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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Heck, I'm one of the few and I wasn't insulted. I think that people sometimes believe such things matter just because I will take the time to address the subject. This is why I have no purpose in insulting anyone during the conversation.

I came to terms a long time ago that, even among kinky people, some of the stuff that I do isn't popular. So what? It doesn't matter a whit to Me and it sure as hell shouldn't matter to any of you. My flipping grocery list for Thanksgiving ranks higher than one of these threads. (Which reminds Me that I need to add sage to the list.)

Some people on the internet make a greater impression on Me than others. Some, I am even lucky enough to get to meet. The masses, their opinions, or whatever else comes across this screen? After five and a half years, is there even anybody on this thread that doesn't know better than that?

This house, My marriage, My dynamic will ALWAYS mean more than this frivolous stuff. I'm supposed to care about the world wide web? Some fucking twit from across the country or the globe. Can you possibly be so self absorbed that you think your opinion matters on this one, stupid, little thing? God, I would hope not. If it does, you may need to look at that and why people who aren't in your physical world matter so much.

If you (general you) are even invested in this, walk the fuck away. If it really matters to you, please do something else. We will.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather
My point is, someone may find it insulting.

Only if they're a halfwit, and frankly, who gives a fuck what people like that think?

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Heck, I'm one of the few and I wasn't insulted. I think that people sometimes believe such things matter just because I will take the time to address the subject. This is why I have no purpose in insulting anyone during the conversation.

I came to terms a long time ago that, even among kinky people, some of the stuff that I do isn't popular. So what? It doesn't matter a whit to Me and it sure as hell shouldn't matter to any of you. My flipping grocery list for Thanksgiving ranks higher than one of these threads. (Which reminds Me that I need to add sage to the list.)

Some people on the internet make a greater impression on Me than others. Some, I am even lucky enough to get to meet. The masses, their opinions, or whatever else comes across this screen? After five and a half years, is there even anybody on this thread that doesn't know better than that?

This house, My marriage, My dynamic will ALWAYS mean more than this frivolous stuff. I'm supposed to care about the world wide web? Some fucking twit from across the country or the globe. Can you possibly be so self absorbed that you think your opinion matters on this one, stupid, little thing? God, I would hope not. If it does, you may need to look at that and why people who aren't in your physical world matter so much.

If you (general you) are even invested in this, walk the fuck away. If it really matters to you, please do something else. We will.

This isn't addressed to you specifically, but food for thought for the masses of regulars on collarchat (or any forum for that matter). When you take the attitude of not carrying what some twit from across the country thinks about you, the perception of you, of this (for lack of a better word) "online community" here on the message boards, even extending to things like the way newbies are treated ("well they should just grow a pair, if they ask a stupid question and can't take it, this is the Internet after all") - then the collective "we" are accepting that this 'community' will attract what it broadcasts.

And what does it broadcast then?

Mixed signals to the wannabe subs that we tell "no protocol, this is a message board! No, I am not your Mistress! No, we are not doing cyber in here!"

But the greater point of this post is to address the thought that I hear a lot here, "I don't give a crap what strangers think of what I say or do and if they are offended well that's their problem"- it's such a prevalent thought on this message board that it's created a bad signal to noise ration, a sour attitude overall and a lack of new posters, IMHO.

And if you say, "Well if you don't like it, leave" - sadly, that's the problem. I think a lot of people have, when in reality, if everyone collectively said, "I do care what people think, I do give two shits about what perception they get of me as I represent not only ME, but I represent THE NEXT kinkster they meet" then we'd have a more positive group in general.

Personally I don't take the stance that I am free to behave like a total asshole in the name of protecting my kinks and right to be kinky despite who I might offend (or even make uncomfortable or confused) because I would like people - in general - to have a positive attitude and perception about kinky people.

Akasha

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
This isn't addressed to you specifically, but food for thought for the masses of regulars on collarchat (or any forum for that matter). When you take the attitude of not carrying what some twit from across the country thinks about you, the perception of you, of this (for lack of a better word) "online community" here on the message boards, even extending to things like the way newbies are treated ("well they should just grow a pair, if they ask a stupid question and can't take it, this is the Internet after all") - then the collective "we" are accepting that this 'community' will attract what it broadcasts.

And what does it broadcast then?

Mixed signals to the wannabe subs that we tell "no protocol, this is a message board! No, I am not your Mistress! No, we are not doing cyber in here!"

But the greater point of this post is to address the thought that I hear a lot here, "I don't give a crap what strangers think of what I say or do and if they are offended well that's their problem"- it's such a prevalent thought on this message board that it's created a bad signal to noise ration, a sour attitude overall and a lack of new posters, IMHO.

