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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 9:58:36 AM   
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I could be wrong, which I said I could be, but I'm pretty sure it's Illegal to fire someone for voting for who they wanted as president. Immoral? Absolutely!

Republicans are the first ones to talk about rights and blah blah blah, but when someone utilizes their right to vote, it makes them a slut, and gets them fired. Hypocrisy at it's finest.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:02:11 AM   
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Not taking any sides, just sharing a post from a friend...





Thank you, Kana! I was trying to find that same information for the CEO of Applebees but I just couldn't.

Papa John's will do!!

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:05:50 AM   
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I could be wrong, which I said I could be, but I'm pretty sure it's Illegal to fire someone for voting for who they wanted as president. Immoral? Absolutely!

Republicans are the first ones to talk about rights and blah blah blah, but when someone utilizes their right to vote, it makes them a slut, and gets them fired. Hypocrisy at it's finest.


Great post....thanks for schooling the needy.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:13:59 AM   
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Duh, companies have to make a profit & if the gov (obama & the dems) make it more difficult, then they have to go up on their prices & cut costs. So now you are going to see hundreds of thousands of employees perhaps millions eventually who aren't even allowed to be fulltime employees any more. This is why we keep teling you that democrats don't create jobs, they stifle them.

You people are so gullible that you don't even realize that corporations don't pay corporate taxes. The consumer does. So we not only pay income taxes (well 53% do anyway) we also have to pay the corporate taxes.




Pizza delivery and wallmart checkers are not examples of jobs. I live in San Francisco where if you make less than $75,000 a year you are poor, where houses in shitty neighborhoods cost $600,000 dollars and we create the companies that employ the likes of you.

How many companies have you owned? I am somewhere around five. I wish the electoral college only assigned votrs to states that pay more taxes than the get money from the government. Most red states would no.longer be eligable to vote, lol!

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:17:09 AM   
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Here's my problem --- The CEOs and Presidents of these companies live in Muli-Million Dollar Houses. They are firing people because it'll take them another month to get that nice and shiny car, or that 5th house for that 2nd cousin.

To sit here and say "Well, they need to cut costs!!!" is bullshit!



Interesting. You say that as if you actually KNOW that.


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/11/09/1173181/applebees-ceo-obamacare/?mobile=nc

News freakin' Flash --- I grew up, and spent most on my life on Long Island with a stint in London. I spent my whole life around these people. Hell, I AM one of these people. Don't sit here and act like you know how this works. I've seen both sides of the coin. I've been with the filthy rich, and I've been with those less fortunate, so I know how both sides live.


For all you know I may actually know exactly how "this works".


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You may not have a clue, living in North Carolina, but I do. I've been in both positions, and I can tell you they don't "HAVE" to cut back anything.


You may guess, you may assume. BUT you know no such thing. You're merely projecting my dear.



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Firing people for voting for Obama? Not only morally wrong, but I'm fairly certain it's illegal.


One could argue the case that firing due to Obama being reelected is but anecdotal to the continued economic policies and downward trend being exhibited.

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A Hiring Freeze? Both stupid and illogical.


Hardly. If such is always stupid and illogical then what of government? It's done so on numerous occasions.

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I am going to be counting the days until they'll have to back down from that simply because they aren't willing to give hours to employees, but they aren't willing to hire new people? I may use Vagina Logic but that seems pretty counter productive to me when people are quitting left and right because they are getting their hours cut!

This is the CEO of a huge company like that throwing a tantrum because he doesn't want to pay the same rates as the rest of society.



Vagina Logic? Cute I like that. Best you stay right there





As Kana's picture so bluntly pointed out -- The CEO of Papa Johns lives in a CASTLE with a 22 car garage, private golf course and late... but he's cutting back in employee's hours because he can't "afford" an additional 11-14 cents per pizza. He could raise the price by 25 cents a pizza, and most customers wouldn't even blink AND he'd make a profit. He'd rather cut hours and screw over people who are working hard and voted FOR Obama BECAUSE of people like him.


Doesn't make it any less wrong, and possibly illegal.

Yes. It's done if people no longer need positions filled. When you're cutting hours, AND refusing to take on new people, you're going to have to cut actual business hours, and eventually close down all together. People are going to leave with their hours getting cut, and with the company no longer hiring, you're going to have less and less people working, and no new bodies to take their place.

You seriously think that's not stupid and illogical? Where I come from is where sky is really purple but it only looks blue because of the sun reflecting off of the water molecules in the air. Where you're from, it's purple but it only looks blue from that wealthy CEO ball sweat you seem to take pleasure in licking up.

