insult to me? Have you even read my responses in this now 7 page post? My point is, someone may find it insulting. I have already made my views on the subject quite clear, and no matter what is said to me, you included, I would not find insulting.




babylonwhore -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 6:06:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: babylonwhore

People may write in whatever style they wish but I find the whole pronoun thing is silly. It gets annoying after awhile. It kinda of screams of deep insecurity to me or taking a point to funny levels trying to prove it being valid. I personally find a true master would never need to do it in the first place.


Why would it 'scream' anything at all, for anyone? Any more than, say, 'babylonwhore' as a nick 'screams' of a woman who hates herself and sees herself as a loathsome prostitute? I think both views are rubbish. Beneath that, I do think it's important not to get into amateur psychoanalysis.

For feck's sake, we who want to make lives out of our kinks have enough against us from Joe Normal without us getting hung up on his piffling rules of grammar, too.


In plain terms I believe it is stupid looking when I read it.




LadyPact -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 6:08:57 PM)

Kirata, you impressed Me today, and that doesn't happen often. However, I kind of thought I might.





PeonForHer -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 6:21:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: babylonwhore
In plain terms I believe it is stupid looking when I read it.


Thank you for your contribution to this discussion, babylonwhore.




Darkfeather -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 7:30:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

a signed picture of Elmo for some reason...

We know the reason.

I Keep Talking About Sex with You

K.



Does this fall under "Don't ask, don't tell" though, cause Elmo strikes me as a freak just waiting to explode




littlewonder -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/13/2012 11:38:31 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather

Does this fall under "Don't ask, don't tell" though, cause Elmo strikes me as a freak just waiting to explode




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Darkfeather -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/14/2012 1:36:52 AM)

Its always the quiet ones




Moonhead -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/14/2012 5:32:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather
My point is, someone may find it insulting.

Only if they're a halfwit, and frankly, who gives a fuck what people like that think?




LadyPact -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/14/2012 6:06:29 AM)

Heck, I'm one of the few and I wasn't insulted. I think that people sometimes believe such things matter just because I will take the time to address the subject. This is why I have no purpose in insulting anyone during the conversation.

I came to terms a long time ago that, even among kinky people, some of the stuff that I do isn't popular. So what? It doesn't matter a whit to Me and it sure as hell shouldn't matter to any of you. My flipping grocery list for Thanksgiving ranks higher than one of these threads. (Which reminds Me that I need to add sage to the list.)

Some people on the internet make a greater impression on Me than others. Some, I am even lucky enough to get to meet. The masses, their opinions, or whatever else comes across this screen? After five and a half years, is there even anybody on this thread that doesn't know better than that?

This house, My marriage, My dynamic will ALWAYS mean more than this frivolous stuff. I'm supposed to care about the world wide web? Some fucking twit from across the country or the globe. Can you possibly be so self absorbed that you think your opinion matters on this one, stupid, little thing? God, I would hope not. If it does, you may need to look at that and why people who aren't in your physical world matter so much.

If you (general you) are even invested in this, walk the fuck away. If it really matters to you, please do something else. We will.




OsideGirl -> RE: Capitalization of personal pronouns (11/14/2012 8:15:05 AM)

I don't find what you do bothersome LP. If you were demanding that the rest of us follow what you're doing when addressing....then I'd have a problem.




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