And if you say, "Well if you don't like it, leave" - sadly, that's the problem. I think a lot of people have, when in reality, if everyone collectively said, "I do care what people think, I do give two shits about what perception they get of me as I represent not only ME, but I represent THE NEXT kinkster they meet" then we'd have a more positive group in general.

Personally I don't take the stance that I am free to behave like a total asshole in the name of protecting my kinks and right to be kinky despite who I might offend (or even make uncomfortable or confused) because I would like people - in general - to have a positive attitude and perception about kinky people.

Akasha

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: AAkasha
This isn't addressed to you specifically, but food for thought for the masses of regulars on collarchat (or any forum for that matter). When you take the attitude of not carrying what some twit from across the country thinks about you, the perception of you, of this (for lack of a better word) "online community" here on the message boards, even extending to things like the way newbies are treated ("well they should just grow a pair, if they ask a stupid question and can't take it, this is the Internet after all") - then the collective "we" are accepting that this 'community' will attract what it broadcasts.

And what does it broadcast then?

Mixed signals to the wannabe subs that we tell "no protocol, this is a message board! No, I am not your Mistress! No, we are not doing cyber in here!"

But the greater point of this post is to address the thought that I hear a lot here, "I don't give a crap what strangers think of what I say or do and if they are offended well that's their problem"- it's such a prevalent thought on this message board that it's created a bad signal to noise ration, a sour attitude overall and a lack of new posters, IMHO.

And if you say, "Well if you don't like it, leave" - sadly, that's the problem. I think a lot of people have, when in reality, if everyone collectively said, "I do care what people think, I do give two shits about what perception they get of me as I represent not only ME, but I represent THE NEXT kinkster they meet" then we'd have a more positive group in general.

Personally I don't take the stance that I am free to behave like a total asshole in the name of protecting my kinks and right to be kinky despite who I might offend (or even make uncomfortable or confused) because I would like people - in general - to have a positive attitude and perception about kinky people.

Akasha

Dude, stop trying to turn ambivalence into a dirty word. There's not a thing that I say here, or how I type it, that matters.

Fuck! Do you really spend your time thinking about somebody that you don't even know who might be *so* offended by what you say that, holy shit! They won't be kinky anymore! Christ, Dude, if it really is like that out there, instead of suggesting that the kinky person who comes here asking how to get their vanilla spouse involved, instead of promoting your own website, or suggesting the book "When Someone You Love is Kinky," shit, just direct them to one of My post with that capitol M out there. They will be so affronted that they will never have a kinky thought again.

<Hold on while I puke for a second.>

When in the flying fuck did we EVER get to this fucking point that the, oh, so precious newbie is so fragile that they can't handle witnessing power exchange? Good God! We'd better NEVER send them to a fucking munch, or HEAVEN FUCKING FORBID suggest that they see what happens at a dungeon.

Christ, man, I don't even do this in the vanilla world. The fact that you do, or even might think of it, well, chamelions are pretty to look at when they change to suit their surroundings. Is this really what you present? Does that website and the paid subsdcribers have that much a hold of your short hairs that you forgot what it was like to grow a pair? I don't ever want to be castrated in that fashion or be some membership's gelding.

What message does it send? It says that some of us have the strength to be exactly who we are rather than what our 'readers' want us to be. Fuck! Are we only Dominant when it pleases popular opinion? I don't do that and neither should you. I'm actually kind of disappointed that you even take that stance.

I know you don't get it, but as a leather woman, (which ain't the leatheratti or fetishist type, by the way) and as much as I talk about education, that never comes before My own household. The husband who stands beside Me and the boy who kneels at My feet are ALWAYS first. What the fuck is wrong with you that you don't feel the same way?

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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather
I believe this is trying to be politically correct. Something many in all aspects of life are trying to move towards... But I am old school, in that I don't have to change myself to make you more comfortable. You either like me or not. If we start candy-coating our kinks, just to keep from "scaring" or "offending" the masses, what will they learn. Personally, I think the average person is a lot more resilient than these p.c. people give em. Hell, if 2 girls one cup, or blue waffle can survive in the internet culture this long, I seriously doubt talk of leather or pronouns will scare em away

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: Darkfeather
I believe this is trying to be politically correct. Something many in all aspects of life are trying to move towards... But I am old school, in that I don't have to change myself to make you more comfortable. You either like me or not. If we start candy-coating our kinks, just to keep from "scaring" or "offending" the masses, what will they learn. Personally, I think the average person is a lot more resilient than these p.c. people give em. Hell, if 2 girls one cup, or blue waffle can survive in the internet culture this long, I seriously doubt talk of leather or pronouns will scare em away

Wow, not only do you revel in calling people names, you don't care what they feel about it afterwards. You must be a laugh-riot at parties.

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Actually, it was pointing out your disinterest in adhering to standards you're giving other people a hard time for not bothering with.
If you have a problem with other people "insulting" you, don't bandy backhanded disses about yourself.