It's astounding how many people are so willing to turn a blind eye to logic so they can remain ever faithful to a party when common sense dictates that something doesn't add up.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:19:52 AM   
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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:30:36 AM   
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Duh, companies have to make a profit & if the gov (obama & the dems) make it more difficult, then they have to go up on their prices & cut costs. So now you are going to see hundreds of thousands of employees perhaps millions eventually who aren't even allowed to be fulltime employees any more. This is why we keep teling you that democrats don't create jobs, they stifle them.

You people are so gullible that you don't even realize that corporations don't pay corporate taxes. The consumer does. So we not only pay income taxes (well 53% do anyway) we also have to pay the corporate taxes.




Pizza delivery and wallmart checkers are not examples of jobs. I live in San Francisco where if you make less than $75,000 a year you are poor, where houses in shitty neighborhoods cost $600,000 dollars and we create the companies that employ the likes of you.

How many companies have you owned? I am somewhere around five. I wish the electoral college only assigned votrs to states that pay more taxes than the get money from the government. Most red states would no.longer be eligable to vote, lol!


I got into an argument with someone who CLAIMED to be in the %1 (Frankly, I call BS) Who said that the %99 are "Lazy Slugs" and all of them need to "Go out and get a job" and they all "Leech off the government". What many people don't realize is that some people HAVE crap jobs, and try to work their way up but they get... forgive the term... cock blocked at every possible chance.

There are people out there that ARE unemployed. When Master was unemployed, he was "Too qualified" for crap jobs, but good jobs looked over Master for someone that they felt was a better fit until he found a company that was desperate to hire bodies. This is the same company that tried to make Master work through Hurricane Sandy.. When Maryland was in a State of Emergency, and everyone who was not considered a "necessary" person needed to be home.
The BS they tried to feed Master? "We sell food so that makes us necessary to stay open".

I HATE big companies. I DESPISE them. They were more than happy to put my Master in danger in the middle of a hurricane without a second thought and all they care about is lining their fat greedy pockets.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:54:45 AM   
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May you get what you want , and want what you get. No matter how many times the story was told that Obamacare was going to kill small business, people just ignore it. Now that business has to make adjustments to stay in business, everyone says , your doing it out of spite. What a joke. Wake up to reality and listen to what they have been saying for two years. Quit complaining about what these guys need to do because they have warned and warned that these steps were going to take place in order for them to keep going. Now the consequences are gonna be felt and hopefully we as a nation can someone withstand them or fall like Greece and their massive government controlled society.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 10:58:44 AM   
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From what i have seen of the vote-for-Obama-get-fired thing.. its the 1%ers of business, the huge corps, not the majority of businesses that are saying this.. they are the ones with the big workforces and if they chop a few jobs, they still have the other minions to do the work..

And really, if Obama was really on the working man/womans side, there never would be a loophole to allow businesses to escape the costs for any employees under 30 hours/week.. The politicians have loopholes in all their legislation cuz they want to appear to do what voters want without actually doing as much as voters think they are, and giving their party donators the loopholes they need to comply but still not be affected by the higher costs..

Why should it not be for everyone, and the cost for part-time be the same (prorated?) as for full-time, so there is no company benefit to hire part-timers over full-timers????

BTW, I see the decline of the middle class as being in great part due to the expansion of part-time workers (cuz they cost so much less) at the expense of full-time jobs.. so household income drops cuz its hard to find 2 part-time jobs that time & money wise equal what one full-time job would pay..

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 11:29:03 AM   
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Nobody who works a job that can be made part time is "middle class".

The destruction of the unions by forcing high paying union manufacuring jobs overseas was the start od the destuction of the middle class.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 11:45:13 AM   
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Nobody who works a job that can be made part time is "middle class".

The destruction of the unions by forcing high paying union manufacuring jobs overseas was the start od the destuction of the middle class.


PREACH!

Don't get ME started on how unbridled outsourcing has damn near decimated this country.


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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 11:53:07 AM   
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Time for an armed revolution......oh wait, thats right,........americans have neither the brains nor the courage and most can't afford a gun.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 11:54:36 AM   
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Time for an armed revolution......oh wait, thats right,........americans have neither the brains nor the courage and most can't afford a gun.


you had me at hello.


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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 11:57:02 AM   
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Nobody who works a job that can be made part time is "middle class".

The destruction of the unions by forcing high paying union manufacuring jobs overseas was the start od the destuction of the middle class.

sure, unions were part of the reason.. unions at one time were good but not any longer, imo..

but the major reason for part-time jobs is to save money over the cost of full-time..

I disagree, 1 full-time job at $40k/yr has been basically split into 2 part-time jobs at $20 (or less)/year.. a couple having full-time jobs each at $40k/year = $80k/household.. that to me is middleclass in most parts of the US.. but of course not it places like SoCal, SanFran or NY.. When household income of $200 or $250k is considered "rich" (feds definition?), then household income of $80/yr is middleclass, imo Not everyone lives in SanFran with the high costs/wages/taxes/housing there..

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 11:58:37 AM   
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We may be looking at a permanent depression.



Only if you keep posting this drivel.

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 12:02:11 PM   
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PREACH!

Don't get ME started on how unbridled outsourcing has damn near decimated this country.


ahhh, yes.. and yet Obama has signed several new free trade deals in his first 4 years and is trying to get one with China.. So it doesnt matter who you voted for (R or D), either way you voted for outsourcing..

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 12:07:50 PM   
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PREACH!

Don't get ME started on how unbridled outsourcing has damn near decimated this country.


ahhh, yes.. and yet Obama has signed several new free trade deals in his first 4 years and is trying to get one with China.. So it doesnt matter who you voted for (R or D), either way you voted for outsourcing..


The horses have been out of the barn so long when it comes to outsourcing, these last free trade deals aren't a big issue.

I guess you have not heard about ALL the efforts President Obama has done to encourage a manufacturing base in the United States?

tj/Goggle is your friend, but here is one link out of thousands.

President Obama speaks on promoting American manufacturing and exporting

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 12:10:04 PM   
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Not taking any sides, just sharing a post from a friend...






Again, those of you against the healthcare program, just please explain to me why supporting someone who has a 40,000 sq ft home is more important than giving American people access to affordable healthcare? Just how does that logic work, exactly? (I suspect it works the same as Republican election math).

Just to put this in perspective, Papa John's makes 1.4 BILLION in revenue annually. And the CEO of Papa John's estimates the healthcare costs will add $5-8 million in expenses. Running the math means that Papa John's, after paying for healthcare, will turn a 4.7% profit in an industry that has profit margins in the 3-6% range (restaurants are a traditionally low margin business). 4.7% profit in this industry is a perfectly acceptable profit.

Being a business person in this country means being able to turn a reasonable profit while still paying employees fair wages and paying one's taxes. Papa John's is doing this, and would be doing this even after paying for healthcare. So what gives, here? Is it our fault that he is probably over-leveraged on his house?? wtf

What happened to "personal responsibility" for this idiot who clearly spent too much on his living space. Why is that our collective problem, now??


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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 12:17:02 PM   
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PREACH!

Don't get ME started on how unbridled outsourcing has damn near decimated this country.


ahhh, yes.. and yet Obama has signed several new free trade deals in his first 4 years and is trying to get one with China.. So it doesnt matter who you voted for (R or D), either way you voted for outsourcing..


The horses have been out of the barn so long when it comes to outsourcing, these last free trade deals aren't a big issue.

I guess you have not heard about what President Obama has done to encourage a manufacturing base in the United States?


arent you one of the anti-free trader set??? that equals free trade deals with outsourced jobs and were slamming the Rs for NAFTA? wow, now when faced with what Obama is doing re free trade, you say its no big deal.. that is the funniest thing i have heard today..

yeah, I heard about Soylandra and the jobs created there and with other such encouraged mfg base companies.. btw, its machines that are getting most jobs, imo.. and those machines are getting smarter and smarter.. now they can even diagnose a person's illness better than a Doctor can..

machines that want your job
http://money.msn.com/investing/12-machines-that-want-your-job
http://money.msn.com/investing/11-more-machines-that-want-your-job

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RE: How low will major companies go? - 11/11/2012 12:22:46 PM   
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Let me break this down to you, AGAIN.

America has engaged in unbridled outsourcing job practices for over 30 years.


Trying to pin this crap on President Obama, is just not going to fly with me.

Hundreds of companies have moved their manufacturing/production base/and millions of non-manufacturing jobs overseas also.
They have been outsourcing MILLIONS of both white collar and blue collar jobs overseas, for the last 30 years.


The horse is ALREADY out of the barn, so NO I am not upset with what President Obama is doing, BECAUSE he constantly talks about the need to bring manufacturing back to the United States.

President Obama has literally NOTHING to do with policies that proceeded him.

Glad I can make you laugh, cause your little personal jabs/comments directed at me, never cease to amuse me.


I don't blame President Obama for what has been going on for over 30 years.


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